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Fenarisk posted:One of the things this pandemic has brought to the forefront of America is that people just don't understand what a hobby is. I've encountered a lot of people that have given up on social distancing because they "just need to get out and do something". Been under lockdown for a couple of weeks now. Fridays and Saturdays evening have been catching up with friends over chat, playing various online games, watching bad b-grade movies, whatever. during weekdays often catch up with friends online to do Yoga/exercise stuff and then talk afterwards. Also had quite a few long phone calls with mates been meaning to catch up with for a while. Would, you know prefer to be seeing them face to face but honestly it hasn't been to rough. Can't wait to be able to have a trip to the beach or bush again for a bit of swimming and hiking, or see some live music with mates, but never found myself bored, and when ever I felt like talking to someone, at least one of my mates would usually be online. I can imagine it would be a lot harder for people who can't do video chat/don't have the option to do it regularly. Without the internet the time would of been a hell of a lot harder.
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I hate to be the bringer of bad news. But a lot of hobbies... Well, require other people.
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Fenarisk posted:One of the things this pandemic has brought to the forefront of America is that people just don't understand what a hobby is. I've encountered a lot of people that have given up on social distancing because they "just need to get out and do something". Yeah I also recently realized that massive amounts of time and energy are spent on finding a mate and creating children, as a whole, by society Not even joking Hobbies are really the exception, not the rule
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cross-posting from the C-SPAM thread: Why are case numbers so high in Switzerland, you ask? https://www.tagblatt.ch/ostschweiz/...zdem-ld.1271680 quote:Superspreader wedding in Schwellbrunn - Ausserrhoden Health Director Balmer: "In the worst case, the community could be sealed off". Basically, some people are loving ASSHOLES who just cannot stop ~living their lives~ and now their communites are absolutely hosed. Great timing on this at least, it's come out before the big presser by the feds on Wednesday so hopefully they just shut everything down and name and shame these pricks and others like them. Oh hahah of course that won't happen because super chud fuckface Ueli Maurer is the loving finance minister (and head of the SVP/UDP fuckbrigade) and he complained at their annual conference that people were being disappeared just for having "wrong opinions" (ie anti-mask protests were being broken up) so you can all look forward to me melting down in two days' time.
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Several guests with corona symptoms took part in the event. Distance and hygiene measures were not observed. Although the bridal couple knew about it, they had not contacted us."
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greazeball posted:cross-posting from the C-SPAM thread: Yeah, this is really incredible. If you want to see more Swiss people being very dumb, come to the Germany discussion thread. As a bonus, you can also see a lot of Germans being very dumb. We as a species just need to show discipline for (hopefully!) around 18 months to get through this without a ton of unnecessary deaths, but we're just incapable of doing this.
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I'm actually not terribly surprised by that news story. I love Switzerland and I love the Swiss people, but as a populace they easily reached American levels in their "I refuse to live any other way than the way I'm used to" energy. This mostly took the form of elderly Swiss not wanting to give citizenship to Muslims who wore sweatpants, or adapt school curriculums to people uncomfortable with swim classes, but I've been kind of waiting for the second shoe to drop as I know this time of year starts to get wild with local festivals and parties in Zurich. EDIT: But also, LOL, of course it's Appenzell. It's always Appenzell. Anonymous Zebra fucked around with this message at 21:55 on Oct 26, 2020 |
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Being a horrible introvert would be much easier living on your own but let me tell you, as someone who has a partner who is not at all an introvert, most of my stress from being cooped up at home has been due to helping her manage her anxiety due to not being able to go places and feeling like we're trapped. I'd happily sit at home and work during the day and play dumb poo poo on the computer at night until they give me the all clear (a year from now, maybe, lol) but I'm not on my own anymore so yeah it's been kind of tough in that regard.
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explosivo posted:Being a horrible introvert would be much easier living on your own but let me tell you, as someone who has a partner who is not at all an introvert, most of my stress from being cooped up at home has been due to helping her manage her anxiety due to not being able to go places and feeling like we're trapped. I'd happily sit at home and work during the day and play dumb poo poo on the computer at night until they give me the all clear (a year from now, maybe, lol) but I'm not on my own anymore so yeah it's been kind of tough in that regard. My situation exactly. Not a big deal to me, enormous deal for her.
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Mithaldu posted:i never understood how abnormal my ability to stay inside for weeks at a time is until now Yeah this 'humans are social creatures and intrinsically desire contact' thing rings completely hollow to me. I have never felt that inclination at all. If your natural inclinations and urges as a human being are bothering you then just... Ignore them?
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I was a shut in hermit for almost two years by choice at first and still I enjoyed seeing people once in a while. Only now did I realize that kind of fascinating duality makes me such a silly weirdo, but also kinda cool and mysterious in my own way.
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some people desire face to face contact, some people  but that's still a social activity
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Torrannor posted:We as a species just need to show discipline for (hopefully!) around 18 months to get through this without a ton of unnecessary deaths, but we're just incapable of doing this. Lol, Americans can't even do 18 days. 
