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ObamaAkbar.
Apr 7, 2009

DesiredPopulationMin = 3
DesiredPopulationMax = 19
AverageDeathsPerDay = 6
WeaponsUsed = 13



forkboy84 posted:

Taskmaster is the only comedy show in the last 10 years I can actually say I enjoy & go out of my way to watch.

I’ve only just gotten into it, going through the old seasons now as well, some of the contestants are hit or miss but Greg seems to always pull some humour out of anything even when they are poo poo

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Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012
Probation
Can't post for 4 hours!
Grimey Drawer

Communist Thoughts posted:

itd be nice to have a left wing news site with a bit of comedy and edge

they seem to all either be "obviously bad thing is bad - heres why," or awkwardly hopeful about labour and big essays on something that would be good if it could possibly happen which it cant
tone wise they all seem to be cargo culting news or clickbait

i guess maybe you couldn't get a good paper out of "lol shits completely hosed but we're going to laugh our last breaths at these pathetic monsters"

Yeah you've just discussed everything wrong with the huffington post which constantly sends headlines to my ipad. I have no idea why. I don't actually read it.

It's always 'Boris Johnson seems a bit sus, maybe someone should say something' and 'MP said X but actually it's not X! They LIED!'

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

Communist Thoughts posted:

itd be nice to have a left wing news site with a bit of comedy and edge

they seem to all either be "obviously bad thing is bad - heres why," or awkwardly hopeful about labour and big essays on something that would be good if it could possibly happen which it cant
tone wise they all seem to be cargo culting news or clickbait

i guess maybe you couldn't get a good paper out of "lol shits completely hosed but we're going to laugh our last breaths at these pathetic monsters"

I mean that's basically Twitter with the right follows.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

goddamnedtwisto posted:

drat straight. Now let me explain how any "road tax" should be charged as a function of footprint and axle loading to reflect the actual usage of/damage to roads and the pillory needs to be bought back for people who drop diesel on the roads.

I mean that broadly is an excellent justification for why bikes clearly shouldn't pay road tax because you could have the entirety of london doing laps of the M25 on pushbikes and they would never wear it out.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

OwlFancier posted:

I mean that broadly is an excellent justification for why bikes clearly shouldn't pay road tax because you could have the entirety of london doing laps of the M25 on pushbikes and they would never wear it out.

I'm fine with that, although I will admit to one slightly gammony opinion about cyclists - that they should have mandatory TPO insurance if they're on the road, although I'm fine with having it funded by the state.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

I mean I think insurance is stupid and the things it is needed for should be covered by the state for everyone anyway.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
Just RAF all vehicles.

Whether that means establish a state fund to cover all third party insurance, attack them from above with Brimstone missiles, or ambush them outside banks and kill any bankers inside is for the policymakers to decide.

Z the IVth
Jan 28, 2009

The trouble with your "expendable machines"
Fun Shoe

Guavanaut posted:

Just RAF all vehicles.

Whether that means establish a state fund to cover all third party insurance, attack them from above with Brimstone missiles, or ambush them outside banks and kill any bankers inside is for the policymakers to decide.

Imagine the Roadworks though if you have to clean up after a Brimstone strike. Maybe try those blade missiles the Yanks have. Then you can just hose the area down afterwards.

More job opportunities I suppose.

big scary monsters
Sep 2, 2011

-~Skullwave~-

OwlFancier posted:

I mean that broadly is an excellent justification for why bikes clearly shouldn't pay road tax because you could have the entirety of london doing laps of the M25 on pushbikes and they would never wear it out.

The vast majority of UK cyclists are also drivers so they are probably paying road tax while not even damaging the road and causing traffic and pollution with their car. If anything they have more of a right to the road than someone driving.

e:

goddamnedtwisto posted:

I'm fine with that, although I will admit to one slightly gammony opinion about cyclists - that they should have mandatory TPO insurance if they're on the road, although I'm fine with having it funded by the state.

