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Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin

space uncle posted:

Terminal velocity of rain is 16-25 MPH:
https://www.uu.edu/dept/physics/scienceguys/2001Mar.cfm#:~:text=A%20smaller%20raindrop%20of%20radius,when%20they%20begin%20their%20descent.

Pee is 95% water, so the remainder is negligible physics wise:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcthree/arti...blems.%E2%80%9D

All mammals (despite bladder size), pee for approximately 21 seconds:
https://www.discovermagazine.com/planet-earth/regardless-of-bladder-size-all-mammals-pee-for-approximately-21-seconds-with-video-goodness

Let's assume the piss starts from rest and reaches a terminal velocity of 25MPH, which is 11.176 m/s. With g= 9.8 m/s^2 this takes 1.14s until it doesn't fall any faster.

In 1.14s the piss travels 6.48m using the
deltaX = t*(v+v0)/2 equation.

In the remaining 20s of pissing it is traveling at 11.176 m/s, so it travels a further 223.52m.

So if you start pissing at a height of 230m, you will finish your piss before the first drop hits the ground.

For an example of what you need to piss off of to achieve this feat:
http://www.bluebulbprojects.com/measureofthings/results.php?comp=distance&unit=m&amt=230&sort=pr&p=1

The best piss object they list is the Eiffel Tower, which gives you plenty of margin to piss from the top and meet your goal. The Golden Gate Bridge is pretty close to ideal, pissing wise. The Washington Monument, Space Needle, and St. Paul's Cathedral are all a bit too short.

bless you space uncle

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LifeSunDeath
Jan 4, 2007

still gay rights and smoke weed every day
Sadly, there is no known structure tall enough for me to pee off of without my penis making contact with the ground due to its extreme length.

The Bloop
Jul 5, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

LifeSunDeath posted:

Sadly, there is no known structure tall enough for me to pee off of without my penis making contact with the ground due to its extreme length.

It really is time to start working on that space elevator

Trevor Hale
Dec 8, 2008

What have I become, my Swedish friend?

Data Graham posted:

All Mammals Pee For 21 Seconds is my favorite useless fact

I remember when that research won an award and it was the most mesmerizing thing I’d ever read.

edit: wait. If I jump from the Golden Gate Bridge into water, I will die. Will not X amount of water dropped on me from the height of the Golden Gate Bridge kill me?

edit edit: oh I guess that’s terminal velocity I’m not counting for

StillFullyTerrible
Feb 16, 2020

you should have left Let's Play open for public view, Lowtax

space uncle posted:

Impossible according to this nerd:

https://www.quora.com/How-much-water-would-have-to-be-dropped-on-a-person-from-a-certain-height-to-kill-them

You can drown someone, but you can’t crush someone with water.

if they're on a surface like concrete, the impact from a sufficiently large amount of water can very easily smash their head into the ground hard enough to kill them

StillFullyTerrible
Feb 16, 2020

you should have left Let's Play open for public view, Lowtax

Trevor Hale posted:

I remember when that research won an award and it was the most mesmerizing thing I’d ever read.

edit: wait. If I jump from the Golden Gate Bridge into water, I will die. Will not X amount of water dropped on me from the height of the Golden Gate Bridge kill me?

edit edit: oh I guess that’s terminal velocity I’m not counting for

the surface tension of the water acting as a solid for an instant is what kills you when you drop onto it from a great height

Bloody Hedgehog
Dec 12, 2003

💥💥🤯💥💥
Gotta nuke something

StillFullyTerrible posted:

if they're on a surface like concrete, the impact from a sufficiently large amount of water can very easily smash their head into the ground hard enough to kill them

Yeah. Water from a lower height would actually be more dangerous, as it would still be a coherent mass that could slam you. Any amount of water dropped from skyscraper height would just atomize and be a nice rainshower by the time it got to the ground.

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin

StillFullyTerrible posted:

the surface tension of the water acting as a solid for an instant is what kills you when you drop onto it from a great height

It's got nothing to do with the surface tension, it's about the fact that water really doesn't like to compress, and that when you hit it hard enough it will try to compress because it can't get out of your way fast enough.

Same deal as re-entry into the atmosphere. It's not friction that burns things up, it's the air compressing in front of the object hitting the atmosphere at several kilometers per second.

Trevor Hale
Dec 8, 2008

What have I become, my Swedish friend?

Memento posted:

It's got nothing to do with the surface tension, it's about the fact that water really doesn't like to compress, and that when you hit it hard enough it will try to compress because it can't get out of your way fast enough.

