Tool thread: hammering on things was a minor secondary function of these tools

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asdf32: May 15, 2010; I lust for childrens' deaths. Ask me about how I don't care if my kids die.

Separate post would you buy Harbor Freights tool drawers? They�re a lot cheaper than Husky and seem to have good reviews? I want something for the garage that won�t be used that heavily.

https://www.harborfreight.com/46-in...6MaAgCeEALw_wcB

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Rutibex: Sep 9, 2001; by Fluffdaddy

asdf32 posted:

Separate post would you buy Harbor Freights tool drawers? They�re a lot cheaper than Husky and seem to have good reviews? I want something for the garage that won�t be used that heavily.

https://www.harborfreight.com/46-in...6MaAgCeEALw_wcB

Its kind of hard to mess up sheet metal drawers.

# ? Nov 1, 2020 15:23

armorer: Aug 6, 2012; I like metal.

asdf32 posted:

Separate post would you buy Harbor Freights tool drawers? They’re a lot cheaper than Husky and seem to have good reviews? I want something for the garage that won’t be used that heavily.

https://www.harborfreight.com/46-in...6MaAgCeEALw_wcB

I have a different HF toolchest for home use and it's been totally fine for 7 years now. I would 100% buy it again if needed.

# ? Nov 1, 2020 15:24

Kaiser Schnitzel: Mar 29, 2006; Schnitzel mit uns

Cannon_Fodder posted:

While installing a bearing to my cutter head on my jointer, trying to get a new Shelix head on, I put too much pressure on the bearing housing and snapped it in half. Too much liberal application of the swing press and a hollow, deep socket to get it seated. I'm a loving idiot and very disappointed. It's been a silly few weeks.

that seems, uh, bad. poo poo happens. Is that housing cast into the body of the machine or like a pillow block that bolts on?

# ? Nov 1, 2020 15:27

Catatron Prime: Aug 23, 2010; IT ME; Toilet Rascal

mobby_6kl posted:

I'm also looking to get my dad some tools because there's something always missing when he needs it around the house. He's not really a DIY guy so it's just basic maintenance in the house + bicycle. I know the kits are generally not recommended but I don't think the occasional use would justify a $100 set of Wiha screwdrivers, Snap-on ratchets, etc.

I�ll be the voice of contrary opinion and say that I really like those 300 piece mechanics sets in a blow molded case. Everything you need is right there, organized, portable, and ready to go.

You could get something like that for sockets and wrenches, and also a bucket boss and fill it with the basics. Screwdriver set, hammer, rubber mallet, drill, drill bit and driver set, decent tape measure, set of pliers and a level, box cutter, eyepro, hearing protection, gloves, duct tape, electrical tape, painters tape, sharpie and carpenters pencil, circular saw, and a hacksaw. Hazard fraught would be good, or there�s tons of great combo tool deals coming up on black friday. You can also buy a small presorted fastener kit to toss in there as well.

Honestly the yato kit with the hammer and stuff would probably get the same amount of use if he�s gone this long without the basics.

# ? Nov 1, 2020 15:37

Rutibex: Sep 9, 2001; by Fluffdaddy

OSU_Matthew posted:

also a bucket boss and fill it with the basics.

Oh drat thats such a good idea. I already carry my tools around in a big bucket, this would increase its capabilities exponentially

# ? Nov 1, 2020 15:40

asdf32: May 15, 2010; I lust for childrens' deaths. Ask me about how I don't care if my kids die.

OSU_Matthew posted:

I�ll be the voice of contrary opinion and say that I really like those 300 piece mechanics sets in a blow molded case. Everything you need is right there, organized, portable, and ready to go.

You could get something like that for sockets and wrenches, and also a bucket boss and fill it with the basics. Screwdriver set, hammer, rubber mallet, drill, drill bit and driver set, decent tape measure, set of pliers and a level, box cutter, eyepro, hearing protection, gloves, duct tape, electrical tape, painters tape, sharpie and carpenters pencil, circular saw, and a hacksaw. Hazard fraught would be good, or there�s tons of great combo tool deals coming up on black friday. You can also buy a small presorted fastener kit to toss in there as well.

Honestly the yato kit with the hammer and stuff would probably get the same amount of use if he�s gone this long without the basics.

Agreed. Those sets are a good way to get the basics.

when building up a tool set give some attention to misc tools like an 8-in-one paint scraper that has the weird curved shape - great for prying random crap. Vice grips which can be a 3rd hand. Right angle needle nose pliers. Headlamp. Klein 11-1 screwdriver. A leather man like multi tool which gives you a second copy of many important ones. Great scissors and sheers.

# ? Nov 1, 2020 15:46

Motronic: Nov 6, 2009

Rutibex posted:

Its kind of hard to mess up sheet metal drawers.

It really isn't. There are plenty of places to cheap out from the gauge of the metal, the drawer slides, the casters, less metal/fewer bends where you can't see things to save on operations.......

