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Gothsheep
Apr 22, 2010
Well, I can confirm that the mod to play the Soulstorm campaign with Ultimate Apocalypse works. I can't say whether the persistent bases mod works though, because it also seems like the Normal AI in UA is much, much harder than the Hard difficultly in DC, and the enemy had built up an unstoppable army by the time I first found them on the map.

EDIT: Also can't confirm if bases persist between attacks because The Ultimate Apocalypse in Campaign mod CTDs whenever I win. Guess I'll try again with Titanium Wars sometime later.

Gothsheep fucked around with this message at 09:35 on Oct 22, 2020

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Veloxyll
May 3, 2011

Fuck you say?!

NGDBSS posted:

Maxim 56: Infantry exists to paint targets for people with real guns.
Maxim 57: Artillery exists to launch large chunks of budget at an enemy it cannot actually see.

In the Grimdark future of the 41st Millenium, there is no budget, only war.

Astroclassicist
Aug 21, 2015

Veloxyll posted:

In the Grimdark future of the 41st Millenium, there is no budget, only war.

That's where you're wrong, citizen: https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Rocks_Are_Not_Free!

Deep Dish Fuckfest
Sep 6, 2006

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Veloxyll posted:

In the Grimdark future of the 41st Millenium, there is no budget, only war.

The Adeptus Administratum vehemently disagrees. As do the planetary governors paying tithes to the Imperium.

The Door Frame
Dec 5, 2011

I don't know man everytime I go to the gym here there are like two huge dudes with raging high and tights snorting Nitro-tech off of each other's rock hard abs.
Artillery is the king of battle, and if properly supported, it can devastate an enemy. I love that it took the AI a long time to grasp the "supported" part of that sentence. So many tanks brought down because they couldn't even bother to bring in scouts or guardsmen...

Also, mines have a great use with artillery. Build a couple of minefields, attack ground just ahead, and just behind the minefields, and it'll quagmire any sized attack that isn't supported by vehicles. It's pretty funny to watch their entire army break morale and be unable to escape I learned this from the ultra basilisks in Dark Crusade, on the IG base assault. I had my entire army destroyed before I got past the bridge because they couldn't stand up without exploding

BlazetheInferno
Jun 6, 2015
Meanwhile, I'm just over here playing AI skirmishes with a bunch of extra races added through the Unification mod for Soulstorm.

Yesterday I learned the Armageddon Steel Legion mod has goddamn Yarrick as a unit. Though he's just called "Legendary Commissar", but you can see the Storm Bolter, the bionic eye and, oh yeah, the big fuckoff Power Klaw.

IMJack
Apr 16, 2003

Royalty is a continuous ripping and tearing motion.


Fun Shoe

Deep Dish Fuckfest posted:

The Adeptus Administratum vehemently disagrees. As do the planetary governors paying tithes to the Imperium.

There is only one resource the Imperium has no shortage of, and that is human lives.

Deep Dish Fuckfest
Sep 6, 2006

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That, and enemies.

Gothsheep
Apr 22, 2010

Deep Dish Fuckfest posted:

That, and enemies.

Okay, I can confirm that the Soulstorm campaign with Ultimate Apocalypse is pretty rad when the game doesn't crash after every mission.

Hunt11
Jul 24, 2013

Grimey Drawer
So does anyone here know how to fix the text size for dark crusade? All the solutions only apply to Soulstorm but don't seem to be replicable for the earlier game.

Mokinokaro
Sep 11, 2001

At the end of everything, hold onto anything



Fun Shoe

Hunt11 posted:

So does anyone here know how to fix the text size for dark crusade? All the solutions only apply to Soulstorm but don't seem to be replicable for the earlier game.

Few options I've found:
https://steamcommunity.com/app/4570/discussions/0/535150948596635225/

https://steamcommunity.com/app/9450/discussions/0/617335934142534294/ Hokunin's fix here should work (not the file, just the directions)

Hunt11
Jul 24, 2013

Grimey Drawer

I will try and see if the first approach works but I tried Hokunin and Dark Crusade just doesn't have the files necessary for the suggested changes.

Gothsheep
Apr 22, 2010
That reminds me. RoboKy, I tried replaying DoW and Winter Assault, and my screen resolution is hosed to the point where my minimap is completely screwed up and not displaying half of it in my screen. You don't seem to have that problem. What did you do to make the game work on electric computers?

TheLastRoboKy
May 2, 2009

Finishing the game with everyone else's continues

Gothsheep posted:

That reminds me. RoboKy, I tried replaying DoW and Winter Assault, and my screen resolution is hosed to the point where my minimap is completely screwed up and not displaying half of it in my screen. You don't seem to have that problem. What did you do to make the game work on electric computers?

Scroll down a little on this:

https://steamcommunity.com/app/4570/discussions/0/810919056975040474

It takes a small amount of messing about but once you get it, so long as you don't go into the video settings again afterwards it should stay the way I got it.

