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Superman killing him but in a fun way with levity would also be acceptable
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Oct 26, 2020 15:10
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multijoe posted:Superman killing him but in a fun way with levity would also be acceptable Oh yeah if after they landed Zod was already dead from the impact and Superman was like "Zod, more like Clod" people would have loved it.
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Oct 26, 2020 15:32
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Neo Rasa posted:A complaint that got aired a lot about him killing Zod was that Superman should have found a "third way" and it's like, yeah, that mindset's worked out great for us. Similarly, that Batman shouldn't have fought the black ops when saving Martha since he ought to be completely non-violent now that he made good with Superman.
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Oct 26, 2020 15:33
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*cripples Zod and leaves him to a mob for the Gaddafi treatment* "He's all yours" and blast off.
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Oct 26, 2020 15:34
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I guess I get where people are coming from with the Zod thing, because the idea of Superman for a long time was that he was literally the best possible person who could ever exist, and the inspirational thing to do would be to like, prove that he's Superman by turning Zod good so he just flies away or something. On the other hand, this can come across as "unrealistic" in that there's no way to take anything from it into the real world. Like, All-Star Superman has one issue that's directly referenced by "we could have built a new Krypton in this squalor" where evil Kryptonians show up and they say that to Superman before beating him up. Then they just drop dead, because they accidentally got poisoned before the story even began, and Superman is inspiring by being kind to them as they die. But what if they didn't die? How was he going to stop them? The story even asks this in an earlier issue when someone says "what happens when an unstoppable force meets an immovable object?" Well, what happens when someone who is morally good meets someone who can only be beaten by doing the morally bad thing of killing them? Who can't just be liberalled away? More to the point, why is allowing Lex to be executed by the government better than killing him directly? In the 1978 movie why does Superman say he's "on the same team" as the prison guards? Why is the idea of him taking on elected officials treated as a joke? How many diamond thieves have caused more suffering than George W Bush? Killing Zod asks what does it even mean to be good? You're in a room with a man who wants to kill a family, you can't talk him out of it and you can't McGuyver a solution out of cat fur and loose wires, and the writer has not arranged it so that he will simply have a heart attack without your input. What would Superman do in that situation? It calls back to Watchmen, where a powerful man decides to prevent human extinction by killing millions of people to unite the survivors. Superman realises what Veidt didn't: that people aren't just dying, they're being killed. Nuclear war wasn't spontaneously going to happen just because a sufficiently large number of people experienced negative emotions, nuclear war was going to happen because a small number of people were capable of making it happen. Superman saves the human race from annihilation by killing the one person who was going to cause it. That's not bad going. Luke Skywalker had to blow up a whole Death Star.
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Oct 26, 2020 15:57
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multijoe posted:Superman killing him but in a fun way with levity would also be acceptable Isn't this Superman 2?
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Oct 26, 2020 15:59
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Superman should have gotten Zod to chase him then flown around the Earth so fast he goes back in time and flings to Zod into his ship as it gets sucked into the Phantom Zone, then said "Zod had a powerful offense but it was no match for my Zone defense" Either that or Yajirobe cut off Zods tail
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Oct 26, 2020 16:03
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Timeless Appeal posted:I feel like this is a bit exaggerated. Obviously Spider-Man and X-Men were juggernauts, but Iron Man was a pretty big character by 2008. If Marvel Comics from 2006-2009 had a main character, it would be Tony Stark. And I know comics nothing compared to film audiences, but the late 2000s was the age of prestige event comics like Civil War that had heavy press. 2house2fly posted:It calls back to Watchmen, where a powerful man decides to prevent human extinction by killing millions of people to unite the survivors. Halloween Jack fucked around with this message at 16:11 on Oct 26, 2020 |
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Oct 26, 2020 16:08
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2house2fly posted:I guess I get where people are coming from with the Zod thing, because the idea of Superman for a long time was that he was literally the best possible person who could ever exist, and the inspirational thing to do would be to like, prove that he's Superman by turning Zod good so he just flies away or something. This is a really good post
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Oct 26, 2020 17:06
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2house2fly posted:Well, what happens when someone who is morally good meets someone who can only be beaten by doing the morally bad thing of killing them? Who can't just be liberalled away? Hm. RBA Starblade fucked around with this message at 18:27 on Oct 26, 2020 |
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Oct 26, 2020 17:25
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Halloween Jack posted:Not really, no. He engineered a world-historical atrocity to make an incredible amount of money and feel really, really good about himself. Both are true. Veidt "solved" the problem in a way that made him a bunch of money. Don't need to worry about other people's lives when they ain't yours!!!!
