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SCheeseman posted:What have Nvidia got to lose from opening up their DLSS API and tools to everyone? Couldn't it be used with injectors like ReShade (or at least potentially so)? No, unless ReShade is a lot fancier than I am thinking. DLSS is not just a post-processing step; the game engine needs to implement viewport jitter like TAA, and then pass that to the DLSS unit along with motion vectors and depth information, and the texturing, mipmapping and actual post-processing all need to be configured properly (differently from a traditional upscaler or AA solution). If the game already does TAA, then DLSS is not that hard to add, but it still requires hooks into the engine. If the game doesn't do TAA there's probably little chance of DLSS ever showing up for it. repiv posted:Nvidia doesn't support using DLSS just for anti-aliasing, their stance is that Quality mode (2x upscaling) is already good enough that there's no point throwing more samples at it Based on their technical presentation (yeah yeah), they are correct. DLSS with 2x upscaling -- which is equivalent to 1440p -> 4k or 1080p -> 1440p -- is visually indistinguishable from the target resolution rendered natively, and it gets free extremely good antialiasing to boot. compare 1080p 32x SSAA vs. DLSS scaled from 540p to 1080p (which is actually their 4x performance mode, not 2x) and see if you can tell the difference    from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5knHzv0IQE if it seems like unbelievable magic it's worth noting that the technology is less than 6 months old. it is really cutting edge stuff Sagebrush fucked around with this message at 04:16 on Oct 29, 2020 |
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pik_d posted:Actually this is in stock as a combo deal right now ha, got it in cart again, and gone again. Ok heres the deal, this is 100% not a scam: I will sell ANYONE in this thread who wants a 6800 XT GPU mine for ONLY $500 right now. THIS IS A LEGIT 6800 XT, and I have it IN HAND! One caveat: it does have a female on blower.
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pik_d posted:Actually this is in stock as a combo deal right now It looks like you're able to add that to cart but you cannot checkout  not that it matters because i'm on The Other Side Of The World
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Cygni posted:ha, got it in cart again, and gone again. If you can get this to load (you can't) the TUF OC is available: https://store.asus.com/us/search?q=3080&s_c=1
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BurritoJustice posted:Has anyone seen a measurable performance difference when overclocked with the 2x8pin cards like the TUF versus 3x8pin like the Strix? I know you can easily hit the 375w theoretical draw really easily, but I don't know how much you get for the extra power limit. I recall one of the techtubers saying the mondo-power cards were for the extreme overclockers who will disable any sort of power limit, in hardware if need be.
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NewEgg more like SCREWEGG they screwed me again. Stuck in cart and no matter how many times I clicked the page wouldn't proceed, just flickered.Cygni posted:Ok heres the deal, this is 100% not a scam: I will sell ANYONE in this thread who wants a 6800 XT GPU mine for ONLY $500 right now. THIS IS A LEGIT 6800 XT, and I have it IN HAND! OK ya got me with this one lol
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I can't see RAGE MODE and not just think of AMD drivers over the years.
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Zero VGS posted:OK ya got me with this one lol Hey, it supports 4k!
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Oh by the way, I "got" my "RTX 3080" to "fit" in my "case" with "gravity" and "a clothespin": This thing is pulling like 100 fuckin' watts more than my 2080 and crashing the PC. Guess I gotta try undervolting. I thought maybe it was the twinaxial riser I'm using, but setting it to PCIE 2.0 didn't help. Edit: gently caress me, MSI Afterburner doesn't let me undervolt it? What else is there?
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shrike82 posted:Any good write ups on the infinity cache hardware feature? Nope, AMD is being super tight lipped about it apparently. The AT arch piece talks a little about it here: https://www.anandtech.com/show/16202/amd-reveals-the-radeon-rx-6000-series-rdna2-starts-at-the-highend-coming-november-18th/2
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Zero VGS posted:The only RAGE for me is ATI RAGE When I was watching the announcement this morning that's immediately what I thought of. Has to be an intentional callback.
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A couple of websites got 3080 inventory in the past 4-5 hours out here in North America, when I actually happened to be at my desk even. No matter how quickly I responded to the Discord alerts the websites were already crashed or timing out. Not that I expected to get one, but I just wanted to witness the "in stock" or "available" tags on my screen before moving on.
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BurritoJustice posted:Has anyone seen a measurable performance difference when overclocked with the 2x8pin cards like the TUF versus 3x8pin like the Strix? I know you can easily hit the 375w theoretical draw really easily, but I don't know how much you get for the extra power limit. I have the 3080 FE on a water block maxed out at 370w. If I could increase it to 450w like a Strix, it should stabilize at above 2000Mhz core. This thing draws so much power that if you run anything that's also memory intensive, the memory power draw will limit the amount of power going to the chip, reducing the effective core frequency. On my card, it can do 2100Mhz with memory-low games like Crusader Kings 3 or hover around 1900-1950 in heavy benchmarks like Port Royale. Is that extra 5% core speed worth it for an extra $150 and 80w? meh. edit: Testing it more, I think it's not memory but core utilization. 370w is just not enough power for all the cores to run calculations at 2000Mhz at 975mV (insert your silicon lottery voltage here) MeruFM fucked around with this message at 05:29 on Oct 29, 2020 |
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MeruFM posted:I have the 3080 FE on a water block maxed out at 370w. If I could increase it to 450w like a Strix, it should stabilize at above 2000Mhz core. What water block?
