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Steve French
Sep 8, 2003

Motronic posted:

Yeah, that can still work out. I get it, but it's entirely possible this is functional.

I believe it, it looked like it actually did go in via the fender

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Finger Prince
Jan 5, 2007


Wouldn't you want the inlet pointing backwards to keep the dust out? Or does it not matter?

Motronic
Nov 6, 2009

Finger Prince posted:

Wouldn't you want the inlet pointing backwards to keep the dust out? Or does it not matter?

there's a couple of schools on that thought, neither really scientific. Ram air or being stuck in potentially a vacuum that drags more dust around.

The one on my Rover points back on my driver's side. This was a gift from forums star CursedShitBox. I will tell you backwards on the drivers side is the best simply because when you open the window every time you get on the throttle it sounds like you're being followed by an angry swarm of bees and it's magical.

I guess front facing is okay too.

cakesmith handyman
Jul 22, 2007

Pip-Pip old chap! Last one in is a rotten egg what what.



Elviscat
Jan 1, 2008

Well don't you know I'm caught in a trap?


Thank you, I knew those were from some car but I could never figure out what, and it breaks my brain each time I see one because those particular headlights are so inappropriate looking on a huge brown truck.

Like, just license Jeep's roundies or something.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Casey can sometimes sound liek a douche, but I do enjoy watching his stuff on the King Zero:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwqJtMDFDj8

Wasabi the J
Jan 23, 2008

MOM WAS RIGHT

TotalLossBrain
Oct 20, 2010

Hier graben!

Elviscat posted:

Like, just license Jeep's roundies or something.

A lot of motorcycles use the same 7" round light.

StormDrain
May 22, 2003

Thirteen Letter

TotalLossBrain posted:

A lot of motorcycles use the same 7" round light.

I mean....



The sealed beam headlight isn't a trade secret.

Anghammarad
Jan 3, 2010

Ruining your domestic car industry since 1968

Worse (or maybe better) than you think. the V6 in the XJ220 was based on a metro engine!. worse than that, the early development engines for the 6R4 were everyones favourite rover/buick v8 boat anchor with a pair of cylinders lopped off!

cakesmith handyman
Jul 22, 2007

Pip-Pip old chap! Last one in is a rotten egg what what.

Group B cars don't really get tainted by their namesakes though, the 6R4 engine has zip to do with the A-series engined grocery getting hatchback my mum owned. Hell even the Buick engine ended up sharing little more than some common lines in the drawings with the 6R4, it's not as if racing engines were pulled from scrap Buicks and put through a bandsaw.

The fact that there was a group B metro is awesome enough.

randomidiot
May 12, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

(and can't post for 11 years!)


Damnit. Came here to post this, but I thought they were from an Intrigue instead of an Alero.

Elviscat posted:

Thank you, I knew those were from some car but I could never figure out what, and it breaks my brain each time I see one because those particular headlights are so inappropriate looking on a huge brown truck.

Like, just license Jeep's roundies or something.

The old round headlights baaaaaarely lit up the road. The Alero housings work a shitload better.

Source: have worked for UPS, both in the warehouse and as a driver helper. The older trucks with a complete round bulb assembly basically lit up an adult crossing the road just before you squished them, but didn't give you enough time to swerve, assuming you were doing 15-20 mph. They were never aimed right either. Every truck I rode in had one in the trees, one 2 ft in front of the truck.

I'm not sure if the current trucks still use composite headlamp assemblies or not. I know a lot of the ones with the Alero lights use a LSx engine and beefed up GM automatic, instead of a diesel + manual. But UPS is still running vehicles that rival the USPS Gruman LLV in age (Gruman was also one of the companies UPS used to build their trucks... err, package cars).

Fornax Disaster
Apr 11, 2005

If you need me I'll be in Holodeck Four.
The Alero I had was by far the easiest to change headlight bulbs. Maybe that was part of UPS's reason for choosing that assembly.

MrYenko
Jun 18, 2012

#2 isn't ALWAYS bad...

STR posted:

Damnit. Came here to post this, but I thought they were from an Intrigue instead of an Alero.


The old round headlights baaaaaarely lit up the road. The Alero housings work a shitload better.

Source: have worked for UPS, both in the warehouse and as a driver helper. The older trucks with a complete round bulb assembly basically lit up an adult crossing the road just before you squished them, but didn't give you enough time to swerve, assuming you were doing 15-20 mph. They were never aimed right either. Every truck I rode in had one in the trees, one 2 ft in front of the truck.