I really can't imagine that cyclists are causing enough damage in accidents for this to be worthwhile (as a group, there is probably the very occasional freak accident that results in significant damage or injury). I'd rather have Dutch-style strict liability where drivers are assumed at fault in all collisions - you decide to take a tonne and a half of high-speed metal on the road, you are accepting the responsibility of putting everyone else who uses those roads at risk.

big scary monsters fucked around with this message at 10:53 on Oct 28, 2020

BizarroAzrael
Apr 6, 2006

"That must weigh heavily on your soul. Let me purge it for you."
Johnny Vegas directed socialist kaiju film when?

Walton Simons
May 16, 2010

ELECTRONIC OLD MEN RUNNING THE WORLD

Really can't wait for this to appear on Dashcam Youtube.

Borrovan
Aug 15, 2013

IT IS ME.
🧑‍💼
I AM THERESA MAY


Private Speech posted:

Not actually print (sorry I know) but "the canary" and "the conversation" are occasionally decent, the latter is pretty lib though.

e: added links
The latter is written entirely by academics, who do lean lib but at least are generally writing about poo poo they actually have expertise in. I've written in it, can confirm I'm not a lib

Borrovan
Aug 15, 2013

IT IS ME.
🧑‍💼
I AM THERESA MAY


I clicked on this & it showed me this other very thread-relevant tweet:
https://mobile.twitter.com/HKesvani/status/1321029520980324353
Just gonna go right out & say it, swap that shite underneath for something resembling curry & yeh I would definitely eat that fascist mess

And have the curry for pudding if I was still hungry

The Perfect Element
Dec 5, 2005
"This is a bit of a... a poof song"
To whoever said that it's important to keep tabs on what people you disagree with are saying on Facebook... It really loving isn't.

As soon as you scratch below the surface in virtually any group you just get this ugly, frothing sea of blind racism and anger. And there's nothing you can do about any of it.

Getting rid of Facebook has been amazing for my mental health, because you don't end up going down those rabbit holes.

Z the IVth
Jan 28, 2009

The trouble with your "expendable machines"
Fun Shoe

Knowing you were not at fault is a great comfort when you're dead or maimed.

Being in cycle central UK, I regularly see cyclists breeze through red lights on busy junctions without even bothering to check the exits, cycle down unlit roads at night without lights, go the wrong way down roads (and cycle paths!) and cycle with noise-cancelling headphones. Intrinsically I feel that abrogating them of all responsibility for their behaviour in the absence of any other measures (traffic segregation) is just going to encourage stupid behaviour without making any material change in outcomes.

Pistol_Pete
Sep 15, 2007

Oven Wrangler
Yeah, there's a lot of not-very-good leftie news sites out there being run on shoestring budgets, full of hastily-written, preaching to the converted articles about Bad thing is Bad or dumb Twitter bullshit and stuff. The Byline Times seems more thoughtful and in depth and I'm thinking about subscribing to that.

Ratjaculation
Aug 3, 2007

:parrot::parrot::parrot:



Comedy chat

I've been enjoying Ghosts on the Beeb. I wasn't expecting much since everyone my mum was raving about it, but its a genuinely good comedy

Best british comedy since My Family

Strom Cuzewon
Jul 1, 2010

Borrovan posted:

I clicked on this & it showed me this other very thread-relevant tweet:
https://mobile.twitter.com/HKesvani/status/1321029520980324353
Just gonna go right out & say it, swap that shite underneath for something resembling curry & yeh I would definitely eat that fascist mess

And have the curry for pudding if I was still hungry

They look a little too cooked for my tastes, but that's a moderately competent poached egg at least.

Did Loomer have an almost identical awful-meal-but-competent-poached-egg picture a few weeks back? Is this some weird signal? Are poached eggs the new ok sign?