But those are pretty good.

There's a Garage Journal thread that I can't find the link to where someone goes through and compares a bunch of boxes. Many of the HF ones scored quire well and significantly better than store brand tool names.

# ? Nov 1, 2020 15:47

sharkytm: Oct 9, 2003; Ba

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Motronic posted:

It really isn't. There are plenty of places to cheap out from the gauge of the metal, the drawer slides, the casters, less metal/fewer bends where you can't see things to save on operations.......

But those are pretty good.

There's a Garage Journal thread that I can't find the link to where someone goes through and compares a bunch of boxes. Many of the HF ones scored quire well and significantly better than store brand tool names.

Yeah. I'm looking at you, Craftsman. The HF ball bearing stuff is incredible value for money. I've got a 44" that I've had for 10+years and it's still good as new. Absolutely worth the money. The 5-drawer cart is excellent as well.

# ? Nov 1, 2020 15:53

Motronic: Nov 6, 2009

sharkytm posted:

The 5-drawer cart is excellent as well.

That's been my main box with the "go to" tools in it for about 5 years now.

# ? Nov 1, 2020 16:07

mobby_6kl: Aug 9, 2009; by Fluffdaddy

Rutibex posted:

This looks like the best tool kit you posted, because it has a tape measure and a level (unlike the other kits). To work on bicycles you mostly just need a socket wrench, and that would cover it. Any kind of more specialized bike tools (for messing with the chain or something) would not be included in a generic kit.

Thanks, I think he already has a level and tape measure somewhere but I'm sure it'd be good to have it always in the kit. It's also like half the price of the others. Not to cheap out on beloved dad but maybe there's something else useful I could get him in addition.

asdf32 posted:

Didn’t project farm do a comparison that included one knockoff? I think it did well. If you’re looking for bargains consider Harbor Freight which is sort of a reputable knockoff.

That was the impact driver which I already have and yeah it's very good IMO. Lidl and our HF equivalent do have cheap tools (with warranties even) but they either don't come with batteries and/or have their own snowflake system, I'd rather stick with Makita compatible stuff at point. It's like having a bunch of Canon lenses at this point.

OSU_Matthew posted:

I’ll be the voice of contrary opinion and say that I really like those 300 piece mechanics sets in a blow molded case. Everything you need is right there, organized, portable, and ready to go.

You could get something like that for sockets and wrenches, and also a bucket boss and fill it with the basics. Screwdriver set, hammer, rubber mallet, drill, drill bit and driver set, decent tape measure, set of pliers and a level, box cutter, eyepro, hearing protection, gloves, duct tape, electrical tape, painters tape, sharpie and carpenters pencil, circular saw, and a hacksaw. Hazard fraught would be good, or there’s tons of great combo tool deals coming up on black friday. You can also buy a small presorted fastener kit to toss in there as well.

Honestly the yato kit with the hammer and stuff would probably get the same amount of use if he’s gone this long without the basics.

That's my feeling too... the kits are probably rightfully disliked by professionals who'd benefit from top quality gear for daily use but for occasional home stuff it's a pretty affordable and convenient solution.

He does have a lot of the basic tools already of course (so the bucket organizer is a great idea help with those) but as I mentioned it's mainly that stuff is sometimes lost or there are just gaps and we have to go to the hardware to pick up one screwdriver or something dumb like that.

# ? Nov 1, 2020 16:13

armorer: Aug 6, 2012; I like metal.

mobby_6kl posted:

Has anyone tried one of the cheapo Chinese drills? I've used a knockoff Makita impact for a while to take off lug nuts and various other stuck nuts and bolts on the car with great success so considering I'd need a drill much less often, I just wanted to get something compatible with the battery.

https://www.banggood.com/18V-Cordle...ur_warehouse=CZ
https://www.banggood.com/88VF-Recha...ur_warehouse=CN
Maybe another possibility could be to get an adapter and drill with the impact the few occasions that I need it.

I like brushless stuff but would it be worth the difference? Unlike the impact, there aren't many proper reviews I could find so this would be a bit of a gamble, though not a huge one obviously.

I'm also looking to get my dad some tools because there's something always missing when he needs it around the house. He's not really a DIY guy so it's just basic maintenance in the house + bicycle. I know the kits are generally not recommended but I don't think the occasional use would justify a $100 set of Wiha screwdrivers, Snap-on ratchets, etc.

So this Makita kit seems to be popular and is well reviewed but I don't think he'd need the million bits or sockets that make up most of it

This thing from Lidl seems like it would be more useful, but maybe a bit too minimalistic?

Maybe one of these Yato kits, the last one looks like would have more useful stuff for around the house. Do you need any weird stuff for bicycles?

