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Kind of blows my mind to hear that sumo stables don't employ real trainers and nutritionists. Guess they'd all look like NFL guards or nose tackles if they did which would still be incredible to watch. Is the money just not there to fund it?
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Ches Neckbeard posted:Kind of blows my mind to hear that sumo stables don't employ real trainers and nutritionists. Guess they'd all look like NFL guards or nose tackles if they did which would still be incredible to watch. Is the money just not there to fund it? Relative to big sports like soccer, NFL, etc there's not that much money, but I'm not sure there's much real trainers or nutritionists could really add to their training. I mean, other than better injury management. High calorie diet with intensive strength training geared towards what happens on the dohyo. You could fiddle with weight regimes outside the traditional training, but that seems to happen already. Ideally, rikishi wouldn't be quite so fat, but average weights have been rising, so there's obviously an advantage to it. Look at some of the historical sizes - someone 'small' like Kotoeko would have been a fatty fat fat maybe even 50 years ago.
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Sep 30, 2020 04:47
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Take a look at the Vince Wilfork body issue if you want to know what most of the nose tackles and guards would look like without the benefit of pads. Top level sumo wrestlers are athletic as hell but also wearing very little.
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Gerund posted:Take a look at the Vince Wilfork body issue if you want to know what most of the nose tackles and guards would look like without the benefit of pads. Top level sumo wrestlers are athletic as hell but also wearing very little. Lol, I actually googled that while typing my previous post. I couldn't remember what position he played.
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Sep 30, 2020 05:09
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Gerund posted:Take a look at the Vince Wilfork body issue if you want to know what most of the nose tackles and guards would look like without the benefit of pads. Top level sumo wrestlers are athletic as hell but also wearing very little. I mean Vince still looked more "solid" I guess than the average sumo. I don't mean to diminish their athletic ability hell I got sold on giving sumo a shot because I like offensive line play. If you really want to talk NFL body issues the Eagles offensive line issue was more my thoughts. nsfw-ish. Nobody is hanging dong but I don't know your employer. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htrKSiRfkXI
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Sep 30, 2020 05:43
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Shodai's ozeki promotion ceremony.
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Sep 30, 2020 10:32
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Elissimpark posted:Relative to big sports like soccer, NFL, etc there's not that much money, but I'm not sure there's much real trainers or nutritionists could really add to their training. I mean, other than better injury management. The problem is that we don’t really know if there’s a better way to do things because no one wants to try and the rules are geared against them. The drills they are doing might work ok and do the job but who knows if there’s something better a real pro could figure out. All of the oyakata are great at sumo and might be fantastic at coaching all the technique involved, but there’s a reason why even D2 football teams have S&C coaches rather than just having the position coaches point them to the gym and tell them to do what they did in their playing days. Maybe they’ve stumbled on the ultimate training system but I’d bet against it. As for the rules, if the NFL said that in order to be hired on a coaching staff, you must have made a Pro-Bowl or have a 10 year career, they’d probably be able to find qualified coaches, but they’d have missed out on a lot of innovation over the years from guys who never made the pros for whatever reason.
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Sep 30, 2020 15:28
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Shiroc posted:Shodai looks less delighted with his victory fish than some of the other guys 
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Sep 30, 2020 17:10
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He’s making the same face as the fish
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Sep 30, 2020 17:16
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He's making the same face I would be if someone told me to hold a heavy rear end fish with one hand for anything more than four seconds.
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Sep 30, 2020 17:25
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Maybe he's making that face because someone told him he will make Ozeki, but there's a catch.
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Sep 30, 2020 19:14
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https://tachiai.org/2020/09/30/all-tamanoi-beya-rikishi-to-keep-their-ranks/ no loss of rank for any of the rikishi from the heya that suffered the covid outbreak right before the basho
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXbj-1xY7fc A cool video from Chris Sumo on Ura's return, as someone who started watching Sumo after his injury and hadn't seen many of his matches it still got me invested in him. Biosys fucked around with this message at 13:31 on Oct 3, 2020 |
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Oct 3, 2020 13:26
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Biosys posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXbj-1xY7fc Chris has been knocking it out of the park lately. His recent vids focusing on match analysis from the last basho has been pretty good. His latest one on what people have figured out about Enho is pretty good.
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Oct 5, 2020 15:59
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The NSK voted to increase the basho attendance limit from 2500 to 5000, 2 people per 4-person booth (up from 1), 1 empty seat spacing between occupied seats (down from 3).