I'm not sure if the current trucks still use composite headlamp assemblies or not. I know a lot of the ones with the Alero lights use a LSx engine and beefed up GM automatic, instead of a diesel + manual. But UPS is still running vehicles that rival the USPS Gruman LLV in age (Gruman was also one of the companies UPS used to build their trucks... err, package cars).

I learned to drive manual transmission while doing car wash for UPS on the late shift. Power sliding empty package cars around the corners of the building while mashing on a 4 speed top-loader with a five foot long shifter handle.

:black101:

Those old trucks only had GM straight sixes, but they also had rock-hard compound semi-truck tires at 115psi and like 7.28:1 rear gears.

madeintaipei
Jul 13, 2012

MrYenko posted:

I learned to drive manual transmission while doing car wash for UPS on the late shift. Power sliding empty package cars around the corners of the building while mashing on a 4 speed top-loader with a five foot long shifter handle.

:black101:

Those old trucks only had GM straight sixes, but they also had rock-hard compound semi-truck tires at 115psi and like 7.28:1 rear gears.

Ugh. I make no secret of my hatred for stepvans from delivering bread. lovely 300cid I6 Fords or gutless TBI 305 Chevy V8s with three-speed autos. I once convinced a company mechanic to remove the limiter on a truck. Got me up to 57mph instead of 55mph. poo poo wiring, leaky fuel tanks, collapsed suspensions, horrible tires, completely lifeless steering with no center, the only thing they could do well was maneuver in small spaces. Even new, they sucked. The International bulk-trucks with the DT466e were somehow even more unreliable. They brought five new ones down from Georgia only to cannibalize three to keep two running. Weekly break-downs.

My first Isuzu cab-over was a revelation, the first Mitsubishi Fuso felt like a sports car.

You Am I
May 20, 2001

Me @ your poasting

Nidhg00670000 posted:

The Pagani Zonda uses the climate control panel from the Rover 45. The Lambo Murcielago uses the climate control from the Rover 45 with remoulded buttons.

While I understand the Zonda, surely the Lambo would've been using VAG climate controls since it was under Audi's ownership by the time the Murcie was released

CAT INTERCEPTOR
Nov 9, 2004

Basically a male Margaret Thatcher
One of the more offputting things about a Ferrari F430 is seeing all the low rent switchgear from 1970's FIAT and Lancia in it. As well as the literal same water spray bag from a 1978 Lancia Beta sedan.

Throatwarbler
Nov 17, 2008

by vyelkin

You Am I posted:

While I understand the Zonda, surely the Lambo would've been using VAG climate controls since it was under Audi's ownership by the time the Murcie was released

A google seems to confirm that it is the same unit as the Rover, since the Murcie is jsut a reskinned Diablo they probably just used an updated control panel that still had the same plugs and whatnot as the rest of the Diablo HVAC system that they probably reused.

Colostomy Bag
Jan 11, 2016

:lesnick: C-Bangin' it :lesnick:

CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:

One of the more offputting things about a Ferrari F430 is seeing all the low rent switchgear from 1970's FIAT and Lancia in it. As well as the literal same water spray bag from a 1978 Lancia Beta sedan.

Plus with the added benefit that the switch gear gets sticky.

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

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And then you try to clean it with alcohol and you discover that the whole thing just dissolves

Big Taint
Oct 19, 2003

Mmm soft touch

BlackMK4
Aug 23, 2006

wat.
Megamarm

Throatwarbler posted:

the Murcie is jsut a reskinned Diablo

TIL

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

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Yeah, like ... how true is this? I was always under the impression the Murc was a totally new platform. AWD, way different track ... it doesn't really even look like the same general underlying shape as the Diablo.

dissss
Nov 10, 2007

I'm a terrible forums poster with terrible opinions.

Here's a cat fucking a squid.
Later versions of the Diablo were AWD too

randomidiot
May 12, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

(and can't post for 11 years!)

MrYenko posted:

I learned to drive manual transmission while doing car wash for UPS on the late shift. Power sliding empty package cars around the corners of the building while mashing on a 4 speed top-loader with a five foot long shifter handle.

:black101:

Those old trucks only had GM straight sixes, but they also had rock-hard compound semi-truck tires at 115psi and like 7.28:1 rear gears.

