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Lead By Example
Jul 17, 2009

I buy and resell Pokemon cards for a living. If you're ever looking to sell your childhood, please reach out!
Fallen Rib
I am in Texas, USA.

Simply put, I made some bad business decisions while I was younger, and am currently facing the consequences of them.

About 4 years ago, I opened a small business with a former business partner. A couple of lines of credit were opened in my name that ended up getting a pretty large tab on them.

Back in February, I decided I didn't want to be in the industry anymore, and my business partner bought me out of my stake. This was done very informally, with almost no paperwork on either side. There is plenty of correspondence via Facebook Messenger where in which he said he would continue paying the credit cards and running the business in good faith.

With that in mind, fast forward eight months and both credit cards have gone delinquent. My credit is devastated, having gone from an 810 to a 540. The business is still open and operating, and as far as I know is actually doing great despite COVID.

Is there anything I can do to get these dings off my credit even though they are in my name, if another person had agreed to be paying them off, and clearly has the financials to be able to do so? I'm assuming the answer is just that I'm screwed, but I figure it's worth asking.

Thank you for your time.

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Soylent Pudding
Jun 22, 2007

We've got people!


The answer is talk to a Texas lawyer who handles small businesses. Also if you have any messages on Facebook or wherever print them out or otherwise archive them off facebook. When I was a lawyer I lost count of the number of times the opposing party blocked my client on facebook which removed their half of the shared message history.

Lead By Example
Jul 17, 2009

I buy and resell Pokemon cards for a living. If you're ever looking to sell your childhood, please reach out!
Fallen Rib
That's a very good point regarding downloading our messages -- I'll do that now.

Yeah I figured the actual answer was ask a lawyer, I'll do that.

Captain von Trapp
Jan 23, 2006

I don't like it, and I'm sorry I ever had anything to do with it.

Soylent Pudding posted:

The answer is talk to a Texas lawyer who handles small businesses. Also if you have any messages on Facebook or wherever print them out or otherwise archive them off facebook. When I was a lawyer I lost count of the number of times the opposing party blocked my client on facebook which removed their half of the shared message history.

Can you subpoena that sort of thing? Does it work if you do?

Soylent Pudding
Jun 22, 2007

We've got people!


Maybe? Honestly never tried because back in '13-14 most of the firm's clients couldn't afford to take things to trial. Really we were just jockeying for leverage during the highly recommend court ordered voluntary mediation after the first round of summary judgment motions. Very few made it to discovery to even consider trying to subpoena third parties.

Lead By Example
Jul 17, 2009

I buy and resell Pokemon cards for a living. If you're ever looking to sell your childhood, please reach out!
Fallen Rib
I'm currently trying to figure out what my options are for fixing my credit -- I don't even have the account info to these accounts anymore, so even if I wanted to I can't pay them off.

This is happening at pretty much the worst possible time as well, since I'm in the middle of moving half way across the country, and the damage to my credit is bad enough that I'm legitimately concerned I won't be able to find a place better than an extended stay.

Phil Moscowitz
Feb 19, 2007

If blood be the price of admiralty,
Lord God, we ha' paid in full!
Subpoenaing Facebook in my experience is like yelling at a well-funded wall that has no interest listening to you and will pay its lawyers infinite money to not have to produce a loving thing.

All big data companies actually.

EwokEntourage
Jun 10, 2008

BREYER: Actually, Antonin, you got it backwards. See, a power bottom is actually generating all the dissents by doing most of the work.

SCALIA: Stephen, I've heard that speed has something to do with it.

BREYER: Speed has everything to do with it.

Lead By Example posted:

I'm currently trying to figure out what my options are for fixing my credit -- I don't even have the account info to these accounts anymore, so even if I wanted to I can't pay them off.

This is happening at pretty much the worst possible time as well, since I'm in the middle of moving half way across the country, and the damage to my credit is bad enough that I'm legitimately concerned I won't be able to find a place better than an extended stay.

