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Elderbean
Jun 10, 2013


Lol our society really does worship rich men for being horny perverts. That Casablancas article is page after page of making this rapist sound like Ghandi.

I always retch when being a sex pest is framed as being a "lover of women."

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Wraith of J.O.I.
Jan 25, 2012


gotta admit tho, julian casablancas is such a good rock frontman name

DR FRASIER KRANG
Feb 4, 2005

"Are you forgetting that just this afternoon I was punched in the face by a turtle now dead?
it makes a lot more sense now that he was allowed to be a frontman for a rock band when he actually cannot sing at all

Elderbean
Jun 10, 2013


Anyone who sincerely believes we live in a merit based economy is loving nuts. Nearly every major musician, director, model, artist, etc is the child of some rapist businessman or a CIA op.

Pretty much anytime you look into the history of a celebrity its like "His daddy was rich and had connections but we're gonna act like he worked really hard to get that record deal."

QuickbreathFinisher
Sep 28, 2008

by reading this post you have agreed to form a gay socialist micronation.
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Elderbean posted:

Anyone who sincerely believes we live in a merit based economy is loving nuts. Nearly every major musician, director, model, artist, etc is the child of some rapist businessman or a CIA op.

Pretty much anytime you look into the history of a celebrity its like "His daddy was rich and had connections but we're gonna act like he worked really hard to get that record deal."

has this thread discussed Jared Leto yet because i feel like there is something going on there too.

best one is still Jim Morrison's dad doing Gulf of Tonkin.

Wraith of J.O.I.
Jan 25, 2012


poo poo POST MALONE posted:

it makes a lot more sense now that he was allowed to be a frontman for a rock band when he actually cannot sing at all

garbage take, the strokes rule sorry your ears suck!

Bip Roberts
Mar 29, 2005
reptilia is about lizard people

QuickbreathFinisher
Sep 28, 2008

by reading this post you have agreed to form a gay socialist micronation.
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i just listened to But Julian I'm a Little Bit Older Than You and it
a) sucks
and
b) makes references to reading minds, knowing where you live, being in your head, and what sounds like wiretapping/more stalking in the bridge.

quote:

You know how when your phone went dead?
Well, that was me on the other end
You know how when your phone went dead?
Oh, that was me on the other end
And when I touched your limousine
I really felt the vibe
It said “I love you, babygirl”, you know
’Cause I can read your mind
what was that hypernormalization/c*ppy t*a thing about messages coded in garbage culture

Bip Roberts posted:

reptilia is about lizard people

yes

Sharkopath
May 27, 2009

Elderbean posted:

Anyone who sincerely believes we live in a merit based economy is loving nuts. Nearly every major musician, director, model, artist, etc is the child of some rapist businessman or a CIA op.

Pretty much anytime you look into the history of a celebrity its like "His daddy was rich and had connections but we're gonna act like he worked really hard to get that record deal."

It's still real connections based but a lot of artists are working or middle class backgrounds whose parents had enough money to foster their talent.

A lot of black actors have the same background of theater kid whose parents were involved in some profession that gave them just enough stability financially, like medicine or working for the county that they were able to go from high school to college before they got a break. Thats a lot of rappers too.

The connections are also about forming networks too, when your friends are getting work theyre able to pass it on to you, like a good chunk of the network animation field in the us is people who worked on adventure time who have now split off and gotten their foot in the door enough to pitch their own shows. Lots of rappers are music nerds who met and grouped up in clubs in high school or college or as acquaintances interested in the same sounds, etc.

Sharkopath has issued a correction as of 18:27 on Oct 25, 2020

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

QuickbreathFinisher posted:

has this thread discussed Jared Leto yet because i feel like there is something going on there too.

best one is still Jim Morrison's dad doing Gulf of Tonkin.

https://web.archive.org/web/20191115222015/https://lorenzoae.wordpress.com/2019/09/15/the-deep-politics-of-jared-letos-cult/

Happy Thread
Jul 10, 2005

by Fluffdaddy
Plaster Town Cop

Backweb posted:

Above someone asked about secret breeding farms for child sex slavery and in the context of real-world crimes, keeping them secret doesn't really work as a flex...

