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TheRat posted:Aren't most actual SUVs pretty much designed to kill other people in traffic in an effort to keep you marginally safer? I think about this whenever conversations about self-driving cars come up. There'll be papers in AI and philosophy journals about oooh the ethical complications of a car that has to choose whether to swerve to avoid the pedestrian or ensure that the driver is never at risk of injury. But those decisions are already being made! They're just baked in to the design of the car rather than the logic of the computer.
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BizarroAzrael posted:THANK gently caress tiny tins of fizzy drink with mr blobby on the tiny tin posters of 1990s Brad Pitts in just pants proper fairy lights that all go out if one bulb blows and everyone has a great old time testing all the bulbs with one of the replacement bulbs in the little pack of replacement bulbs that comes included with the proper fairy lights 
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Oct 27, 2020 11:52
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Lets steal some loving pick 'n mix.
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Oct 27, 2020 12:01
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Strom Cuzewon posted:I think about this whenever conversations about self-driving cars come up. There'll be papers in AI and philosophy journals about oooh the ethical complications of a car that has to choose whether to swerve to avoid the pedestrian or ensure that the driver is never at risk of injury. But those decisions are already being made! They're just baked in to the design of the car rather than the logic of the computer. Yes and it's the legal complications that will stop self driving cars under capitalism and nothing else. If having AI means the car manufacturer is at fault for a crash then they won't have AI, if it's always the fault of the driver for not leaping into action manually no matter what the AI does then they'll put them in.
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pippy posted:Lets steal some loving pick 'n mix. perfect post/avatar combination, there https://twitter.com/Keir_Starmer/status/1316075747312898051
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Oct 27, 2020 12:09
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OwlFancier posted:Uh, why? On my occasional forays outdoors I have been shocked to see a lot of new shops opening. It seems bonkers to me - surely this is the worst time to open a shop ever? The only explanation I can consider is that maybe the pandemic has collapsed retail property prices so they're capitalising on the low prices to open and then just hold on until this all blows over. Should have guessed that even a global pandemic can't stop gentrification.
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Oct 27, 2020 12:11
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Oct 27, 2020 12:25
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Buying a new car on PCP is quite a good idea if you haggle effectively, but most critically if the APR is decent. If you can get a 0% deal with a deposit contribution (which, sometimes, you can- so long as you don’t go for a prestige brand) you’re not quite even paying for the depreciation. I’ve happily done it a couple of times now after getting burned spending way more fixing my old car than it was worth. Getting a Range Rover or a Beemer or something at 8% is a complete mug’s game though. Looking at second-hand vans at the minute, if holidays are going to be domestic for a while I want to be able to fit camping gear, dog, family and baby/toddler gear in a vehicle...
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Oct 27, 2020 12:33
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Beefeater1980 posted:Leave Major out of this he was ok. Major was Thatcher's pet. She made him Foreign Secretary and then Chancellor of the Exchequer despite little former experience. He supported her in the first leadership round. He put himself forward, with her support, only after she had resigned, and was her preferred successor. He referred to the Eurosceptics as bastards once. That's the limit of his merits. He was all on board the 'loot the state and squeeze the poor' train.
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Oh dear me posted:He was all on board the 'loot the state and squeeze the poor' train.
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Oct 27, 2020 12:39
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Filboid Studge posted:Buying a new car on PCP is quite a good idea it'll definitely be fun in the moment, though I question if it'll really help you make good long-term financial decisions
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Oct 27, 2020 12:42
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My second car was on PCP, but only because my parents were getting one at the same time so they allowed me to trade in my lovely 1997 Corsa that had been recently valued at... £50, and get a brand new car as part of a package deal. Since then I've just been trading in every 3/4 years without paying the lump sum because 1) I'm stupid and 2) I like shiny things. I'm fully aware that I could get a second hand car that's probably better spec for cheaper.
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Angepain posted:waluigi should be in every game. we will alter the timeline until this is the case. waaaaaaah 
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Oct 27, 2020 12:49
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Borrovan posted:ngl the few times I've had cause to hire a transit van I've really enjoyed driving, you get to sit upright like you're at a dining table & the views are nice Yeah I've always found it wierdly fun too and the extra height does make everything around look more picturesque. Like you can suddenly see over the hedges and barriers and get some proper nice views. If I ever had the space to keep it I'd definitely get a transit almost as a toy/affectation and jump on any excuse to use it, "oh you're moving in two months? i'll bring the van round, we'll do it over a few trips and eat pizza in the cab it'll be fun" type stuff. Keep a few tools I don't know how to use in the back, far too many packing blankets and straps, those lame LED light strips stuck to the roof, it'd be great.