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Oct 26, 2020 17:37
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...who's gonna tell him?
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Oct 26, 2020 17:44
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WeedlordGoku69 posted:...you haven't seen Spartacus? yeah Manu Bennett hangs dong multiple times, dude's hung like a loving elephant I thought that was a prop dick.
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Oct 26, 2020 18:23
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Oscar Isaac is Moonknight in the Disney + show.
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Oct 26, 2020 19:06
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PriorMarcus posted:Oscar Isaac is Moonknight in the Disney + show. Like...money is good yeah but I’m surprised he even wanted to touch a comic project or such after Star Wars and Apocalypse
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Oct 26, 2020 19:09
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I'm assuming that, if you're someone who takes acting seriously as a craft, you hear the words "Moon Knight" and you immediately say yes.
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Oct 26, 2020 19:12
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Gatts posted:Like...money is good yeah but I’m surprised he even wanted to touch a comic project or such after Star Wars and Apocalypse Oscar Isaacaine.
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Oct 26, 2020 19:13
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Gatts posted:Like...money is good yeah but I’m surprised he even wanted to touch a comic project or such after Star Wars and Apocalypse Yeah, I thought he was asked if he would ever work with Disney again, and he very very quickly said, "No." So this is kind of surprising. But then again, work is work, and I can't fault a man for taking work with what will soon be the only entertainment company.
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Oct 26, 2020 19:26
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Sir Kodiak posted:I'm assuming that, if you're someone who takes acting seriously as a craft, you hear the words "Moon Knight" and you immediately say yes. Moon Knight has incredible potential, I've said it before and I'll say it again: Darren Aronofsky's Moon Knight is something that I would legit go ga-ga for. Now unfortunately this is Disney, in all likelihood it's going to be a pale shadow of what it could be (pun/metaphor completely intended there) but who knows?
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Oct 26, 2020 19:48
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Sir Kodiak posted:I'm assuming that, if you're someone who takes acting seriously as a craft, you hear the words "Moon Knight" and you immediately say yes. There's a pretty deep well of interesting Moon Knight material if they lean into his being mentally ill rather than playing the "Egyptian god powers" thing straight. Oscar Isaac is usually great in anything he touches so I'd be willing to check it out for him if nothing else.
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Oct 26, 2020 20:16
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Mat Cauthon posted:There's a pretty deep well of interesting Moon Knight material if they lean into his being mentally ill rather than playing the "Egyptian god powers" thing straight. Oscar Isaac is usually great in anything he touches so I'd be willing to check it out for him if nothing else. 
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Oct 26, 2020 20:17
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:I thought that was a prop dick. I've heard it was his actual dick at least once and a prop dick at least once, but I'm not sure which specific scenes are which, and his dick does noticeably change appearance between the two times I remember specifically. Regardless, thing hangs down to his loving knee both times.
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Oct 26, 2020 20:23
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My main concern with a Moon Knight show is if it will be as badly shot and edited as Defenders.
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Oct 26, 2020 20:42
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John Wick of Dogs posted:Either that or Yajirobe cut off Zods tail I think its a weird omission that Dragon Ball Z never ever references Raditz again. He's Goku's actual brother! I mean he's basically Zod.
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Oct 26, 2020 20:50
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WeedlordGoku69 posted:I've heard it was his actual dick at least once and a prop dick at least once, but I'm not sure which specific scenes are which, and his dick does noticeably change appearance between the two times I remember specifically. Regardless, thing hangs down to his loving knee both times. Hmmmm...tell me more about this dick and let’s analyze the footage to deduce what dickery is going on
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Oct 26, 2020 20:56
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 TELL ME ABOUT MEL GIBSON'S DICK AND BALLS
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Oct 26, 2020 21:00
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A friend who worked as a compositor swore she did her best work adjusting something about the bodily dimensions of a high-profile male actor and was furious they'd made her sign an NDA so it couldn't go in her showreel.