You're right, it's too communal, and the rich do love to individually flex. However, they're not above mutually conspiring toward a Socialism That's For The Rich Only (Fascism). If they can get a secret military base to fill that role for them, they'd all appreciate it as a mutual safe zone and starting point from which to further flex at each other.

nut
Jul 30, 2019

Backweb posted:

Makes me wonder though, if Jeffrey thought he had godlike genes and was going to populate the world with his seed... did he have any offspring?

Lol what a loser. I bet he saved his cum for himself so he wouldn't have his essence stolen.

Above someone asked about secret breeding farms for child sex slavery and in the context of real-world crimes, keeping them secret doesn't really work as a flex...

I was under the impression that Epstein’s Zorro Ranch was in part an operation where he would inseminate as many woman as he could. I don’t remember where I got that info from but I can look into it later.

Didn’t Maria Farmer talk about Ghislane asking her to act as a breeder for Epstein, someone who would have to give up the kid to him ultimately

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014



lmao

Happy Thread
Jul 10, 2005

by Fluffdaddy
Plaster Town Cop
Do not make a QCS thread. That judge and jury are rigged. If you haven't already experienced it as such, now you know. There have always been things to observe about the site's leadership circles that are incredibly fishy, separate from the individual personalities or "power shifts" between individuals. You're not going to make any progress when you're against a hidden network of informants always handing out forums power to their own.

Cuppy himself expressed a wish offsite not to campaign for him, to avoid drawing unwanted attention to the Epstein thread---from mods, the forum at large, and from outsiders.

WeedlordGoku69
Feb 12, 2015

by Cyrano4747

COMPAGNIE TOMMY posted:

:ok: Yeah I guess you're right, if you haven't seen one they definitely aren't real. Thanks for allaying all our fears

to be more clear: i spent the bulk of my teen years moderating 7chan, a 4chan spinoff for people who sucked too much poo poo for 4chan. (i did this because 1, I was a dumb teenager who wanted power on the internet, and 2, their line was that they were the "cooler" chan site and I bought it because I was a dumb teenager.)

my moderating duties consisted of "keep the child porn and other assorted illegal poo poo out of /b/" and i was kept very busy with them. i have probably seen a large bulk of the horrifying illegal poo poo that was floating around on the internet around 2010-2011ish or prior. i have seen more CP, more people getting hosed by animals, and more horrifying gore than any human being should ever have to have in their memories. there's a reason i've seen enough real-life gore videos to be able to categorize them by the general types they fall into, and it isn't that I actively go seek this poo poo out (I like fictional gore plenty but... I'm not gonna lie, this poo poo kind of left me with a lot of lingering trauma and I can't even look at anything that reminds me of it anymore basically).

given that i spent my free time breathing the farts directly from the gaping rear end in a top hat of the internet and actively having to keep an eye out for anything "too much for /b/," with a userbase that largely got kicked out of 4chan for pushing the line too hard, and i still haven't seen a real-deal snuff film made for commercial purposes, i can say this pretty drat confidently. if they existed, they'd have escaped into my sight in that time period, and yet they never did.

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Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


i feel like having a teen moderate a chan site should be some sort of crime

WeedlordGoku69
Feb 12, 2015

by Cyrano4747

Sheng-Ji Yang posted:

i feel like having a teen moderate a chan site should be some sort of crime

yeah, trust me, i'm not putting this forth as a good thing so much as a "i'm not kidding, i have seen some poo poo" thing. i'm not talking from the rear end or bragging about how "hardcore" i am when i say that i almost certainly would've seen a snuff film, if they were real; i'm saying that because some dickhead would have absolutely posted one to /b/ and I would've been the poor bastard having to clean up the mess.

e: this probably actually goes some ways to explaining why i am, charitably, Unstable As All Hell too

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QuickbreathFinisher
Sep 28, 2008

by reading this post you have agreed to form a gay socialist micronation.
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hell yeah i've been looking for this article for ages. thank you comrade

WeedlordGoku69
Feb 12, 2015

by Cyrano4747

Happy Thread posted:

Do not make a QCS thread. That judge and jury are rigged. If you haven't already experienced it as such, now you know. There have always been things to observe about the site's leadership circles that are incredibly fishy, separate from the individual personalities or "power shifts" between individuals. You're not going to make any progress when you're against a hidden network of informants always handing out forums power to their own.