Lord_Magmar
Feb 24, 2015

"Welcome to pound town, Slifer slacker!"


To be honest, I actually kind of like Soulstorm. The flying vehicles are dumb as hell and kind of broken, but the actual campaign map is pretty neat, I like that it's nearly every faction, although the fact that one of the missing factions is Tyranids is real garbage, especially with how little I like the portrayal of playing as the Tyranids in Dawn of War 2.

Angry Lobster
May 16, 2011

Served with honor
and some clarified butter.

Lord_Magmar posted:

To be honest, I actually kind of like Soulstorm. The flying vehicles are dumb as hell and kind of broken, but the actual campaign map is pretty neat, I like that it's nearly every faction, although the fact that one of the missing factions is Tyranids is real garbage, especially with how little I like the portrayal of playing as the Tyranids in Dawn of War 2.

Soulstorm is dumb as hell however it can be enjoyable if you don't take it seriously.

anilEhilated
Feb 17, 2014

But I say fuck the rain.

Grimey Drawer

Angry Lobster posted:

Soulstorm is dumb as hell however it can be enjoyable if you don't take it seriously.
I genuinely enjoy how stupid the commander banter is.

Cythereal
Nov 8, 2009

I love the potoo,
and the potoo loves you.

anilEhilated posted:

I genuinely enjoy how stupid the commander banter is.

They never did fix the bug where in the Chaos stronghold, the Eldar farseer pops up with the Imperial Guard general's lines.

BlazetheInferno
Jun 6, 2015

anilEhilated posted:

I genuinely enjoy how stupid the commander banter is.

One of the many problems with Soulstorm is honestly the fact that there's no actual Commander Banter. They don't talk to each other like they do in Dark Crusade.

I enjoy Soulstorm, but it's absolutely a huge step down from Dark Crusade in a lot of ways.

Deep Dish Fuckfest
Sep 6, 2006

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I hate whoever the gently caress posted that Ci-Ci-Ciaphas Cain, Hero of the Imperium! video earlier in the thread because that stupid song has been stuck in my head all afternoon.

Angry Lobster
May 16, 2011

Served with honor
and some clarified butter.

BlazetheInferno posted:

One of the many problems with Soulstorm is honestly the fact that there's no actual Commander Banter. They don't talk to each other like they do in Dark Crusade.

I enjoy Soulstorm, but it's absolutely a huge step down from Dark Crusade in a lot of ways.

You don't need commander banter when you can enjoy Lord Firaevus Carron's monologues.

Technowolf
Nov 4, 2009




Angry Lobster posted:

You don't need commander banter when you can enjoy Lord Firaevus Carron's monologues.

METAL! *snnnnnnrrrrrkkkt* BOXES!

Gothsheep
Apr 22, 2010
The core gameplay loop of Soulstorm is still Dawn of War, so it's still going to be fun. I've been doing an IG playthrough with Ultimate Apocalypse and the persistent bases mod, and once I got the damned things to work, it's been good fun. Even things like the incredibly buggy air units are still funny enough to increase enjoyment. Use a couple mods to fix its problems and the core game is still great.

TheLastRoboKy
May 2, 2009

Finishing the game with everyone else's continues
New Episode! Episode 5! My Inquisitor is Kicking Me Out of my Planetary Defense Effort But I Still Love Him!

In this episode an alien criticizes our smell but we criticize their entire cultural history up to this point and kill them a lot.

Cooked Auto
Aug 4, 2007

Puhleeaazee, pretty much everything can be traced back to the Eldar in one form another. They're elves after all.

Also playing in a Wrath & Glory campaign and we ran into Eldar Rangers. There was smugness. So much smugness.

Gothsheep
Apr 22, 2010
They really do a lot in the in-engine cutscenes with just moving dolls around and good voice acting. I'm always really fond of this mission's intro.

"I must wonder if your actions on Cyrene have affected your judgement."

*Gabriel spins 180 degrees to face Tosh*

"Perhaps that was...a poor choice of words."

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Lotsa kink-shaming of the Eldar going on there at the start...

Veloxyll
May 3, 2011

Fuck you say?!

Deep Dish Fuckfest posted:

Lotsa kink-shaming of the Eldar going on there at the start...

They know what they did

FoolyCharged
Oct 11, 2012

Cheating at a raffle? I sentence you to 1 year in jail! No! Two years! Three! Four! Five years! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah!
Somebody call for an ant?

Veloxyll posted:

They know what they did

Everything in sight?

TheLastRoboKy
May 2, 2009

Finishing the game with everyone else's continues

Veloxyll posted:

They know what they did


FoolyCharged posted:

Everything in sight?

It's quicker to list what they didn't do:

1) Stop.

Lord_Magmar
Feb 24, 2015

"Welcome to pound town, Slifer slacker!"


TheLastRoboKy posted:

It's quicker to list what they didn't do:

1) Stop.