Private Speech
Mar 30, 2011

I HAVE EVEN MORE WORTHLESS BEANIE BABIES IN MY COLLECTION THAN I HAVE WORTHLESS POSTS IN THE BEANIE BABY THREAD YET I STILL HAVE THE TEMERITY TO CRITICIZE OTHERS' COLLECTIONS

IF YOU SEE ME TALKING ABOUT BEANIE BABIES, PLEASE TELL ME TO

EAT. SHIT.


Communist Thoughts posted:

itd be nice to have a left wing news site with a bit of comedy and edge

they seem to all either be "obviously bad thing is bad - heres why," or awkwardly hopeful about labour and big essays on something that would be good if it could possibly happen which it cant
tone wise they all seem to be cargo culting news or clickbait

i guess maybe you couldn't get a good paper out of "lol shits completely hosed but we're going to laugh our last breaths at these pathetic monsters"

Well there's always the onion, albeit they're American.

e: e.g. Amy Coney Barrett Promises Catholic Faith Won’t Interfere With Court’s Crushing Of The Poor, Downtrodden

Private Speech fucked around with this message at 11:27 on Oct 28, 2020

Biggus Dickus
May 18, 2005

Roadies know where to focus the spotlight.

knox_harrington posted:

NB don't buy a Tesla. If I was going to buy an electric car like you're describing next year I'd be looking at one of these
https://www.skoda-auto.com/models/range/enyaq-iv

That was on my list as well as the VW ID.4, but we're on the preorder for the Ford Mustnnnng Mach-e.

As for vans and seeing over other vehicles, it comes into play most at 2-lane roundabouts where you can see clearly over those to your immediate right.

Total Meatlove
Jan 28, 2007

:japan:
Rangers died, shoujo Hitler cried ;_;
Gonna get the polestar because it sounds rude and isn’t.

XMNN
Apr 26, 2008
I am incredibly stupid
eh, if they're not going it's not safe and if they are it is or they're going to get hit first

e: I guess if you're trying to turn left immediately it might be safe for you but not them, but I don't trust people to indicate/position themselves properly so I don't really like pulling out unless they're very clearly going to carry on going round

XMNN fucked around with this message at 12:02 on Oct 28, 2020

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Biggus Dickus posted:

As for vans and seeing over other vehicles, it comes into play most at 2-lane roundabouts where you can see clearly over those to your immediate right.

Wait for them to go and if someone hits them it's not your problem :v:

Works better with articulated lorries.

The Question IRL
Jun 8, 2013

Only two contestants left! Here is Doom's chance for revenge...

XMNN posted:

eh, if they're not going it's not safe and if they are it is or they're going to get hit first

Or you get the situation where the guy to your right goes and it wasn't safe but because Satan likes bastards they don't get hit. But had you gone when they had there likely would have been a collision.

Like I have seen so many people pull out on roundabouts, not giving way to traffic on the right, but very often they don't suffer any consequences.
One reason I got a Dash Cam was so I could report other drivers for doing stupid poo poo if I caught it on camera.

The Question IRL fucked around with this message at 12:05 on Oct 28, 2020

ObamaAkbar.
Apr 7, 2009

DesiredPopulationMin = 3
DesiredPopulationMax = 19
AverageDeathsPerDay = 6
WeaponsUsed = 13



Yeah I only do that if its a lorry, although another lorry slamming into the side of it would probably wipe me out too

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

If two lorries hit each other and you're parked next to one of them you're probably dead either way.

ObamaAkbar.
Apr 7, 2009

DesiredPopulationMin = 3
DesiredPopulationMax = 19
AverageDeathsPerDay = 6
WeaponsUsed = 13



Fair point

Lunar Suite
Jun 5, 2011

If you love a flower which happens to be on a star, it is sweet at night to gaze at the sky. All the stars are a riot of flowers.
I just wish motorists, in their idiot-proof two ton metal cages, would wait the two seconds it takes for the other lane to clear, and follow highway code 163 (cycles should be given as much space as a car when overtaking). Instead, of course, they come so loving close I could shave on their side mirrors.