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Oct 26, 2020 21:08
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They can't all be Oscar-worthy performances. thrawn527 posted:Yeah, I thought he was asked if he would ever work with Disney again, and he very very quickly said, "No." So this is kind of surprising. But then again, work is work, and I can't fault a man for taking work with what will soon be the only entertainment company. Maybe there's some other stakes we're not privy to though where he's not necessarily flying around having to suck the Disney's/Star Wars' dick at various press events for years straight and that kind of thing. Or maybe he signed on to play Moon Knight like three years ago and he is done with Disney but everything he's doing for them is just now catching up to the point where audiences are aware of it and it's actually getting made. Neo Rasa fucked around with this message at 21:19 on Oct 26, 2020 |
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Oct 26, 2020 21:17
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Aren't all of his performances Oscar-worthy?
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Oct 26, 2020 21:25
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Alexander Hamilton posted:Aren't all of his performances Oscar-worthy? I'd imagine being in some of these roles would make anyone think Isaac.
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Oct 26, 2020 21:46
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Schwarzwald posted:Similarly, that Batman shouldn't have fought the black ops when saving Martha since he ought to be completely non-violent now that he made good with Superman. Good point; and it remains incomprehensible to me that people so inculcated by the morality of particular comic book media have deemed this aspect a plot-hole. Children being fed fairy tales literally have a better sense of justified use of deadly force than this.
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Oct 26, 2020 22:46
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I'll support just about anything that gets us a Moon Knight series or film. ESPECIALLY if they get really violent with it.
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Oct 26, 2020 23:11
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Funny thing it's normally Metallo or a rogue Superman robot that's DC's go-to Terminator impersonator. I'd prefer the John Corben mercernary version where he's maimed until being rebuilt with metal and Kryptonite. Maybe have him be a victim of the end of the Man of Steel catalycism. Give him a personality and a real grudge, and maybe have Batman realize where his paranoia and hatred could take him. Also the cartoon gave him a cool Australian accent
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Oct 26, 2020 23:55
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Which cartoon? Malcolm McDowell is as English as you can normally get.
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Oct 27, 2020 00:03
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Macdeo Lurjtux posted:Which cartoon? Malcolm McDowell is as English as you can normally get. lol you're right https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBnBUebT6nw
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Oct 27, 2020 00:05
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Ghost Leviathan posted:The endpoint of this twisted line of logic is clearly that Leonidas should be in Mortal Kombat. You say that like it's wrong or something. josh04 posted:Ridiculous to suggest that the film would have dared leave out this central aspect of the classic character, Iron Man:  More characters should have roller skates.
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Oct 27, 2020 01:43
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WeedlordGoku69 posted:I've heard it was his actual dick at least once and a prop dick at least once, but I'm not sure which specific scenes are which, and his dick does noticeably change appearance between the two times I remember specifically. Regardless, thing hangs down to his loving knee both times. There is a CGI dick in the first season, on a gaul who's only in that one episode. It's CGI because they also wanted it to be cut off at the end of the episode. Spartacus is a really hosed up show. It's great.
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Oct 27, 2020 05:28
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Shageletic posted:lol you're right drat, it's easy to forget how much the DCAU got away with. Also the little things, like Superman's heat vision sputtering for a second as he's recovering from the Kryptonite.
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Oct 27, 2020 06:59
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josh04 posted:A friend who worked as a compositor swore she did her best work adjusting something about the bodily dimensions of a high-profile male actor and was furious they'd made her sign an NDA so it couldn't go in her showreel. Brandon Routh's bulge was apparently digitally reduced for Superman Returns.
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Oct 27, 2020 15:42
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Brandon Routh: Please keep my massive hog a secret, no one can know
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Oct 27, 2020 16:00
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