Same deal as re-entry into the atmosphere. It's not friction that burns things up, it's the air compressing in front of the object hitting the atmosphere at several kilometers per second.

So the air resistance on the way down when dropping water from a height starts the compression before it gets to my head? Whereas me jumping from a bridge doesn’t turn me into a shower so I hit the water like the tubby gently caress I am and explode against the un-compressed surface?

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

Bloody Hedgehog posted:

Any amount of water dropped from skyscraper height would just atomize and be a nice rainshower by the time it got to the ground.

i suspect this is untrue for amounts such as the volume of lake ontario, etc

Bloody Hedgehog
Dec 12, 2003

💥💥🤯💥💥
Gotta nuke something

Sagebrush posted:

i suspect this is untrue for amounts such as the volume of lake ontario, etc

Look, the Aqua Incident of Pittsburgh only happened once. There's no need to bring it up again.

Chard
Aug 24, 2010




Trevor Hale posted:

So the air resistance on the way down when dropping water from a height starts the compression before it gets to my head? Whereas me jumping from a bridge doesn’t turn me into a shower so I hit the water like the tubby gently caress I am and explode against the un-compressed surface?

correct, you will decompress faster than water compresses

Somfin
Oct 25, 2010

In my🦚 experience🛠️ the big things🌑 don't teach you anything🤷‍♀️.

Nap Ghost

Bloody Hedgehog posted:

Look, the Aqua Incident of Pittsburgh only happened once. There's no need to bring it up again.

More like Pissburg

Code Jockey
Jan 24, 2006

69420 basic bytes free
This thread has been remarkably informative today, thanks all

WaltherFeng
May 15, 2013

50 thousand people used to live here. Now, it's the Mushroom Kingdom.

PainterofCrap posted:

^^ bien sur! ^^^


Passing laws to restrict cosmic ray bombardment to own the libs

Pretty sure that's just the plot of every Gundam ever made.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

The Bloop posted:

It really is time to start working on that space elevator

Tie one end of your dick to the ground and be your own counterweight.

BonHair
Apr 28, 2007

We know that humans pee for 21 seconds, and we can probably find out the average volume. What we need now is the speed water needs to penetrate skin and/or break bone, and we can go backwards and calculate how small the urethra must be to unload the volume at the given speed within the 21 seconds.

Big Bad Beetleborg
Apr 8, 2007

Things may come to those who wait...but only the things left by those who hustle.

Or, given a fixed urethra dimension, the bladder volume which would result in said velocity once expelled within 21s

Yestermoment
Jul 27, 2007

Welcome to...

Big Bad Beetleborg posted:

urethra dimension

Stoatbringer
Sep 15, 2004

naw, you love it you little ho-bot :roboluv:


big tiddy forklift-certified gf

flavor.flv
Apr 18, 2008

I got a letter from the government the other day
opened it, read it
it said they was bitches




https://va.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_qgkg4yULmI1xf5o27.mp4

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule



I LOLd

Pissed Ape Sexist
Apr 19, 2008

This is a startling and wonderful development

snergle
Aug 3, 2013

A kind little mouse!

A HORNY SWEARENGEN posted:

Trying to do the math on how wide your urethra would be to produce a column of water with enough mass to kill someone and realizing it's too advanced for me so I'll see what my physics professor has to say.

For now, we can assume 200 gallons of shaving cream dumped in 2 seconds from 30 feet was nearly fatal to the actor who played Walter Peck in Ghostbusters, so approximately a 9 foot diameter urethra with a 250 gallon bladder with no bottleneck should do the trick.

what if i went the other way how tiny do i have to make my uretha to make a bullet stream because im pretty good at male keggels but real bad at sounding.

LifeSunDeath
Jan 4, 2007

still gay rights and smoke weed every day

The Anime Liker
Aug 8, 2009

by VideoGames
The normal psi of a urine stream is about 0.5 and a water jet cutter runs about 90,000 psi.

So if you want to kill someone with your piss laser you'd need to have roughly a 0.75mm urethra (average is about 9mm) and ureter smooth muscle contractions that have the force equivalent of being able to lift 600 tons in order to still only have an effective killing range of about 6".

Clearly the superior killing piss is the wide bore.

LifeSunDeath
Jan 4, 2007

still gay rights and smoke weed every day

A HORNY SWEARENGEN posted:

The normal psi of a urine stream is about 0.5 and a water jet cutter runs about 90,000 psi.