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Annabel Pee posted:Are there actually places that got rid of the virus and went back to normal? Like New Zealand have they just ran as normal since or do they still have precautions? nz is effectively back to normal. the govt recommends people mask up when you can't physical distance, but no one does. people have mostly stopped scanning the covid tracer app barcode (required in every business) which is about the lowest effort thing you could possibly do and then every time there's a scare or community case, half the population freaks out and rushes to get tested e: apart from the tourism industry, which is utterly hosed
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CJacobs posted:Yeah this 'humans are social creatures and intrinsically desire contact' thing rings completely hollow to me. I have never felt that inclination at all. If your natural inclinations and urges as a human being are bothering you then just... Ignore them? You can only ignore mental distress for so long before it starts to take a toll. Just because you're wired such that not socializing doesn't bother you, that doesn't mean other people can.
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There Bias Two posted:You can only ignore mental distress for so long before it starts to take a toll. Just because you're wired such that not socializing doesn't bother you, that doesn't mean other people can. I would say that having so little self control that you go stir crazy even when you can still go outside and see friends in private pretty much safely is more than being 'wired differently'. You're not locked in your house like it's silent hill or something, if you're antsy about a lack of human contact then go somewhere. Go to a friend's house (1 friend). Go to the park or go for a walk. Go anywhere except a restaurant. This notion that you need to go out to a public space to socialize is another hurdle keeping the virus around. CJacobs fucked around with this message at 23:26 on Oct 26, 2020 |
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CJacobs posted:Yeah this 'humans are social creatures and intrinsically desire contact' thing rings completely hollow to me. I have never felt that inclination at all. If your natural inclinations and urges as a human being are bothering you then just... Ignore them? This is a very odd and non-empathetic response to human nature.
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Mrs. Sexual posted:This is a very odd and non-empathetic response to human nature. gently caress you burt
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CJacobs posted:gently caress you burt
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CJacobs posted:I would say that having so little self control that you go stir crazy even when you can still go outside and see friends in private pretty much safely is more than being 'wired differently'. You're not locked in your house like it's silent hill or something, if you're antsy about a lack of human contact then go somewhere. Go to a friend's house (1 friend). Go to the park or go for a walk. Go anywhere except a restaurant. This notion that you need to go out to a public space to socialize is another hurdle keeping the virus around. What are you talking about? Plenty of us aren't visiting with *anyone* or going *anywhere*. I don't trust anyone I normally socialize with to properly distance themselves from others, and public spaces around here are too full of anti-maskers to be worth risking.
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Anonymous Zebra posted:I'm actually not terribly surprised by that news story. I love Switzerland and I love the Swiss people, but as a populace they easily reached American levels in their "I refuse to live any other way than the way I'm used to" energy. This mostly took the form of elderly Swiss not wanting to give citizenship to Muslims who wore sweatpants, or adapt school curriculums to people uncomfortable with swim classes, but I've been kind of waiting for the second shoe to drop as I know this time of year starts to get wild with local festivals and parties in Zurich. we've finally identified the tennessee of switzerland
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greazeball posted:we've finally identified the tennessee of switzerland In Switzerland the mountain valleys aren't called hollers, they're called yodels
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I concede maybe I'm just not super social face to face. I run my tabeltop game via webcam for friends once a week, two nights a week I have my basement set up like a club and just jam out, and I've started learning music production so everything else in the world is less frustrating in comparison. But then again I'm at work around 40 hours a week talking to people all day so without that maybe I would go nuts.
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how do i socialize w/o bar bwuhhhh duhhhhhh *ignores an entire world of redditors to share cam pics with*
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CJacobs posted:I would say that having so little self control that you go stir crazy even when you can still go outside and see friends in private pretty much safely is more than being 'wired differently'. You're not locked in your house like it's silent hill or something, if you're antsy about a lack of human contact then go somewhere. Go to a friend's house (1 friend). Go to the park or go for a walk. Go anywhere except a restaurant. This notion that you need to go out to a public space to socialize is another hurdle keeping the virus around. Why do you think it's ok to see that 1 friend? Why is that safe? Why is that the line? How do you know who they have been exposed to? If you're social distancing you aren't doing that. I see my boyfriend as my sole cohort, but I also do my laundry at his house and that spares me myriad other points of contact vs going to a laundromat. So that's my 1. And through him alone I have at least another dozen points of exposure because of who he's exposed to. I'm not seeing a friend or seeing my family or going to holiday gatherings or going to be able to celebrate my birthday or Christmas or whatever with anyone. I can't just drop by my sister's place to see her any more, and my sister claims she was "being smart" with only seeing a couple friends outside and had to isolate. I got to see my mom once a few months ago outside for a bit but I can't in good conscience go visit her got the holidays or her birthday or anything like that. And it's not just my mom it's everyone in my life And it kind of blows I don't trust people willing to socialize to follow safe approaches because as we should know by reading this thread visiting people indoors is not safe in this pandemic Fenarisk posted:I concede maybe I'm just not super social face to face. I run my tabeltop game via webcam for friends once a week, two nights a week I have my basement set up like a club and just jam out, and I've started learning music production so everything else in the world is less frustrating in comparison. I didn't realize how much that filled my socialization needs until that was totally gone. Having a few people to chat and smile with every day makes a big difference. I'm on the phone all day with working from home and it exhausts me to the point I don't want to talk to another soul the whole day despite being lonely as gently caress.