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Filboid Studge posted:Buying a new car on PCP is quite a good idea 
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Oct 27, 2020 13:14
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Comrade Fakename posted:On my occasional forays outdoors I have been shocked to see a lot of new shops opening. It seems bonkers to me - surely this is the worst time to open a shop ever? The only explanation I can consider is that maybe the pandemic has collapsed retail property prices so they're capitalising on the low prices to open and then just hold on until this all blows over. Should have guessed that even a global pandemic can't stop gentrification. This is happening up on the High St near me: another Coffee Shop on a road where every third place sells coffee, and a Greek takeaway replacing a Japanese place that failed, next door to a kebab shop I've never seen any customers in. I don't know how you'd look at it and think yeah this is gonna be a massive success with a cafe next door, a dedicated coffee shop 3 doors down and a Nero 1 min walk away from that, and that's just on that side of the street. What would Woolworths possibly sell Wilko/Poundland doesn't?
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Oct 27, 2020 13:27
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Oct 27, 2020 13:30
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We've just had another Beauty Parlour open. I have no idea what made people think that Sheerness needs another beauty parlour. The car of the person running it has a number plate that's a fair attempt at 'Boss Babe', and is a giant, white, SUV.
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Oct 27, 2020 13:37
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Angrymog posted:We've just had another Beauty Parlour open. I have no idea what made people think that Sheerness needs another beauty parlour. 'Shop' shops are dead on the high street. Products can and will be bought cheaper online and the pandemic has accelerated what was an inevitable death by forcing people who wouldnt usually shop online into doing this. Most won't go back. What you're left with is destination shops and places that sell things you need to physically see/experience. Think Furniture/department stores. You're still going to go to Ikea to buy a table because you're never quite sure if you'll like the one on that website etc. Service shops however are absolutely booming. Hairdressers, beauty parlours, coffee shops. Thats what the high street is going to be going forwards.
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Oct 27, 2020 13:43
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Angrymog posted:We've just had another Beauty Parlour open. I have no idea what made people think that Sheerness needs another beauty parlour. Same reason people keep opening platform shoe stores next to Tom Cruise's house
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Oct 27, 2020 13:43
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Oct 27, 2020 13:46
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I'm guessing a significant proportion of service shops are money laundering operations anyway. Would not be at all surprised if a service shop opening in the middle of a pandemic and run by a particularly ostentatious person is primarily concerned with moving money around and the shop is only a front.
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Oct 27, 2020 13:48
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Apparently the Woolworth news is fake. Sad! https://twitter.com/LBC/status/1321072119418130432
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Angrymog posted:We've just had another Beauty Parlour open. I have no idea what made people think that Sheerness needs another beauty parlour. Have you *seen* the people in Sheerness? Beauty parlours, nail bars and vape shops are the current default "Can be set up with minimal capital with high enough margins to make it vaguely likely to be a success" retail idea - in days gone by it was hairdressers, mobile phone repair/unlocking shops, internet cafes, that sort of thing. Basically a business that can be run by only one person at the start but relatively easily ramp up to 3 or 4 people, selling stuff that is tricky or impossible to sell online, with the only stock required being stuff that can be easily sold on wholesale at minimal loss if it all goes to poo poo. They're a pretty useful barometer for the economic health of an area - the evolution starts from pawn shops/lenders, through those sort of personal-service shops, then the chains start turning up and destroy them all. Most high streets seem to have regressed from that third stage to the second of late. Of course the darker alternate path is the "quirky" coffee shops and estate agents start turning up. If left unchecked eventually every shop will either be the sort of clothes shop that has a name from a book the owner hasn't read and a single Chuck Taylor in the window, a "throw darts at a world map" fusion restaurant, or a place selling furniture salvaged from the shops that used to be there with a 10,000% markup.
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Flayer posted:I'm guessing a significant proportion of service shops are money laundering operations anyway. Would not be at all surprised if a service shop opening in the middle of a pandemic and run by a particularly ostentatious person is primarily concerned with moving money around and the shop is only a front. Bit like the Antiques/Carpet shop just up from The Forum in Kentish Town, that I've also never seen anyone in, ever, and has had the same tat in the windows for well over 5 years if not more. That's totally a front.
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DesperateDan posted:whoever did the "he spent ages signalling left and then made a hard right" thanks, I stole it and got some likes on twitter I stole it from someone wittier than me on Twitter anyway, so... you're welcome?
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Not So Fast posted:Apparently the Woolworth news is fake. Sad! I feel like the word 'hoax' has lost all meaning.
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Flayer posted:I'm guessing a significant proportion of service shops are money laundering operations anyway. Would not be at all surprised if a service shop opening in the middle of a pandemic and run by a particularly ostentatious person is primarily concerned with moving money around and the shop is only a front. See I miss the days when all the shops along Columbia Road were money-laundering fronts for the Adams family (no not the fun ones with Raul Julia). If you could get in the hour or so a week they were open you could pick up fruit and veg really loving cheap. Them all getting seized and sold off (along with Temperance Works and a bunch of other places on the Hoxton/Shoreditch hinterland) was one of the big things that sparked off the hyper-gentrification I was allluding to in my other post - every shop now is still only open an hour a week but is instead owned by a Trustafarian who is using daddy's money to run their shop selling Japanese import flexidisk recordings of advertising jingles for a few years before they get made head of Channel 4, get their own column in the Spectator, or go back to manage the family agribusiness. It's soul-laundering, not money-laundering, that's going on - they can all pretend that they've got hard experience of the real world when they tell their workers that they now have to pay for their own ventilation in the pigshit lagoon.