Cuppy himself expressed a wish offsite not to campaign for him, to avoid drawing unwanted attention to the Epstein thread---from mods, the forum at large, and from outsiders.

also, backing up a sec, i just looked into this and the gently caress

you realize all this numerology satan QAnon nonsense is a deliberate psyop to make people look like they're batshit insane for talking about epstein, right

if you actually unironically believe that end of it, you're either having a psychotic break or actively trying to gently caress over people doing the right thing

e: like, the thing to keep in mind, that i'm sort of trying to steer everyone towards, is... y'all know about the concept of the banality of evil, right? like, you're not fighting against Skeletor or Cobra Commander here. you're fighting against human beings with largely the same thought processes as us, who either see this horrifying poo poo as a job, a pastime, a networking opportunity, or some mix of the three. the people who are doing this aren't going to be operating on supervillain logic and trying to summon Satan or bring about a thousand years of darkness or whatever; they just either want to have some really hosed up sex parties with underage girls (if they're a participant) or they wanna get rich off people who want to have hosed up sex parties (if they're setting this up), and they presumably want to do it in whatever way causes the former group the least fuss and makes the latter group the most money, with all other priorities being extremely secondary.

it's kind of inherently horrifying and brain-breaking that regular-rear end humans like us are capable of poo poo like this when given the power and influence to do it, and all just for shits and giggles rather than any grand purpose. but it's something you've gotta internalize, or you're never gonna be able to approach this situation properly and you will always sound like a brainwormed lunatic talking about it.

WeedlordGoku69 has issued a correction as of 20:44 on Oct 25, 2020

WeedlordGoku69
Feb 12, 2015

by Cyrano4747
also, regarding snuff films in particular, i feel like the other thing to keep in mind is, like...

if you're that level of rich, and you get off on murder, you can just go murder somebody and there is a near certainty that you will get away with it. a snuff film would honestly probably seem kinda quaint to the people we're discussing, for the simple reason that it's not showing them anything they can't just do. if snuff films existed, the primary audience would be people who can't just trivially get away with murdering a random person, meaning they would most likely not be restricted to the uber-rich.

Dixon Chisholm
Jan 2, 2020
sorry
im too busy being disgusted by your moderating 7chan

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


Happy Thread posted:

Do not make a QCS thread. That judge and jury are rigged. If you haven't already experienced it as such, now you know. There have always been things to observe about the site's leadership circles that are incredibly fishy, separate from the individual personalities or "power shifts" between individuals. You're not going to make any progress when you're against a hidden network of informants always handing out forums power to their own.

Cuppy himself expressed a wish offsite not to campaign for him, to avoid drawing unwanted attention to the Epstein thread---from mods, the forum at large, and from outsiders.

lol

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


i get theres been a lot of very dumb poo poo w/ mods, but having seen Behind The Curtain let me assure you "dont attribute to malice that which can be explained by incompetence" absolutely rules here

Happy Thread
Jul 10, 2005

by Fluffdaddy
Plaster Town Cop
I didn't say mods, I said leadership

Was it incompetency or malice when Jack Daniels got let back in through the backdoor? Or when FYAD quietly reopened in July, or got to exist as a non-indexed forum after the original backlash and closure? Like in actual society, the real decision makers are someone else than claimed.

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WeedlordGoku69
Feb 12, 2015

by Cyrano4747

Dixon Chisholm posted:

sorry
im too busy being disgusted by your moderating 7chan

yeah that's not a time period i look back on very fondly. i was a loving moron as a teenager and judging by the amount of trauma i accumulated from that i'd say it bit me in the rear end pretty hard.

Delta-Wye
Sep 29, 2005

WeedlordGoku69 posted:

the people who are doing this aren't going to be operating on supervillain logic and trying to summon Satan or bring about a thousand years of darkness or whatever;

This is something I've thought a lot about. There are a lot of crazy devout religious folks in positions of power, and I'm sure we've all read stories of people far too high up in the government talking about bringing on the end times with war in the middle east, or other crazy stories. How sure are you that stuff isn't driven by religious fervor?

