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eke out posted:i assume his message to allison is "with your key, i could effortlessly murder these demiurges, rather than have a long war where lots of people die" but... yeah when your ultimate goal is cosmic murder it's not a very good argument I think the calculus here is that he could kill everyone alive and do it quickly, or kill them in a slow and painful campaign along with everyone else born in the meantime.
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YaketySass posted:I think the calculus here is that he could kill everyone alive and do it quickly, or kill them in a slow and painful campaign along with everyone else born in the meantime.
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# ? Oct 24, 2020 06:53 |
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*Obligatory Jagganoth is Thanos meme*
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# ? Oct 24, 2020 07:05 |
Thanos killed the universe to impress a disinterested crush. Noble Jagganoth wishes to kill the omniverse to end suffering in all of its myriad and vile forms.
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# ? Oct 24, 2020 07:12 |
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I have a feeling Allison is going to lose her key.
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# ? Oct 24, 2020 07:51 |
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skaianDestiny posted:I have a feeling Allison is going to lose her key.
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# ? Oct 24, 2020 07:53 |
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Holy poo poo Jagganoth is this dude: https://killsixbilliondemons.fandom.com/wiki/The_Tale_of_Yaunquote:Yaun hid. The men roamed about the village, looking for him, two at a time, their feet treading down the soft earth of the smouldering village. Each footfall like a battering ram.
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# ? Oct 24, 2020 07:54 |
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I note that Jagganoth is missing the same eye Allison is going to lose. Is this going to end up being some kind of Odin thing?
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# ? Oct 24, 2020 08:08 |
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Darth Walrus posted:I note that Jagganoth is missing the same eye Allison is going to lose. Is this going to end up being some kind of Odin thing? No, I think she is gonna just get mutilated by a giant fight man with many swords.
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# ? Oct 24, 2020 08:13 |
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Jag in the title card page also has two eyes again, make of that what you might
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# ? Oct 24, 2020 08:15 |
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PMush Perfect posted:I genuinely hope we don't get another whole mini-arc exploring why Jagg is big and strong and sad. We actually already have, funnily enough.
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# ? Oct 24, 2020 08:16 |
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She started looking like Incubus in the previous books, I guess Harlockison could symbolically be more similar to Jagganoth for some reason.
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# ? Oct 24, 2020 08:20 |
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Is the thing we're gonna hate is Allison falling for Jag's scam?
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# ? Oct 24, 2020 09:01 |
Clearly Jagganoth is Allison from the future, it's the only explanation for the eyes.
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# ? Oct 24, 2020 10:25 |
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Joe Slowboat posted:E: We already know why he's big and strong and sad, Yaun ten Jantris is a name we know already. I had no idea who that was until I read this thread.
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# ? Oct 24, 2020 10:49 |
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GunnerJ posted:I had no idea who that was until I read this thread.
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# ? Oct 24, 2020 10:52 |
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I honestly don't like most of that text? Just something about its style annoys me in a way the same type of stuff would not in the comic. So I typically don't read it.
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# ? Oct 24, 2020 10:56 |
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I think the thing we're about to hate is Allison being mentally and physically tortured by Jagganoth on screen... E: ^^^ You're missing a large chunk of the story's background context by skipping it.
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# ? Oct 24, 2020 10:56 |
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GunnerJ posted:I honestly don't like most of that text? Just something about its style annoys me in a way the same type of stuff would not in the comic. So I typically don't read it. Absolute scandal
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# ? Oct 24, 2020 11:04 |
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There Bias Two posted:E: ^^^ You're missing a large chunk of the story's background context by skipping it. I don't enjoy it, so oh well. But this is the first time reading the comic that I actually feel like I've missed out on anything by not reading it.
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# ? Oct 24, 2020 11:23 |
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There is so much context and flavor in those stories, and many are written much in the grandiose way of parables and koans, which is why i think you dislike them. Personally, however, I dont see much difference in how the stories and the comic are written. At the very least, read the silver prince.
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# ? Oct 24, 2020 11:47 |
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I feel extremely dumb for forgetting that the skull was a part of the helmet and not Jaggie's actual face.
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# ? Oct 24, 2020 12:16 |
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Rigged Death Trap posted:There is so much context and flavor in those stories, and many are written much in the grandiose way of parables and koans, which is why i think you dislike them. Personally, however, I dont see much difference in how the stories and the comic are written. That's the stylistic issue, it reads like a lot of worldbuilding draft notes that aren't usually intended for outside consumption, like out-takes from the K6BD version of The Silmarillion. It is not to dissimilar from how a lot of characters talk in the comic but there's something grounding about that kind of thing coming from a character placed in the world and usually with an audience of a Normal Earth Person trying to make sense of it. Lacking that it's just purple prose, to me. I'm not going to keep defending the fact that I don't like the under text because I am not attacking anyone for liking it. But I also want to mention that the term capital-R Royalty is something I am not sure comes up in the comic (or maybe only in passing? idk) because I only remember first encountering it reading this thread. It's also something that I don't think I am missing much for not "getting" by not reading the under text because from what I can tell, as a background worldbuilding concept, it's clear enough in the way the comic shows its characters acting even without a term to put to it.