So if you want to kill someone with your piss laser you'd need to have roughly a 0.75mm urethra (average is about 9mm) and ureter smooth muscle contractions that have the force equivalent of being able to lift 600 tons in order to still only have an effective killing range of about 6".

Clearly the superior killing piss is the wide bore.

Also what they don't ever mention with water jets is they have an abrasive powder in them that does the actual cutting. So you need some serious kidney stones in there.

flavor.flv
Apr 18, 2008

I got a letter from the government the other day
opened it, read it
it said they was bitches




A HORNY SWEARENGEN posted:

you'd need to have roughly a 0.75mm urethra (average is about 9mm)

This is very concerning

Galewolf
Jan 9, 2007

The human gallbladder is indeed a puzzle!
Just wanted to drop by and say that I appreciate random forklift operator / welder memes posted irregularly in this thread despite being an white collar virgin.

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?

RandomFerret posted:

This is very concerning

There is no way it's right lmao

Catpain Slack
Apr 1, 2014

BAAAAAAH

A HORNY SWEARENGEN posted:

The normal psi of a urine stream is about 0.5 and a water jet cutter runs about 90,000 psi.

So if you want to kill someone with your piss laser you'd need to have roughly a 0.75mm urethra (average is about 9mm) and ureter smooth muscle contractions that have the force equivalent of being able to lift 600 tons in order to still only have an effective killing range of about 6".

Clearly the superior killing piss is the wide bore.

You should really ease up on the bicycle pumps my dude.

The Anime Liker
Aug 8, 2009

by VideoGames

RandomFerret posted:

This is very concerning

Keep in mind the pp opening is a tapered end so pee doesn't dribble out, but in stages the urethra runs from 15mm at the bladder to 4-9mm for the rest of the trip then there's a "nozzle" at the urethral opening about 2-3mm.

A theoretical small bore piss laser would require a 0.75mm bore or smaller for the urethra with a larger bore at the bladder which would ramp up the enormous 600 MegaPascal forces required to cut through meat with a piss beam without abrasives.

Android Apocalypse
Apr 28, 2009

The future is
AUTOMATED
and you are
OBSOLETE

Illegal Hen

A HORNY SWEARENGEN posted:

The normal psi of a urine stream is about 0.5 and a water jet cutter runs about 90,000 psi.

So if you want to kill someone with your piss laser you'd need to have roughly a 0.75mm urethra (average is about 9mm) and ureter smooth muscle contractions that have the force equivalent of being able to lift 600 tons in order to still only have an effective killing range of about 6".

Clearly the superior killing piss is the wide bore.
Great, now we're getting into urethra caliber arguments. We'll have the boomers barging in arguing for .45 ACP (Automatic Colt Piss) saying "TwO wOrLd WaRs!" The FBI will experiment with 10mm but then settle for .40 S&W (Stream & Whizz), which nobody will like. In the end we'll all settle back to 9mm Parabellend.

The Anime Liker
Aug 8, 2009

by VideoGames
7.62 (x 54R)

The nazi-killingest piss bore.

Slippery
May 16, 2004


Muscles Boxcar

space uncle posted:


The best piss object they list is the Eiffel Tower, which gives you plenty of margin to piss from the top and meet your goal. The Golden Gate Bridge is pretty close to ideal, pissing wise. The Washington Monument, Space Needle, and St. Paul's Cathedral are all a bit too short.

This is amazing, thank you for the piss math. I will be using this in casual conversation in the weeks to come. Truly SA is a bastion of knowledge.

Superterranean
May 3, 2005

after we lit this one, nothing was ever the same

Slippery posted:

Truly SA is a bastion of knowledge.

font of knowledge, surely. :colbert:

The Bloop
Jul 5, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

Galewolf posted:

Just wanted to drop by and say that I appreciate random forklift operator / welder memes posted irregularly in this thread despite being an white collar virgin.

White Collar Virgin sounds like a band name or a mixed drink or buddy comedy movie

Slippery
May 16, 2004


Muscles Boxcar

Yestermoment posted:

Welcome to...

Dehumanize yourself and face to piss-stream

Slippery
May 16, 2004


Muscles Boxcar

Superterranean posted:

font of knowledge, surely. :colbert:

You're right, I was thinking as I posted that I needed a better word!

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Unkempt
May 24, 2003

...perfect spiral, scientists are still figuring it out...
Simply piss off a building in extremely cold weather to impale a passerby with a shaft of frozen urine.

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