Not true, the Craftworld and Exodite Eldar both stopped, admittedly after they created a chaos god, it’s just the Dark Eldar who should be kink shamed.

cokerpilot
Apr 23, 2010

Battle Brothers! Stop coming to meetings drunk and trying to adopt Tevery Best!

Lord General! Stop standing on the table and making up stupid operation names!

Emperor, why do I put up with these people?
It's funny as much as Coolguye rags on the Eldar about how they deserve it and it's all thier fualt. Well a whole lot of Eldar actully 100% agree with him on that.

White Coke
May 29, 2015

cokerpilot posted:

It's funny as much as Coolguye rags on the Eldar about how they deserve it and it's all thier fualt. Well a whole lot of Eldar actully 100% agree with him on that.

"We hosed up and destroyed our galactic empire because our cruelty and decadence created a god of depravity, but once enough of us die we're going to make a new god (intentionally this time) to kill the other new god we made that killed all our other gods, and then we're going to re-establish our galactic empire."

Lord_Magmar
Feb 24, 2015

"Welcome to pound town, Slifer slacker!"


White Coke posted:

"We hosed up and destroyed our galactic empire because our cruelty and decadence created a god of depravity, but once enough of us die we're going to make a new god (intentionally this time) to kill the other new god we made that killed all our other gods, and then we're going to re-establish our galactic empire."

Except until they did in fact make that god they assumed doing so would require literally ever living Eldar Soul. Many of them were extremely willing to hold out as long as they could to create just a few more Eldar (and kill demons/monkeigh/whatever) and then fully accepting that their entire race will die defying and slaying Slaanesh.

Of course their new god does exist in the lore now, and it united the Eldar and Dark Eldar and Harlequins and Exodites under one banner, which is kind of dumb.

Ibblebibble
Nov 12, 2013

Very late to the "Nids vs everything" discussion but the Nids have tangled with Chaos Demons before and it's always gone poorly for the demons because nids dont bleed, get horny, plan much or adapt away all diseases. Also, Shadow in the Warp effect fucks up Chaos something bad.

Gothsheep
Apr 22, 2010
I always did like the fact that, what we think of as 'normal Eldar' in the modern 40K universe, are actually the Eldar's Amish.

TheLastRoboKy
May 2, 2009

Finishing the game with everyone else's continues

Lord_Magmar posted:

Not true, the Craftworld and Exodite Eldar both stopped, admittedly after they created a chaos god, it’s just the Dark Eldar who should be kink shamed.

That was an Eldar lover trap you have fallen into it and now I tear off my mask revealing I am Ahriman and I seek the Black Library I admit this plan has a lot of flaws in it and makes a lot of assumptions but-


cokerpilot posted:

It's funny as much as Coolguye rags on the Eldar about how they deserve it and it's all thier fualt. Well a whole lot of Eldar actully 100% agree with him on that.

"See? I'm right" Coolguye cries from the shower where he has been sobbing for an hour because agreeing with an Eldar disgusts him.

Lord_Magmar
Feb 24, 2015

"Welcome to pound town, Slifer slacker!"


Ibblebibble posted:

Very late to the "Nids vs everything" discussion but the Nids have tangled with Chaos Demons before and it's always gone poorly for the demons because nids dont bleed, get horny, plan much or adapt away all diseases. Also, Shadow in the Warp effect fucks up Chaos something bad.

Oh yeah, the only times there's been pitched battles between Nids and Chaos Demons are when the planet itself is falling into a giant warp vortex/storm, because otherwise the lesser Demons literally cease to exist in the real space because the Shadow in the Warp cuts them from the warp connection that sustains their incursions. Or small enough forces that the Shadow doesn't matter.

Relatedly, and I think it even comes up in Dawn of War 2, you cannot navigate the warp during a Tyranid invasion with any amount of safety because the Shadow blinds the Astropaths, making all but the strongest completely incapable of navigating the warp because they straight up can no longer seen the Astronomicon.

Cooked Auto
Aug 4, 2007

Lord_Magmar posted:

Oh yeah, the only times there's been pitched battles between Nids and Chaos Demons are when the planet itself is falling into a giant warp vortex/storm, because otherwise the lesser Demons literally cease to exist in the real space because the Shadow in the Warp cuts them from the warp connection that sustains their incursions. Or small enough forces that the Shadow doesn't matter.

Even if they've become common enough for them to evolve a splinter hive fleet that specialises in dealing with daemons.

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ZoninSilver
May 30, 2011
There are more memorable lines throughout DoW, but I will always adore the thick, thick sarcasm of Gabriel finding the Chaos Shrine in this mission :allears:

Gothsheep posted:

They really do a lot in the in-engine cutscenes with just moving dolls around and good voice acting. I'm always really fond of this mission's intro.

"I must wonder if your actions on Cyrene have affected your judgement."

*Gabriel spins 180 degrees to face Tosh*

"Perhaps that was...a poor choice of words."

I didn't really catch that back when I first played it, but yeah, this.

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