I use lights at night, I stop at all red lights, I keep to the side of the road - I even wave for cars to pass me if I feel it's safe. But every time I get overtaken with so little space I pray to God "not today please", I drive a little closer to the center of the lane. gently caress you, cars, your acceleration is far superior, wait the two goddamn seconds to overtake safely.

Biggus Dickus
May 18, 2005

Roadies know where to focus the spotlight.

Total Meatlove posted:

Gonna get the polestar because it sounds rude and isn’t.

The 2 is goddamn gorgeous in the flesh (saw it at Goodwood).

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Depends on the car and the road, my car is poo poo so I can't overtake safely a lot of the time, especially not when you most want to overtake which is going up a hill because there is usually a blind summit at the top and cyclists go at walking pace up them and your car needs 3-5 working days notice to get up to speed as well. So i end up following the cyclist trying not to stall my car driving it at 2mph.

Make the lanes wider and put cycle lanes on steep hills.

OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 12:25 on Oct 28, 2020

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Total Meatlove posted:

Gonna get the polestar because it sounds rude and isn’t.

Biggus Dickus posted:

(saw it at Goodwood).

ObamaAkbar.
Apr 7, 2009

DesiredPopulationMin = 3
DesiredPopulationMax = 19
AverageDeathsPerDay = 6
WeaponsUsed = 13



Lunar Suite posted:

I just wish motorists, in their idiot-proof two ton metal cages, would wait the two seconds it takes for the other lane to clear, and follow highway code 163 (cycles should be given as much space as a car when overtaking). Instead, of course, they come so loving close I could shave on their side mirrors.

I use lights at night, I stop at all red lights, I keep to the side of the road - I even wave for cars to pass me if I feel it's safe. But every time I get overtaken with so little space I pray to God "not today please", I drive a little closer to the center of the lane. gently caress you, cars, your acceleration is far superior, wait the two goddamn seconds to overtake safely.

You should honestly just cycle in the centre of the lane, a car needs to partially enter the opposite lane to overtake either way so you might as well make them enter it completely and not have them try and squeeze past

blunt
Jul 7, 2005

Put cycle lanes everywhere. Unban electric scooters and let them in the lanes. Fine anybody riding in the road when there's an adjacent cycle lane. Uses those fines to build more cycle lanes.

In the meantime though, cycle in the center. That way I won't feel anxious about needing to overtake you because the car behind me is right up my rear end.

God I hate everything about driving.

Skarsnik
Oct 21, 2008

I...AM...RUUUDE!




Lunar Suite posted:

I just wish motorists, in their idiot-proof two ton metal cages, would wait the two seconds it takes for the other lane to clear, and follow highway code 163 (cycles should be given as much space as a car when overtaking). Instead, of course, they come so loving close I could shave on their side mirrors.

I use lights at night, I stop at all red lights, I keep to the side of the road - I even wave for cars to pass me if I feel it's safe. But every time I get overtaken with so little space I pray to God "not today please", I drive a little closer to the center of the lane. gently caress you, cars, your acceleration is far superior, wait the two goddamn seconds to overtake safely.

They're not cheap but can thoroughly recommend a rear camera

Its incredible satisfying sending off the footage of a close pass to the po po

(I have no idea if your local police force actually allows this, in wales there is an online video uploader specifically designed for it)

Angepain
Jul 13, 2012

what keeps happening to my clothes
the government continues it's bold action towards equality by launching a call for evidence for a committee undertaking an inquiry into the conclusions made by considering the analysis of the responses to the consultation regarding its proposals to consider reforming some aspects of specific legislation, considering the decision the government made on the balance of reasoned debate that it would kindly decide provisionally to not make things actively worse. love this loving country

https://twitter.com/Commonswomequ/status/1321392870075568128

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

blunt posted:

That way I won't feel anxious about needing to overtake you because the car behind me is right up my rear end.

God I hate everything about driving.