Lyon can try just disputing the trade lines repeatedly to see if they get tired of dealing with you

Or talk to a fdcpa attorney in your city/state they’ll probably file lawsuits for you regardless of how valid they are

Skunkduster
Jul 15, 2005




In this newsclip from a police interrogation, the narrator says at 1:25 "The sound cuts out at this point. The state attorney's office edited out parts of the video. They say 'so it won't jeopardize the confession'." What can you infer from that?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNU3N3RhFXw

BigHead
Jul 25, 2003
Huh?


Nap Ghost

SkunkDuster posted:

In this newsclip from a police interrogation, the narrator says at 1:25 "The sound cuts out at this point. The state attorney's office edited out parts of the video. They say 'so it won't jeopardize the confession'." What can you infer from that?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNU3N3RhFXw

First thing I thought of was a Bruton edit and the news channel grabbed the video from a trial exhibit. Kid confesses but implicates a second suspect. "I didn't shoot him, Timmy did! I was just the get away driver!" At their joint trial, the rules get tricky on how confessions get played, particularly when those confessions are testimonial and implicate co-defendants. The case name, again, is Bruton but there are Melendez-Diaz concerns too. In that scenario, the prosecution moves to introduce the unsanatized version, defense objects to any of it coming in, judge listens and orders the prosecution to edit out inadmissible parts. Totally standard.

I have also seen those interviews go on for hours. Heck I saw the entire recording of a three day standoff get introduced at trial. In that scenario, if the prosecutor edits it down to the relevant bits, the defense can (and should) argue to the jury that the prosecutor is hiding evidence from them. The solution is to admit the entire three day recording, but play an edited version for the jury, and then tell them they can spend three days in deliberations listening if they want to spot check the edits. You also do this with huge cumbersome document exhibits, like accountant excel spreadsheets that are 400,000 lines long.

Third option is the kid confessed to another crime for which he isn't on trial. Cop driving around busts him for simple possession and brings him in to interview for the murder. The prosecutor doesn't charge the possession. Kid in the recording says "I only had herion, I didn't kill him!" Any judge would order that edited out.

Fourth option is news anchors describing criminal proceedings are like your layman self trying to describe a knee replacement surgery. You would sound like a layman to any doctor. That news anchor sounds like every other news anchor trying to describe a Bruton objection to a testimonial statement when the co-defendants are joined for trial. He's a layman fumbling for the right words; "jeopardize the confession" isn't a thing. Edit: it's an early evening broadcast so this is more compounded by him probably having picked the hours of audio up at 3 with a 4:30 filing deadline.

BigHead fucked around with this message at 06:54 on Oct 22, 2020

Skunkduster
Jul 15, 2005




Thanks for your thoughtful response. I took it to mean that there might have been something in the edited part that could prove his innocence (based on what the journalist said), but everything you said makes more sense.

kuddles
Jul 16, 2006

Like a fist wrapped in blood...
Hope this is an okay thread to ask this...I just have a speculative enquiry.

A short while back, bored with being cooped up during a pandemic and curious about getting a car, I went to a dealership for a test drive. While I was there, I entered a contest to win an SUV.

I later read the contest rules and noted the line you see often on these things along the lines that the price is "not transferable." Sometimes I see the line slightly changed to say it's transferable only within a household if the winner is a minor.

It just got me to thinking that I entered the contest on a whim, but if I actually won a luxury SUV that I would not like driving and be responsible for insurance and maintenance, my instinct would be to sell it.

Is that not transferable line actually legally binding? Obviously if it's a voucher or cruise ticket in your name there's nothing you can do, but could they actually legally take an item away if you tried to sell it or give it away? Tried googling but only found a 15 year old Google thread where sweepstakes winners mentioned that their prizes were kicked off of eBay by the company that gave it to them.

I'm in Canada but just curious so telling me the law in America is fine and is likely similar.

Alchenar
Apr 9, 2008

kuddles posted:

Hope this is an okay thread to ask this...I just have a speculative enquiry.

A short while back, bored with being cooped up during a pandemic and curious about getting a car, I went to a dealership for a test drive. While I was there, I entered a contest to win an SUV.

I later read the contest rules and noted the line you see often on these things along the lines that the price is "not transferable." Sometimes I see the line slightly changed to say it's transferable only within a household if the winner is a minor.

It just got me to thinking that I entered the contest on a whim, but if I actually won a luxury SUV that I would not like driving and be responsible for insurance and maintenance, my instinct would be to sell it.