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Rat posted:Are you seeing people in person at work? Yeah I'm in rehab so it's all face to face (mask to mask with goggles actually) one on one with patients plus everyone else working at the hospital.
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The painbox is not going out to eat and goons hold the gomjabar to ur neck and ask if youre an animal or a man
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Rat posted:Why do you think it's ok to see that 1 friend? Why is that safe? Why is that the line? How do you know who they have been exposed to? Of course it's not 100% safe, but it's a lot safer than going out in public wholesale and you're saying that being cut off from everyone is taking a large toll on you. If you and a very limited number of your friends can agree to seeing each other periodically you dramatically reduce your risk of infecting each other because you roll the dice fewer times. It's an increase in that risk, to offset the mental toll you're saying you have from not being able to see anyone. You have to weigh up whether the risk is worth the gain. This is basically the UK concept of 'support bubbles'. It's an acceptance that some increased spread is on-balance a better trade-off than the mental anguish of complete isolation.
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Imagine it like rolling dice. Every person you meet hands you a 6-sided die. You roll and if you roll a 1 you lose. You meet one person and they give you 1 die. Well okay let's roll, chances are 1 in 6 but whatever, seems pretty okay right. But if you meet 5 people you suddenly have 5 dice and you still lose if you roll a single 1. The odds for rolling a 1 are the same for every die, but would really want to roll 5 or 10 dice instead of just 1? And that's overly simplified because everyone you meet would have to give you a number of dice based on their exposure risk and the numbers that make you lose go up depending on overall spread of the virus in your area etc. Don't roll the dice, stay at home and hunker down. It sucks for all of us.
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Hopper posted:Imagine it like rolling dice. If the decision is between "go and visit a small group of friends that are also only visiting between the same group of friends", and "go so insane staying home alone that you think a 200-person wedding sounds like a good idea", probably going and hanging out with your friends is the better plan.
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Jabor posted:If the decision is between "go and visit a small group of friends that are also only visiting between the same group of friends", and "go so insane staying home alone that you think a 200-person wedding sounds like a good idea", probably going and hanging out with your friends is the better plan. i have my doubts that anyone "goes" that insane, but most likely people who make such decisions were pretty deranged before covid already for example i've met a lot of people who's ONLY thought is "oh that's what the numbers say, and the personal risk to MYSELF from an infection is like 1 in 1000 so it's all fine" and disregard the risk to OTHERS of themselves being a spreader no matter how often you correct them when they say the egotistical thing i'm pretty sure such a dysfunction of logic doesn't suddenly grow from being in quarantine (especially when they haven't been quarantining hard in the first place) but is just a consequence of their overall capabilities and biases Mithaldu fucked around with this message at 12:03 on Oct 27, 2020 |
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other people posted:heck no im going to party hard Superb username/post combo
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Do some people really sit at home with 0 contact with outside world? What are you, a millionaire without a job?
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Colonel Cancer posted:Do some people really sit at home with 0 contact with outside world? What are you, a millionaire without a job? I was going to the gas station for cigarettes every 2 days. I quit smoking maybe 3 days ago and haven't left my place during that time. I can't find a reason to go out now until I need to go grocery shopping. But I'm really stocked up right now. The cigs are what really got me outside for 5 minutes. Now I have no reason to go out. I know a lot of goons in here were completely isolating themselves for weeks and even my cripplingly depressed self probably would have a hard time with that. But we'll see now that I don't need to go to the gas station. I'll probably find some reason to do something which yes, I know is incredibly stupid, but killing my bipolar self is a constant threat and I don't know if I wanna try that again.
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The nice little restaurant I get takeout from is packed while we're on the verge of another lockdown, here in europe's hotspot. Idk how people feel safe in a place where you're elbow to elbow with strangers. No attempt to remove tables or anything to have less patrons.
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Colonel Cancer posted:Do some people really sit at home with 0 contact with outside world? What are you, a millionaire without a job? i have a job that can be done effectively 100% via chat and email and local grocery stores have a solid delivery system
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Pennywise the Frown posted:I quit smoking maybe 3 days ago Congrats, man.
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Hopper posted:Imagine it like rolling dice. Dude if you're not a computer janitor you have to roll the dice to live. I don't know why some of you think the majority of people have a choice in this.
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