I would be loving terrified to power slide one of those things. :stare:

I thought they also used Ford 300s at one point instead of Chevy? Or both? The one I last rode in was running a Navistar and a 5 speed (really a 4+granny I think). Toward the end of the shift the driver would be hauling some serious rear end, I didn't even think those things could hit 60, but it could (that engine was loving screaming by then). Speedometer just flailed around everywhere, but I had a GPS speed app on my phone..

fake edit: just found a pic I took of the incomplete chassis sticker on the last one I was in. Navistar chassis/engine, Union City body. 96 model year. Odometer had been stuck at 399,999 for the 3 or 4 years the driver I was with had been driving that truck.

Olympic Mathlete
Feb 25, 2011

:h:


A 4 door Ferrari hopefully not being a thing.

https://twitter.com/CARandDRIVER/status/1323376880565800964?s=20

Olympic Mathlete fucked around with this message at 16:31 on Nov 3, 2020

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

Well good news, you can buy an FF instead and have a gorgeous 2 door shooting brake instead.

Olympic Mathlete
Feb 25, 2011

:h:


FF is probably the best looking Ferrari in a looooooong time

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

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In the grim future there will be nothing but 17 different sizes of SUV made by every company, each a micrometer-measured clone of the one made by the next company

TheBacon
Feb 8, 2012

#essereFerrari

Olympic Mathlete posted:

FF is probably the best looking Ferrari in a looooooong time

I do actually somewhat like the Roma, idk if it's growing on me or what. Also the one-off Omolagto is gorgeous.

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

The Roma looks too much like an Aston Martin to me. Which is fine, the Vanquish is a good looking car. But I won't be hanging any posters of a Ferrari Vanquish.

That Omolagto though. :allears:

CAT INTERCEPTOR
Nov 9, 2004

Basically a male Margaret Thatcher

Olympic Mathlete posted:

FF is probably the best looking Ferrari in a looooooong time

And it still looks like a clownshoe

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

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I don't know, I haven't been too impressed with the looks of any Ferrari since they lost the 3/4 window shape of the 355 and prior.

The pointy hip window and old-man armpit-high-hiked-up-belt look under it just looks ... ugh

TheBacon
Feb 8, 2012

#essereFerrari

Man the 550 is just loving gorgeous to me. 550/360/430 were my bedroom poster cars though and will forever hold that place in my heart. Personally I think the Ferrari design gap stops at the 330 and goes until 456 (which I really don’t mind) the 458 I think is the sexiest mid engine they made and the best motor, but RIP third pedal.

madeintaipei
Jul 13, 2012

TheBacon posted:

Man the 550 is just loving gorgeous to me. 550/360/430 were my bedroom poster cars though and will forever hold that place in my heart. Personally I think the Ferrari design gap stops at the 330 and goes until 456 (which I really don’t mind) the 458 I think is the sexiest mid engine they made and the best motor, but RIP third pedal.

'Sup, fellow 550 admirer. The 456 is an underappreciated design, IMO. Looks great as a sedan and wagon, too.

TheBacon
Feb 8, 2012

#essereFerrari

madeintaipei posted:

'Sup, fellow 550 admirer. The 456 is an underappreciated design, IMO. Looks great as a sedan and wagon, too.

Sultan of Brunei may be an absolute piece of poo poo, but boy did he (and they) have impeccable taste in cars.

Colostomy Bag
Jan 11, 2016

:lesnick: C-Bangin' it :lesnick:

I like the 456. Crazy the price difference between an auto and manual. Same with (I think?) 599.

Olympic Mathlete
Feb 25, 2011

:h:


xzzy posted:

The Roma looks too much like an Aston Martin to me. Which is fine, the Vanquish is a good looking car. But I won't be hanging any posters of a Ferrari Vanquish.

That Omolagto though. :allears:

Roma looks genuinely worse than the Mazda RX Vision concept which is weird considering it's a Ferrari... Though it's now specifically Ferrari designing rather than Pinifarina so that explains why things have gotten more busy looking which really isn't what Ferrari design has been in the past.

Omo looks good because it's essentially an FF variation with a bit more meat. :v:

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

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OK yeah, that Omologata I can deffo get behind. It's screaming "250 GTO" in my face and I love that.

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Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin

Data Graham posted:

OK yeah, that Omologata I can deffo get behind. It's screaming "250 GTO" in my face and I love that.

Yeah that's the nicest rear end I've seen on a car in a very long time, and the rest of it is pretty drat good as well.

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