Is that not transferable line actually legally binding? Obviously if it's a voucher or cruise ticket in your name there's nothing you can do, but could they actually legally take an item away if you tried to sell it or give it away? Tried googling but only found a 15 year old Google thread where sweepstakes winners mentioned that their prizes were kicked off of eBay by the company that gave it to them.

I'm in Canada but just curious so telling me the law in America is fine and is likely similar.

It means you can't say to the company 'no actually can you deliver to this person and address?'. They commit to dripping it on your doorstep and then its yours.

Grumpwagon
May 6, 2007
I am a giant assfuck who needs to harden the fuck up.

Alchenar posted:

It means you can't say to the company 'no actually can you deliver to this person and address?'. They commit to dripping it on your doorstep and then its yours.

And once it is yours it is free to do whatever you want with it, including selling it immediately.

Bodrick
Jan 3, 2009

In the unlikely event it gets outside, use full force to feign ignorance and pretend nothing happened.
If Rudy Giuliani had believed Maria Bakalova to be 15 (even though she was 24), and still actually had sexual contact with her, would he have committed a crime? It's obviously sleazy AF, and I'm fairly sure it would be statutory rape if the ages were reversed, but it seems like it possibly wouldn't be illegal if they both consented, since they were both legal age (even if he didn't think she was).

tinytort
Jun 10, 2013

Super healthy, super cheap

Bodrick posted:

If Rudy Giuliani had believed Maria Bakalova to be 15 (even though she was 24), and still actually had sexual contact with her, would he have committed a crime? It's obviously sleazy AF, and I'm fairly sure it would be statutory rape if the ages were reversed, but it seems like it possibly wouldn't be illegal if they both consented, since they were both legal age (even if he didn't think she was).

I'm pretty sure that creeps get stung by honeypot scams all the time where the cops have someone posing as a minor.

NAL, but if the dude believed she was underage and was proceeding anyways, he's still hosed even if she wasn't actually underage. The mens rea matters more than the rest of it for this.

Anonymous Zebra
Oct 21, 2005
Blending in like it ain't no thang

Bodrick posted:

If Rudy Giuliani had believed Maria Bakalova to be 15 (even though she was 24), and still actually had sexual contact with her, would he have committed a crime? It's obviously sleazy AF, and I'm fairly sure it would be statutory rape if the ages were reversed, but it seems like it possibly wouldn't be illegal if they both consented, since they were both legal age (even if he didn't think she was).

I loving love living in the Hell Timeline where this question even needs to exist.

Outrail
Jan 4, 2009

www.sapphicrobotica.com
:roboluv: :love: :roboluv:
So if someone truly believes a stuffed animal is real and shoots it, they could get arrested on animal cruelty charges?

Bad Munki
Nov 4, 2008

We're all mad here.


Probably not animal cruelty but I’m pretty sure that’s a tactic for stinging poachers, so in essence, yeah.

Anonymous Zebra
Oct 21, 2005
Blending in like it ain't no thang

Outrail posted:

So if someone truly believes a stuffed animal is real and shoots it, they could get arrested on animal cruelty charges?

Game's Enforcers have realistic robot deer they use to sting illegal hunters, so yes, this does kind of happen.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS
A person can be convicted of murder for shooting someone who’s already dead.

evilweasel
Aug 24, 2002


They can be convicted of attempted murder, which is a key word in there.

evilweasel fucked around with this message at 01:36 on Oct 25, 2020

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS
I accidentally an entire word.

Anyway, point is that Giuliani can come on to a minor without, well, you know.

evilweasel
Aug 24, 2002

Platystemon posted:

I accidentally an entire word.

Anyway, point is that Giuliani can come on to a minor without, well, you know.

Yeah, if it’s impossible for you to commit the crime for a reason unknown to you generally you didn’t, but you might be guilty of attempt.

thehoodie
Feb 8, 2011

"Eat something made with love and joy - and be forgiven"
Criminal law in Canada says it is a crime to communicate for a sexual purpose with "a person who is, or who the accused believes is, under the age of 16 years." So explicitly it would be a crime. But the question is always proving what was in the accused's mind at the time.

toplitzin
Jun 13, 2003






BonerGhost
Mar 9, 2007

Xposted to insurance thread

BonerGhost posted:

Tl;dr: Insurance and/or agent hosed up and got our car registrations and a license suspended. I can legally drive but I need a car in the interim, am I just eating the cost of the rental?

