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Have any of the crowdfunded MMOs managed to limp over the finishing line yet?
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Oct 24, 2020 10:26
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History Comes Inside! posted:Have any of the crowdfunded MMOs managed to limp over the finishing line yet? Only if you count Shroud of the Avatar, which ended up not quite being an MMO and which managed to "release" after pretending they could just be in open beta all the time.
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Oct 24, 2020 16:26
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Freakazoid_ posted:Only if you count Shroud of the Avatar, which ended up not quite being an MMO and which managed to "release" after pretending they could just be in open beta all the time. Also raised more money than EQ cost to develop in today's dollars lmao
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Oct 24, 2020 16:50
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Freakazoid_ posted:Only if you count Shroud of the Avatar, which ended up not quite being an MMO and which managed to "release" after pretending they could just be in open beta all the time. I will never forget or disassociate Shroud of the Avatar with the fact that Richard Garriott was selling his blood to fund it.
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Oct 24, 2020 17:34
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Shroud of the Avatar is literally the only one, and it was a gigantic loving turd and still is. The devs have been trying to make the first paid expansion for it, but they failed to acquire funding. None of the remaining playerbase gave money to it.
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Oct 24, 2020 18:07
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Groovelord Neato posted:Also raised more money than EQ cost to develop in today's dollars lmao Well sure, but building engines and networking and assets and running servers is more...oh, hmm.
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Oct 24, 2020 19:09
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I said come in! posted:Shroud of the Avatar is literally the only one, and it was a gigantic loving turd and still is. The devs have been trying to make the first paid expansion for it, but they failed to acquire funding. None of the remaining playerbase gave money to it. Didn't the original kickstarter meet the stretch goal for the game to have three chapters anyway? Without needing additional funding?
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Oct 24, 2020 19:47
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Node posted:Didn't the original kickstarter meet the stretch goal for the game to have three chapters anyway? Without needing additional funding? yeah but now the original company, portalarium, has been dissolved, and the new company which owns the game is just one of the senior devs and like, maybe two other guys working from home. they're not even close to releasing the second chapter but they keep trying to sell $8000 land plots, it's very lol even the dissident dunking on the game subreddit has basically died as SOTA has dwindled to less than 100 regular players
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Oct 26, 2020 14:38
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surprised this limped along for a year after brads death, it was always gonna fail but Brad dying cut its funding to pretty much nothing people bought in just for him and his cult of personality, nothing else
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Oct 28, 2020 14:09
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This is what happens when people get millions from Kickstarter and the original scope of the project is expanded so much that trying to make all those new pieces fit just bloats the project and by the time they should have been done, they're already asking for more money to actually finish the project because of all the crap they added.
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Oct 28, 2020 18:27
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I thought if a Kickstarter failed they didn’t get any of the money?
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Oct 28, 2020 18:47
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I honestly feel like I, with no gaming or software development experience, could do a better job of delivering on a crowdfunded game than these guys. I’m guessing this is what everyone feels before they launch their own crowdfunded mmo.
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Oct 28, 2020 20:47
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desudrive posted:This is what happens when people get millions from Kickstarter and the original scope of the project is expanded so much that trying to make all those new pieces fit just bloats the project and by the time they should have been done, they're already asking for more money to actually finish the project because of all the crap they added. To be fair, the scope always included 'is an MMO' and that's just guaranteed failure for a poorly funded and inexperienced team. though they only received large amounts of money because of that aspect and I'm sure they knew it, so essentially you're right.
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Oct 28, 2020 23:39
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retpocileh posted:I honestly feel like I, with no gaming or software development experience, could do a better job of delivering on a crowdfunded game than these guys. Nope you're right because they spent two years doing it in a way that even I - having never made a game in my life - know is not the way you make a game like this: Ehud posted:you guys aren't gonna believe this. The team has no idea what they're doing and they're running out of money.
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Oct 29, 2020 14:05
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desudrive posted:This is what happens when people get millions from Kickstarter LuckyCat posted:I thought if a Kickstarter failed they didn’t get any of the money? Yeah, they only attracted about half of their $800K target, so unless they did it again on a "flexible funding" platform that I can't find, they didn't get a dime.
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Oct 29, 2020 15:23
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Subjunctive posted:Yeah, they only attracted about half of their $800K target, so unless they did it again on a "flexible funding" platform that I can't find, they didn't get a dime. I do recall that as soon as the KS failed they set up a donation page and encouraged everyone to donate the amount they submitted through Kickstarter. I know this because I’m a sucker.
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Oct 29, 2020 15:58
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LuckyCat posted:I do recall that as soon as the KS failed they set up a donation page and encouraged everyone to donate the amount they submitted through Kickstarter. I know this because I’m a sucker. Can you do an ama?
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Oct 29, 2020 16:17
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I said it earlier in the thread but the awful title was a giant red flag from the start.
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Oct 29, 2020 17:52
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The biggest red flag was McQuaid's involvement tbh. Most of the stuff that was good about EQ was poo poo the devs never intended and then, uh.... Vanguard. You'd have to be a giant sucker to see "Brad McQuaid's new MMO!" and think that it would be anything remotely enjoyable
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Oct 29, 2020 18:47
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FrostyPox posted:Most of the stuff that was good about EQ was poo poo the devs never intended Ain't it the truth. And Pantheon wants to remove all of that unintended stuff as well. No fun allowed.