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Oct 19, 2020 10:13
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Biosys posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXbj-1xY7fc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Km98x8L72hU Look how happy Ura is 
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Oct 19, 2020 14:50
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https://twitter.com/SumoFollower/status/1318511128360660993 lmao
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Oct 20, 2020 12:25
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hakuho is very good at sumo and probably anything that involves grappling
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Oct 20, 2020 13:42
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i take it the ban on deigeiko must be relaxed now? i did a double check in case i was mistaken but no they aren't in the same heya
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Marching Powder posted:hakuho is very good at sumo and probably anything that involves grappling His dad was an Olympic silver medalist in freestyle wrestling so he’s got the genes for it... Thauros posted:i take it the ban on deigeiko must be relaxed now? i did a double check in case i was mistaken but no they aren't in the same heya They opened up the kokugikan’s training area and said anyone looking for training partners can show up.
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Oct 20, 2020 14:33
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186 kg Orora https://twitter.com/satoshi551/status/1319856711709188101
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Brut posted:The NSK voted to increase the basho attendance limit from 2500 to 5000, 2 people per 4-person booth (up from 1), 1 empty seat spacing between occupied seats (down from 3). That's probably not a good idea as Japan is currently in the midst of a second wave that has twice as many cases as the first. https://the-japan-news.com/news/article/0006521366
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Oct 25, 2020 16:10
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COVID loving sucks. It's banzuke weekend though! The big question of the basho has to be if shin-ozeki Shodai can get a kachi-koshi. I think probably, but I don't think it will be a very strong one. He's definitely susceptible to getting too in his head, and I think he'll be stressed out at his ozeki debut.
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Oct 25, 2020 19:28
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Yup, Banzuke should be up in about 6 hours.
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Oct 25, 2020 19:33
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Good. I was going to start banging my knife and fork on the table and yelling “where’s my banzuke!” like in an old timey cartoon.
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And it’s up! http://www.sumo.or.jp/EnHonbashoBanzuke/index/index.php/index.php/index.php/ No surprises at the top. Ishiura and Kotoshigiku down to J3e and w respectively, Abi all the way down to J11. 29 year old Akua (Will be 30 by tourney start) is the only Makuuchi debut, though Kotonowaka who was 4-6-5 in his July debut will get another shot. Edit: Ura at J13e. The best anyone’s done at that rank this century is a 13-2 Yusho in 2007 and that got promoted to J3e so his earliest Makuuchi return looks like January. pseudodragon fucked around with this message at 03:37 on Oct 26, 2020 |
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Oct 26, 2020 03:17
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Hello, I have read this entire thread and now I am ready for Sumo
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Oct 26, 2020 07:55
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Welcome to the thread, friend, I hope you'll join us for Fantasy this basho.
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Oct 26, 2020 08:16
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I am here to root for Enho, who is small but large at heart
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Oct 26, 2020 08:30
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I hope his heart is a little bit larger in November than it was in September...
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Oct 26, 2020 09:23
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I knew it was coming but Ishiura dropping to Juryo is a real bummer
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Neodoomium posted:Hello, I have read this entire thread and now I am ready for Sumo congratulations. it loving owns. also, do the fantasy basho so when enho inevitably underperforms you've got other guys to root for.
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Oct 26, 2020 09:35
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Tochi at m7e? Surprised he didn't drop further.
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Oct 26, 2020 09:43
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Conversely, Takayasu back at K is a little surprising but not unwelcome. He did pretty well last go-around but I'm still being cautious. Let's say cautiously optimistic. I was only expecting a bump of a few spots. Figured maybe he and Tochi would just swap spots, not leapfrog all the way up to K.
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Martytoof posted:Conversely, Takayasu back at K is a little surprising but not unwelcome. He did pretty well last go-around but I'm still being cautious. Let's say cautiously optimistic. with the bloodbath at m2-4 and an extra san'yaku spot even after both m1s got promoted it basically had to be him or kiribayama. i had originally guessed the latter due to being ranked one full rank higher but the taichai banzuke predictor and a couple people here called that takayasu would prob get the nod due to an extra win plus his ozeki history. Thauros fucked around with this message at 16:06 on Oct 29, 2020 |
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To be frank I forgot about the hellscape that was M2-4 and withdraw my previous surprise  Though I would 100% believe there is a bit of the “ol’ ozeki privilege” that gave him the leg up on Kiribayama.
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whats for dinner posted:I knew it was coming but Ishiura dropping to Juryo is a real bummer I’m hoping he runs roughshod on some dudes if the ankle is healed up.
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Martytoof posted:To be frank I forgot about the hellscape that was M2-4 and withdraw my previous surprise 1 win vs. 1 rank is close enough that it’s a reasonable enough tie breaker. The other thing I read was that they punish kyujo “losses” harsher than real losses (which seems rather backwards) so that could Be the tiebreaker as well.
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The joys of being a parent.
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