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# ? Oct 24, 2020 12:31 |
GunnerJ posted:That's the stylistic issue, it reads like a lot of worldbuilding draft notes that aren't usually intended for outside consumption, like out-takes from the K6BD version of The Silmarillion. It is not to dissimilar from how a lot of characters talk in the comic but there's something grounding about that kind of thing coming from a character placed in the world and usually with an audience of a Normal Earth Person trying to make sense of it. Lacking that it's just purple prose, to me. I had honestly totally missed the text in my first read through. It was checking out the SA thread and wondering wtf everyone was talking about that made me look deeper. I still haven't read all the text, need to psyche myself up for another read-through with all the text included.
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# ? Oct 24, 2020 12:40 |
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Donkringel posted:I still haven't read all the text, need to psyche myself up for another read-through with all the text included. That's probably what I'm going to do once it's all over, but for now I want to see things from the same fish-out-of-water perspective as the main character (which is another reason I think I've avoided reading it).
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# ? Oct 24, 2020 12:46 |
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I'm not reading the under-comic text either, for all the reasons you described.
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# ? Oct 24, 2020 12:52 |
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GunnerJ posted:That's probably what I'm going to do once it's all over, but for now I want to see things from the same fish-out-of-water perspective as the main character (which is another reason I think I've avoided reading it). then it is a peculiar choice to follow this thread, a goon thread for this comic, i.e. the place where every nook and cranny will be mulched to a fine powder of detail and cross-referenced in terms of lore with the intricacy of a schizophrenic's yarn board
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# ? Oct 24, 2020 12:57 |
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I feel like the text is so essential to the comic overall - I honestly would miss it in a print version. There's so much worldbuilding in there, and I really enjoy the quasi-mythical way of storytelling. But it's a sign of great storytelling that K6BD works very well even without it - just hinting at concepts and depth that very much exists. Also, Aesma is hilarious
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# ? Oct 24, 2020 13:12 |
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The text is essential to the full KSBD experience for Intra alone. Anyone else thought there would be a full book for each of the Seven like with Mottom, Mammon and Solomon David? Incubus has had his equivalent moment in the spotlight through Allison and Maya but I feel like we don't know as much about Gog-Agog, Jagganoth and Jadis, with much of what we know being out-of-comic lore. DarkCrawler fucked around with this message at 13:31 on Oct 24, 2020 |
# ? Oct 24, 2020 13:29 |
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I am amused that when you gently caress up bad enough the Paternum uses your full name so you know you're really in trouble
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# ? Oct 24, 2020 13:50 |
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Straight White Shark posted:I am amused that when you gently caress up bad enough the Paternum uses your full name so you know you're really in trouble Livid Dad Energy. What do you think about groundings, girl?
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# ? Oct 24, 2020 14:28 |
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Lights posted:Livid Dad Energy. What do you think about groundings, girl? House arrest is a perpetual grounding motion
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# ? Oct 24, 2020 14:43 |
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The thing we won't like is she'll say yes and Jagganoth will join the party
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# ? Oct 24, 2020 15:46 |
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DarkCrawler posted:The text is essential to the full KSBD experience for Intra alone. I feel like we had introduction & Mottom, then Mammon and Incubus, then Solomon and Gog-Agog, and now we have Jagganoth & Jadis.
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# ? Oct 24, 2020 15:50 |
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# ? Oct 24, 2020 16:01 |
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Holy poo poo,
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# ? Oct 24, 2020 16:04 |
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Since he's planning to nuke reality, more like an especially radioactive rock. Also,
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# ? Oct 24, 2020 16:22 |
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Straight White Shark posted:I am amused that when you gently caress up bad enough the Paternum uses your full name so you know you're really in trouble ngl, until you said this I had thought his name was the code word to activate the pact.
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# ? Oct 24, 2020 17:31 |
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maswastaken posted:Since he's planning to nuke reality, more like an especially radioactive rock. I think that Young Shaven Incubus, not Big Sad
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# ? Oct 24, 2020 17:41 |
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Note also Jaggs's one eye. I'm wondering whether dude might also be part of the mysterious Cycle as a Zeus/Odin-type figure.
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# ? Oct 24, 2020 17:49 |