Tubgoat
Jun 30, 2013

by sebmojo

WeedlordGoku69 posted:

also, regarding snuff films in particular, i feel like the other thing to keep in mind is, like...

if you're that level of rich, and you get off on murder, you can just go murder somebody and there is a near certainty that you will get away with it. a snuff film would honestly probably seem kinda quaint to the people we're discussing, for the simple reason that it's not showing them anything they can't just do. if snuff films existed, the primary audience would be people who can't just trivially get away with murdering a random person, meaning they would most likely not be restricted to the uber-rich.

That is an incredibly good point. Thank you for the perspective. And also thank you for your service in trying to moderate the unmoderateable.

Sheng-Ji Yang posted:

i get theres been a lot of very dumb poo poo w/ mods, but having seen Behind The Curtain let me assure you "dont attribute to malice that which can be explained by incompetence" absolutely rules here

There's too much, it cannot in good faith be attributed to incompetence.

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


Tubgoat posted:

There's too much, it cannot in good faith be attributed to incompetence.

what do you think is the nefarious goals of the admins

Marzzle
Dec 1, 2004

Bursting with flavor

WeedlordGoku69 posted:

also, regarding snuff films in particular, i feel like the other thing to keep in mind is, like...

if you're that level of rich, and you get off on murder, you can just go murder somebody and there is a near certainty that you will get away with it. a snuff film would honestly probably seem kinda quaint to the people we're discussing, for the simple reason that it's not showing them anything they can't just do. if snuff films existed, the primary audience would be people who can't just trivially get away with murdering a random person, meaning they would most likely not be restricted to the uber-rich.

if I can have sex, I'm definitely not going to keep any porn around

Tubgoat
Jun 30, 2013

by sebmojo
^ ^ ^ Unless your partner also enjoys it!

Sheng-Ji Yang posted:

what do you think is the nefarious goals of the admins
Run interference for the fascists on the closest thing to a leftist forum on the English-speaking internet, perhaps?
Drive the most perceptive members of society to catatonic despair/suicide?

Once is an honest mistake.
Twice is an accident.
Thrice is incompetence.
Thousands of incidents over a dozen years? No, I don't think so.

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


Tubgoat posted:

^ ^ ^ Unless your partner also enjoys it!

Run interference for the fascists on the closest thing to a leftist forum on the English-speaking internet, perhaps?
Drive the most perceptive members of society to catatonic despair/suicide?

Once is an honest mistake.
Twice is an accident.
Thrice is incompetence.
Thousands of incidents over a dozen years? No, I don't think so.

lol

Happy Thread
Jul 10, 2005

by Fluffdaddy
Plaster Town Cop

Sheng-Ji Yang posted:

what do you think is the nefarious goals of the admins

Keeping their plea bargain deals intact so their drug/porn charges (remember TCC/DPPH) never get acted on, most likely

Tubgoat
Jun 30, 2013

by sebmojo
Wait, what's DPPH?

LIVE AMMO COSPLAY
Feb 3, 2006

Sheng-Ji Yang posted:

what do you think is the nefarious goals of the admins

Marzzle
Dec 1, 2004

Bursting with flavor

Tubgoat posted:

Wait, what's DPPH?

not much, what's DPPH with you?

mdemone
Mar 14, 2001

Tubgoat posted:

Wait, what's DPPH?

this post gave me dopamine

Marzzle
Dec 1, 2004

Bursting with flavor

Tubgoat posted:

^ ^ ^ Unless your partner also enjoys it!

Run interference for the fascists on the closest thing to a leftist forum on the English-speaking internet, perhaps?
Drive the most perceptive members of society to catatonic despair/suicide?

Once is an honest mistake.
Twice is an accident.
Thrice is incompetence.
Thousands of incidents over a dozen years? No, I don't think so.

the joke is that ppl still keep porn around even if they can have sex so if you can murder people why not keep some videos around for when you're too busy to indulge your killing lust

Giga Gaia
May 2, 2006

360 kickflip to... Meteo?!
lmao

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


well time to alert our handlers the ep thread has caught on

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QuickbreathFinisher
Sep 28, 2008

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I'm still thinking about the Strokes and I might have to loop in some predatory behavior in the emo scene that directly followed after them, if there's anything to be found there at all. Some of that is probably just standard rock creep debauchery but the 2010s shone light on the fact that that scene was lousy with abusers. This is going to be a big project.

E: let the records show that the worst thing MCR did was start a band because of 9/11

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