My husband is an active duty Florida resident with his DL and our car registrations in Florida. We live in Nebraska (I am a licensed Nebraska driver). Florida explicitly says this arrangement is ok for active duty military.

We bought a house a little while ago and changed to an independent agent locally for home and auto because USAA wouldn't give us a homeowner's quote when we bought it due to occupancy. Husband updated address and coverage with Florida DMV.

Our agent waited 2.5 months to send us a letter saying "Nebraska dmv can't find your cars???" We called her immediately and got it squared away (we thought).

Florida DMV suspended his license and our car registrations as of Oct 20 (letter received today) because Nationwide denied we had coverage when they tried to confirm the info we gave. The policy number cited by DMV is the same policy number shown when we log into our Nationwide account.

I'm still going back and forth to the old place and am not comfortable driving a vehicle with suspended registration in the name of someone with a suspended license.

Can I reasonably expect these people to cover a rental for the 10+ days it'll take Florida to sort this out after the agent faxes proof of insurance? What are my next steps besides firing this agent and/or finding other insurance?

E: got an answer re license reinstatement

Should I be concerned about a record of the suspension?

BonerGhost fucked around with this message at 19:14 on Oct 25, 2020

Arcturas
Mar 30, 2011

That letter’s cool and all, but they missed an opportunity to just write “lol, see you in discovery.”

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS
Doesn’t every lawyer dream of writing a Browns Letter or the response given in Arkell v. Pressdram?

VanSandman
Feb 16, 2011
SWAP.AVI EXCHANGER

Arcturas posted:

That letter’s cool and all, but they missed an opportunity to just write “lol, see you in discovery.”

Is there an accepted font size, can you reply with an illegally large LOL

Outrail
Jan 4, 2009

www.sapphicrobotica.com
:roboluv: :love: :roboluv:
You know things got real when the citations are almost as long as the letter.

Hieronymous Alloy
Jan 30, 2009


Why! Why!! Why must you refuse to accept that Dr. Hieronymous Alloy's Genetically Enhanced Cream Corn Is Superior to the Leading Brand on the Market!?!




Morbid Hound

Outrail posted:

So if someone truly believes a stuffed animal is real and shoots it, they could get arrested on animal cruelty charges?
It depends on the specific wording of the statute. Sometimes impossibility is a defense,.other.crimes only the intent to commit matters.

toplitzin
Jun 13, 2003


The smartest people.

https://twitter.com/renato_mariotti/status/1320727998077804547

Bad Munki
Nov 4, 2008

We're all mad here.


More like amateur se

toplitzin
Jun 13, 2003


Bad Munki posted:

More like amateur se

Speaking of amateur hour:

Bad Munki
Nov 4, 2008

We're all mad here.


Uhhhhhhhhhhhhh please don't doxx me

Outrail
Jan 4, 2009

www.sapphicrobotica.com
:roboluv: :love: :roboluv:

toplitzin posted:

Speaking of amateur hour:


Sign here to be sexually assaulted.

Reads like a waiver a sketchy porno director makes his actors sign.

DaveSauce
Feb 15, 2004

Oh, how awkward.

toplitzin posted:

Speaking of amateur hour:


Holy poo poo that took a left turn.

could a lawyer actually write that and not be immediately disbarred y/n

Alchenar
Apr 9, 2008

DaveSauce posted:

Holy poo poo that took a left turn.

could a lawyer actually write that and not be immediately disbarred y/n

No but not because of the seediness but because "I will consent to contact when it is consensual" is a redundant term that would get you a fail on Drafting.

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Devor
Nov 30, 2004
Lurking more.

Alchenar posted:

No but not because of the seediness but because "I will consent to contact when it is consensual" is a redundant term that would get you a fail on Drafting.

I fail when I include the "when it's consensual" clause, and I fail when I don't include the consensual clause

How the hell am I supposed to write a rape contract

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