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DGC773 posted:Yeah and leave the Labour Party unelectable for decades more. Better still than a Labor party run by Starmer, in or out of office
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splinter! new party!
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Don't ever engage someone who tries to throw even mild antisemitism-themed criticism at JC just smash them in the loving dirt
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Oct 29, 2020 16:14
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therattle posted:Lots of Jews: there is antisemitism in Labour. You're a disingenuous fuckwit, the leadership of Labour never said "there isn't any antisemitism & it's Zionist smears", just gently caress right off with making poo poo up DGC773 posted:Yeah and leave the Labour Party unelectable for decades more. Good, gently caress 'em.
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Oct 29, 2020 16:15
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therattle posted:Lots of Jews: there is antisemitism in Labour. gently caress off turd
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Don't you understand?? Labor needs to be the Conservative party, so they can get ELECTED and enact policies that would have been passed by the Conservatives
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Oct 29, 2020 16:19
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therattle posted:Well, he's certainly done the former if that's what he wanted. If the latter, I think it's very bad judgment, and completely tone-deaf. You're a loving idiot.
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therattle posted:Lots of Jews: there is antisemitism in Labour. https://twitter.com/ryanlcooper/status/1321807534387306497
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Chomskyan posted:Better still than a Labor party run by Starmer, in or out of office Yeah you know what I agree. I want an unelectable Labour Party for the rest of time.
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DGC773 posted:Yeah you know what I agree. I want an unelectable Labour Party for the rest of time. I have good news!
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DGC773 posted:Yeah you know what I agree. I want an unelectable Labour Party for the rest of time. done
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DGC773 posted:Yeah you know what I agree. I want an unelectable Labour Party for the rest of time. Don't get me wrong, you're completely incorrect that a left wing party would be unelectable. I'm just saying even if you were correct it doesn't matter
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remember when the tories had a ceremony and celebration for unveiling a new statue of a nazi sympathizer last year during the general election? lol https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/nancy-astor-statue-theresa-may-boris-johnson-antisemitism-plymouth-a9226106.html
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DGC773 posted:Yeah you know what I agree. I want an unelectable Labour Party for the rest of time. You got it.
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Oct 29, 2020 16:34
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i wish i shared the optimism of posters who don't think kier will win the next election
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Communist Thoughts posted:i wish i shared the optimism of posters who don't think kier will win the next election Boris is still really popular though
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gonadic io posted:Boris is still really popular though
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Once CV19 is over next March, Boris will come back and start winning again,
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Oct 29, 2020 16:46
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Prit Patel will be the next leader after Boris. Labour have no chance.
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Oct 29, 2020 16:47
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Communist Thoughts posted:i wish i shared the optimism of posters who don't think kier will win the next election Why would you think that? There was exactly one Labour PM that won an election in the last 50 years. And that guy was reportedly so close to Rupert Murdoch that he was sleeping with his wife.
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gonadic io posted:Boris is still really popular though i can see it going either way, but i think the path kier is moving towards is supplanting the tories as the neoliberal party by pitching labour as the sensible party of capital and the security state and its probably a more effective strategy than placing your faith in the british public and democracy to embrace good policies. plus the tories handling of coronavirus and then the inevitable brexit disaster are going to be gifts for labour whoever is in charge. we're basically going to see authoritarian technocrat vs culture war played again. it remains to be seen if the power of culture war bullshit has been exhausted since if it hasn't kier is almost an ideal opponent for boris. either way the strategy will get the centre right media and money on labour's side compared to the corrupt incompetence flagrantly on display at the moment. they dont mind corruption but they do mind it being this obvious. i see kier as being put in his position to basically prevent any sudden lurches to the populist left or right but also to rehabilitate british corruption and put it back behind the curtain. he's such a gift to the establishment its unreal.
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It will be Sunak and he'll just do all Keir's moves while Keir agrees with him on everything
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Communist Thoughts posted:i can see it going either way, but i think the path kier is moving towards is supplanting the tories as the neoliberal party by pitching labour as the sensible party of capital and the security state and its probably a more effective strategy than placing your faith in the british public and democracy to embrace good policies. One thing with this though is the Tories have 4 years left in power. CV will be over by March next year and Brexit will be done. So it will just be putting economic policies in place to benefit the UK outside the EU. The Tories are not scared at throwing money at the problem either.
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DGC773 posted:One thing with this though is the Tories have 4 years left in power. CV will be over by March next year and Brexit will be done. So it will just be putting economic policies in place to benefit the UK outside the EU. The Tories are not scared at throwing money at the problem either. lmao @ CV being beaten by march at this rate. the UK is gonna be dealing with this for a whiiiiiiiiile also the tories throwing money is literally just giving their cousin 200 million to do nothing. they are completely against using money to help out. 4 years down we're gonna be looking back at 2020 as a relatively competent year
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like again i dont think its a given he wins at all, but his path to victory is way clearer than corbyns was
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Communist Thoughts posted:lmao @ CV being beaten by march at this rate. the UK is gonna be dealing with this for a whiiiiiiiiile People are already bored with the restrictions now I don't see public compliance for much longer. By march next year we should have a vaccine.
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DGC773 posted:Prit Patel will be the next leader after Boris. Labour have no chance. Patel's the only Tory that would lose to Starmer
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Rollie Fingers posted:Patel's the only Tory that would lose to Starmer nah i'd make that gove, mind you he has the same inevitability as bojo did so maybe he will win anyway. priti is a hot fascist with a supervillain motif, if she could get a good faction behind her she'd be a strong contender imo. plus the tories would love to also have the first asian PM as well as all the women while labour just elects lovely white man after white man Communist Thoughts has issued a correction as of 17:01 on Oct 29, 2020 |
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Rollie Fingers posted:Patel's the only Tory that would lose to Starmer Nah Patel would win a bigger landslide than Boris
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Boris will be PM until the day he dies. Every Englishman's feeble peasant mind yearns to vote for him because he's just enough of a racist moron for them.
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The 1918 flu had four distinct waves, as a data point
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AnoHito posted:Boris will be PM until the day he dies. Every Englishman's feeble peasant mind yearns to vote for him because he's just enough of a racist moron for them. few months ago that was almost true
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Patel's too cartoonishly evil and she's openly and blatantly corrupt. The kind of shy Tory that swings each election to the Tories prefers polished centre-rightists who are refined in their racism and corporate fascism. Look at Cameron and the early days of Theresa May.
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loathe as i am to say it boris has charisma which is not something you can say for gove who also looks sounds and acts like an alien
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Jose posted:loathe as i am to say it boris has charisma which is not something you can say for gove who also looks sounds and acts like an alien johnson is safe so long as he's consistently above 35% imo
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https://twitter.com/hasanthehun/status/1321846404248084481 old tweet that should get some traction in light of recent events
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Also I'm pretty disappointed with all of you who quit Labour instead of being expelled. Post better.
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