This is the other thing, it's a lot harder to just follow people when you're holding up a big line of traffic by doing it, you might be technically in the right but so much of driving involves keeping with the flow of traffic, it's why you don't stop to let people out or cross the road unless you're already stopped or there's a lot of space behind you. Also why you will tend to speed if the person in front is doing it.

Driving sucks and I hate it.

crispix
Mar 28, 2015

Grand-Maman m'a raconté
(Les éditions des amitiés franco-québécoises)

Hello, dear

Lunar Suite posted:

I just wish motorists, in their idiot-proof two ton metal cages, would wait the two seconds it takes for the other lane to clear, and follow highway code 163 (cycles should be given as much space as a car when overtaking). Instead, of course, they come so loving close I could shave on their side mirrors.

I use lights at night, I stop at all red lights, I keep to the side of the road - I even wave for cars to pass me if I feel it's safe. But every time I get overtaken with so little space I pray to God "not today please", I drive a little closer to the center of the lane. gently caress you, cars, your acceleration is far superior, wait the two goddamn seconds to overtake safely.

It's shocking. I always leave a car width if it's safe to pass because you just plain don't know what might happen. A couple of months ago I was driving around a road that is basically one big bend and also slightly uphill so I stayed behind a cyclist who was cycling at a fair speed anyway. It was too hard to judge if a car was coming the other way the whole way around but it was going to take two minutes max to get around the bend. This woman behind me was having none of it though and tried to overtake both me and the cyclist only to have to swerve back in to dodge a van bombing up the hill the other way. She was so close I saw her stupid, startled face right up in my wing mirror. Two loving minutes

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Angepain posted:

the government continues it's bold action towards equality by launching a call for evidence for a committee undertaking an inquiry into the conclusions made by considering the analysis of the responses to the consultation regarding its proposals to consider reforming some aspects of specific legislation, considering the decision the government made on the balance of reasoned debate that it would kindly decide provisionally to not make things actively worse. love this loving country

https://twitter.com/Commonswomequ/status/1321392870075568128
Loving terves getting owned in the replies with "far more women than men supported the reforms" and "it's not misogyny to disagree with a hateful position supported mostly by fash old men."

Bobstar
Feb 8, 2006

KartooshFace, you are not responding efficiently!

blunt posted:

Put cycle lanes everywhere. Unban electric scooters and let them in the lanes. Fine anybody riding in the road when there's an adjacent cycle lane. Uses those fines to build more cycle lanes.

In the meantime though, cycle in the center. That way I won't feel anxious about needing to overtake you because the car behind me is right up my rear end.

God I hate everything about driving.

This bit is a bad idea, and could only work if there was a near-perfect network of well-maintained segregated cycle lanes that make cycling from A to B as or more convenient than the road, for any given values of A and B. Otherwise you end up with cyclists being fined and abused by everyone when the adjacent cycle lane is unsafe or not really there.

Even then, it would require rewriting the law on what roads are for - I believe I'm right in saying that in the UK (England?), roads are for everyone including pedestrians and horses, unless they're motorways or something, which is why we don't have the concept of jaywalking.

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kingturnip
Apr 18, 2008
They've spent the last year or so installing cycle lanes down the main road near me.
A good idea, but the traffic was already complete poo poo for at least 5 hours every day and this hasn't helped the situation (well, neither has covid, since it's meant the work's taken at least twice as long as it should have).
Part of me thinks it's because I live in the poor part of my borough and the council (whoever runs it, to be fair) never seems all that bothered about trying to make the traffic better.
A three-mile car journey (to somewhere without convenient public transport) can take 30 minutes, when the first 25 minutes is just trying to cross over to the 'nice' side of the borough.

Still, the cycle lanes do look nice.

OwlFancier posted:

so much of driving involves keeping with the flow of traffic, it's why you don't stop to let people out

Part of the drive I mentioned has a rat-run coming out into it. It's infuriating that other drivers let people out of it and I utterly refuse to do the same. Generally speaking, though, I'll let a car out if I'm in no particular rush

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