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Oct 29, 2020 19:41
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don't forget they've been charging for game time, forums access and additional bag space since 2014 or so lol
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Oct 29, 2020 23:41
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FrostyPox posted:The biggest red flag was McQuaid's involvement tbh. Most of the stuff that was good about EQ was poo poo the devs never intended and then, uh.... Vanguard. You'd have to be a giant sucker to see "Brad McQuaid's new MMO!" and think that it would be anything remotely enjoyable
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Oct 29, 2020 23:44
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FrostyPox posted:The biggest red flag was McQuaid's involvement tbh. Most of the stuff that was good about EQ was poo poo the devs never intended and then, uh.... Vanguard. You'd have to be a giant sucker to see "Brad McQuaid's new MMO!" and think that it would be anything remotely enjoyable I picked up Vanguard again about a year before it died for good and i really enjoyed it. Shame it had such lovely leadership and launched in the state it did
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Oct 30, 2020 00:30
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clean ayers act posted:I picked up Vanguard again about a year before it died for good and i really enjoyed it. Shame it had such lovely leadership and launched in the state it did It was really fun and cool to be the first person to discover an item 
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Oct 30, 2020 05:17
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The name of the game alone was a huge red flag.
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Oct 30, 2020 13:19
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good news, everyone New pre-alpha 5 footage just dropped! looks like the game is almost finished! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGtB7F3ddBM
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Oct 30, 2020 19:40
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Groovelord Neato posted:The name of the game alone was a huge red flag. I didn't really get it until I got it and then it was just lol Ehud posted:good news, everyone They made it an anime?
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Oct 30, 2020 20:07
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Ehud posted:good news, everyone even though this is basically a long sustained farting sound the stupid dual wielding generic everquest characters triggers something deep in my brain. it makes me want to waste a thousand hours in a low poly world. sign up for camps. fall off something and never get my corpse back. ed: also lol it's hilarious watching this full party try to take down regular mobs by trying to carefully use CC spells, which are bugged and don't work like half the time, just at all
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Oct 30, 2020 20:46
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Who could have predicted a game made by a man most famous for telling all his staff their was an ice cream party in the carpark only to go lol reversal of Fortune and give them severance documents instead of ice cream while rifling through their desks looking for pills to scarf would be a colossal fuckup who couldn't deliver on a project.
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Oct 30, 2020 20:59
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cagliostr0 posted:Who could have predicted a game made by a man most famous for telling all his staff their was an ice cream party in the carpark only to go lol reversal of Fortune and give them severance documents instead of ice cream while rifling through their desks looking for pills to scarf would be a colossal fuckup who couldn't deliver on a project. I can not fathom treating your employees like that.
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Oct 30, 2020 22:18
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retpocileh posted:I can not fathom treating your employees like that. You lack the vision necessary to create a truly engaging MMO.
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Oct 31, 2020 02:01
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LMAO I forgot about that, what a fuckin' clown That video... releasing a WoW clone in
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Oct 31, 2020 02:03
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Frog Act posted:even though this is basically a long sustained farting sound the stupid dual wielding generic everquest characters triggers something deep in my brain. it makes me want to waste a thousand hours in a low poly world. sign up for camps. fall off something and never get my corpse back. yeah the greyboxing/low poly has a certain charm and they ought to just roll with it as their final art style low poly bear <3 the races and combat look pretty generic and muddy. i guess it's just my nostalgia but EQ's combat felt a lot crunchier and the characters had nice albeit goofy at times silhouettes. this kind of just looks like it plays like wow clone button masher.
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Oct 31, 2020 03:23
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Ehud posted:good news, everyone It looks like something put together using Unity in about 3 months. However, there is a certain charm in how it looks and sounds. Maybe if this was their original alpha they had before putting it up on Kickstarter.
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Oct 31, 2020 04:40
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Cardboard Fox posted:It looks like something put together using Unity in about 3 months. That's because outside of like Faerthale that is quite literally accurate. This game is basically completely fresh since these young blood joined the team in like mid 2019 or whenever it was. Most of the time spent until now has been on Faerthale. But I don't know about everyone else but Faerthale didn't even look that fun? I realise this game is more about reading and the storyline / getting immersed in the world etc but there just didn't look like that much poo poo to do. I'm real worried that there just isn't going to be enough lore / quests to keep anyone interested. No minimap is great though. This is going to be super fun for exploring and learning the world.
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Oct 31, 2020 07:37
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Ehud posted:good news, everyone The comments in this...are we all watching the same video?
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Oct 31, 2020 07:58
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hobocrunch posted:That's because outside of like Faerthale that is quite literally accurate. This game is basically completely fresh since these young blood joined the team in like mid 2019 or whenever it was. Most of the time spent until now has been on Faerthale. But it has climbing mechanics damnit. CLIMBING. NO ONE HAS DONE CLIMBING MECHANICS YET
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Oct 31, 2020 08:48
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cmdrk posted:the races and combat look pretty generic and muddy. i guess it's just my nostalgia but EQ's combat felt a lot crunchier and the characters had nice albeit goofy at times silhouettes. this kind of just looks like it plays like wow clone button masher. Agreed. Even if development wasn't a dumpster fire I was not feeling the races/classes at all. EQ races had way more character to them.
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Oct 31, 2020 13:52
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Verbose posted:The comments in this...are we all watching the same video? Not a single critical comment on that video. 
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Oct 31, 2020 14:47
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Game is going beyond my expectations, getting all excited again. If this is the raw stuff, we are for one hell of a ride once complete.
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