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Goldskull posted:Bit like the Antiques/Carpet shop just up from The Forum in Kentish Town, that I've also never seen anyone in, ever, and has had the same tat in the windows for well over 5 years if not more. That's totally a front. Glad it’s not just me thinking this. There used to be a place on the High St (I think it’s Boucherie Moderne now) that my wife always referred to as ‘The Drugs Shop’- open in the small hours but with barely any stock and people who gave you evils if you ever went in.
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Flayer posted:I'm guessing a significant proportion of service shops are money laundering operations anyway. Would not be at all surprised if a service shop opening in the middle of a pandemic and run by a particularly ostentatious person is primarily concerned with moving money around and the shop is only a front. Possibly - it wasn't an easy conversion from the framing shop to a beauty place though. Looks like they've moved from Dartford. maybe it was a consolation prize for having to move to Sheerness? There was something definitely dodgy going on with one of the cafes though.
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Oh dear me posted:Major was Thatcher's pet. She made him Foreign Secretary and then Chancellor of the Exchequer despite little former experience. He supported her in the first leadership round. He put himself forward, with her support, only after she had resigned, and was her preferred successor. Disagree on this one: Thatcher promoted him because he was good at numbers and didn’t gently caress things up; he presented himself as her successor to give her a graceful way out and then pursued, and this is what I would think would matter in this thread, policies that were materially different to Thatcher’s (while loudly claiming it was just continuing the Thatcher revolution, don’t look over here, etc). He also dumped the idea that the leader should have a cult of personality (which Blair cheerfully resurrected), made concessions that his own party hated to Sinn Fein (for which Blair, leading Labour which didn’t particularly hate the concessions, claimed credit), took the hit of the ERM loving up our currency in the interests of trying to make the EU work, and generally took the view of being a caretaker of the country not a visionary leader. I like that because I think “visionary leaders” universally suck. Corbyn never claimed to be a visionary. The bad is that he didn’t pursue socialist policies but that’s a strong ask from a Tory PM. Overall IMO he got Gorbachev’d.
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Goldskull posted:Bit like the Antiques/Carpet shop just up from The Forum in Kentish Town, that I've also never seen anyone in, ever, and has had the same tat in the windows for well over 5 years if not more. That's totally a front. You'd be surprised, there used to be a shop like that on Commercial Road in Stepney just across from Limehouse station that turned out to be... not a front as such, but basically the owner had inherited their dad's greengrocers in the 80s which included the flat upstairs. He had no interest in running a shop but basically it worked out the cost of business rates+residential rates was less than the residential rates on a larger house+planning permission for change of use, especially as he could reclaim VAT on most of his purchases. There were a couple of "antiques" in the window that basically never changed until he eventually sold up to a company that bought the entire block for redevelopment. Alas it went away just before Google Street View became a thing so I can't show you it, but it was a kinda weird landmark, especially as every other shop along there had been empty (apart from a minicab office) for *years* - it's one of those weird pockets of antigentrification that you still find occasionally in the East End.
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My wife used to live next door to a kebab shop in Nottingham that was only ever open for around 2 hours a day, and their customer demographic was almost exclusively taxi drivers who'd buy all their takeaway in opaque paper bags. Guess who sold most of the drugs around the city! (to us students anyway)
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In my town, there are 3 women's hairdressers within 40 m of each other on the same block. And the rate at which 'turkish barbers - with hot towels!' (I don't really get it but then I'm not a guy wanting hipster hair dos) keep opening up is astonishing. I did feel sorry for one, he spent ages fitting out a shop, proudly opened on March 16th..... but he still seems to be eeking out a living when we're not in lockdown though I hardly ever see anyone in there. I guess drinking coffee and having beauty treatments are about the only things you can't do over the internet!
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Camrath posted:Glad it’s not just me thinking this. Heh. I miss Crazy Corner across from the station, that never seems open anymore. Was always good for a late night purchase and it always seemed like the owners son was having a party in there weekend nights. They were always welcoming, but I'm pretty sure I'm the only person in the last 3 years that's ever bought wine from there given the amount of dust on the bottles.
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:In my town, there are 3 women's hairdressers within 40 m of each other on the same block. @JA I thought you were in Cairo but maybe am behind the times?
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Beefeater1980 posted:Disagree on this one: Thatcher promoted him because he was good at numbers His big break was when she made him Foreign Secretary. Besides, Thatcher was an ideologue who did not favour politically divergent people just because they were numerate. I don't doubt Major was secretly less Thatcherite than Thatcher thought. But he was sufficiently Thatcherite to go along her convincingly while that was convenient.
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