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bykski, I recommend waiting for the EK one if you're okay with paying extra because this thing looks like it was repurposed from a completely different design.
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did they say anything about which models of the 3070 will be available in canada? im guessing the FE won't and i dont have a fuckin clue what the rest of them are
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BurritoJustice posted:Has anyone seen a measurable performance difference when overclocked with the 2x8pin cards like the TUF versus 3x8pin like the Strix? I know you can easily hit the 375w theoretical draw really easily, but I don't know how much you get for the extra power limit.
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BurritoJustice posted:Has anyone seen a measurable performance difference when overclocked with the 2x8pin cards like the TUF versus 3x8pin like the Strix? I know you can easily hit the 375w theoretical draw really easily, but I don't know how much you get for the extra power limit. The 3 pin let's you run the 450-500w bios but you also need it to be under water to make use of the power headroom as it will just drop clocks once the core goes over 50c
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Zero VGS posted:Oh by the way, I "got" my "RTX 3080" to "fit" in my "case" with "gravity" and "a clothespin": Yeah it will, just press Ctrl-F on the main Afterburner interface.
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shrike82 posted:Any good write ups on the infinity cache hardware feature? It's just a large cache. It's associative. Behaves roughly like any other cache, etc.. The only impressive thing about it is the low floorspace footprint and power consumption, but that's probably more tsmc's doing than anyone else's.
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Profanity posted:Yeah it will, just press Ctrl-F on the main Afterburner interface. Ehh, nope. I went into the preferences and hit "Unlock Voltage Control: third party" and CTRL-F brings up the voltage curve, but clicking the curve does nothing. The voltage slider is still grayed out too, even after a reboot. EVGA Precision X1 didn't worth either. Hope they didn't lock voltage in the GPU BIOS but I wouldn't put it past Dell.
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is there even any information on what 3070s exist? theres no way we're getting the FE in canada so uh, are there any for us to get edit: ah ok this is something https://www.newegg.ca/p/pl?d=3070&fbclid=IwAR3hybKlsZppqgLHHA2gpCWymN7Jjnn5UIIrsNTHtQapjNr4JGsGQexi3q4&N=100007708&isdeptsrh=1 Verviticus fucked around with this message at 05:23 on Oct 29, 2020 |
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Comically both the Gigabyte and Evga 3070s look better than their 3080/3090s. The Eagle is missing its weird hunchback, and the XC3 no longer has clown mouth. e: VVVV those are canadian pesos, in USD: https://www.newegg.com/p/pl?d=3070&N=100007709&Order=1
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I'm getting about 2 alerts per minute for asus from my bot (I got one while writing this) and I clicked add to cart the first time and then my cart was empty. I just got another alert. It's tuf's and strixes, but a strix wouldn't fit in my box either  edit: still getting tons of alerts. If anyone manages to buy a tuf tonight and has one extra, let me know please! redreader fucked around with this message at 05:43 on Oct 29, 2020 |
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random DLSS question, can you use it in windowed mode, or does it depend on the game implementation? on my 970, i didn't like that i couldn't force nvidia's supersampling without giving up borderless windowed
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Cygni posted:Comically both the Gigabyte and Evga 3070s look better than their 3080/3090s. The Eagle is missing its weird hunchback, and the XC3 no longer has clown mouth. Also comical, 2070 Supers are listing at higher prices than when I bought one in May, and are higher than 3070 prices. And appear to be only marginally more in stock.
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MeruFM posted:I have the 3080 FE on a water block maxed out at 370w. If I could increase it to 450w like a Strix, it should stabilize at above 2000Mhz core. For me (3090) it's $2900 (for TUF) versus $3100-3300 (for FTW3 or Strix) in dollarydoos. When you add up the system cost alongside the watercooling a 5%+ gain in final GPU-limited performance would actually be pretty ok-ish. I'm also big on overclocking even for average gains, I got a binned 5.1 9900k when that was the hottness and 4000c17 32GB ram. It'll be under water with two triple rads and a single, I don't expect core temps to break 45c Sounds like it might be worth it, but probably a wash between the FTW3 and Strix for the $200.
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I may have missed it, but what's the general consensus on the 3070 so far?
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SourKraut posted:I may have missed it, but what's the general consensus on the 3070 so far? It's a 2080Ti at less than half the price. A great deal, and hopefully the smaller die size will make the supply crunch not nearly as bad.
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repiv posted:Nvidia doesn't support using DLSS just for anti-aliasing, their stance is that Quality mode (2x upscaling) is already good enough that there's no point throwing more samples at it
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lol looks like WD: Legion is heavily CPU bound with people on 9900K/3080s seeing 100% CPU utilization, 80% GPU utilization and frequent stuttering.
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So what time should I set my alarm for tomorrow to get a 3070?
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redreader posted:So what time should I set my alarm for tomorrow to get a 3070? If it's anything like the other launches, 6am Pacific but you should probably be online by 5am in case things start going online early.
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Ok I just won't get one then. Thanks. Too early for me.
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redreader posted:So what time should I set my alarm for tomorrow to get a 3070? I would assume by 7AM most of them will be listed on eBay
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Shipon posted:I had a 4k monitor at 60hz i used for a while but it was always difficult to get a good experience at max settings even with a 1080Ti. I moved to a 1440p/165 hz GSync display and it was a complete world of difference and now seeing a 60hz monitor just isn't enough. Give me higher refresh 1440p over 4k any day. 21:9 is better than 4K imo. But if you don’t want that then 1440p is definitely all that is needed.
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