Specifically regarding tools for bicycles, there are a lot of oddball tools that you need for various things depending on what you're doing. A socket set, hex wrenches, and screwdrivers get you a ton of the way there though. As you start to get into stuff like rebuilding wheels you'll pretty quickly need some cone wrenches. Then for changing gearing, or replacing worn out bottom brackets you start to need very specific things like a shimano cassette tool, bottom bracket tool, or various freewheel removal tools depending on the age and make of the bike. None of those things are all that expensive, generally less than :10bux:

I suggest you buy them as you encounter the need for them, rather than trying to predict what you'll need.

Also, a bike stand is not necessary to do the vast majority of work, but it really does make life a lot easier. At this point I have a big old pile of oddball tools from helping all my friends with bike issues through this pandemic, since bikes are unobtanium and bike shops are overloaded, but most of the specialized tools only get used like once or twice for very specific things and then just sit around for months.

# ? Nov 1, 2020 16:22

Cannon_Fodder: Jul 17, 2007; "Hey, where did Steve go?"
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Kaiser Schnitzel posted:

that seems, uh, bad. poo poo happens. Is that housing cast into the body of the machine or like a pillow block that bolts on?

Thank gently caress it's a pillow block.

# ? Nov 1, 2020 16:23

AFewBricksShy: Jun 19, 2003; of a full load.

Someone has to make a storage case for standard screw boxes, right? Like one of those plastic organizers with the compartments sized to the screw/nail boxes?

# ? Nov 1, 2020 18:39

MrOnBicycle: Jan 18, 2008; Wait wat?

Speaking of Tool box drawers. I really need to get some sort of foam inserts to arrange tools in so that they don't roll about / get put in wrong places. That's the negative of buying empty tool box drawers.

# ? Nov 1, 2020 20:26

mobby_6kl: Aug 9, 2009; by Fluffdaddy

armorer posted:

Specifically regarding tools for bicycles, there are a lot of oddball tools that you need for various things depending on what you're doing. A socket set, hex wrenches, and screwdrivers get you a ton of the way there though. As you start to get into stuff like rebuilding wheels you'll pretty quickly need some cone wrenches. Then for changing gearing, or replacing worn out bottom brackets you start to need very specific things like a shimano cassette tool, bottom bracket tool, or various freewheel removal tools depending on the age and make of the bike. None of those things are all that expensive, generally less than I suggest you buy them as you encounter the need for them, rather than trying to predict what you'll need.

Also, a bike stand is not necessary to do the vast majority of work, but it really does make life a lot easier. At this point I have a big old pile of oddball tools from helping all my friends with bike issues through this pandemic, since bikes are unobtanium and bike shops are overloaded, but most of the specialized tools only get used like once or twice for very specific things and then just sit around for months.

Cool, thanks. I'll stick with a generic set and he can get whatever extra stuff he needs for the bike as needed.

# ? Nov 1, 2020 21:20

A Proper Uppercut: Sep 30, 2008

Bought some new mics for work. These were always my favorite style over the ratcheting thimble thingy.

# ? Nov 2, 2020 00:52

Cannon_Fodder: Jul 17, 2007; "Hey, where did Steve go?"
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Those are beautiful.

The only tools I deal with at work house behind their titles and their keyboard. I would love a trade job.

# ? Nov 2, 2020 01:11

Rutibex: Sep 9, 2001; by Fluffdaddy

I bought a micrometer at a pawn shop once. I don't have any use for it, anything I need to measure would be much better suited to digital calipers. But I wanted it anyway because it looked like such a beautiful instrument and it was $10

# ? Nov 2, 2020 01:45

oXDemosthenesXo: May 9, 2005; Grimey Drawer

The only thing I don't see mentioned that's essential for working on bikes is a good mallet.

Bike mechanic buddy of mine said they only took bikes to the back room to work on them so that customers didn't see how hard they had to hammer on things sometimes.

# ? Nov 2, 2020 02:49

armorer: Aug 6, 2012; I like metal.

oXDemosthenesXo posted:

The only thing I don't see mentioned that's essential for working on bikes is a good mallet.

Bike mechanic buddy of mine said they only took bikes to the back room to work on them so that customers didn't see how hard they had to hammer on things sometimes.

Ah, yeah that's a good point. I have ... a lot of hammers, so I often overlook that not everyone does.

# ? Nov 2, 2020 03:08

Kaiser Schnitzel: Mar 29, 2006; Schnitzel mit uns

Cannon_Fodder posted:

Thank gently caress it's a pillow block.

Cannon_Fodder posted:

Those are beautiful.

The only tools I deal with at work house behind their titles and their keyboard. I would love a trade job.

It's all fun and games until you do nothing but sand for 8 hours a day and it's 95 degrees and you're covered in sawdust/sweat paste.

# ? Nov 2, 2020 03:34

A Proper Uppercut: Sep 30, 2008

Kaiser Schnitzel posted:

It's all fun and games until you do nothing but sand for 8 hours a day and it's 95 degrees and you're covered in sawdust/sweat paste.

Ha, yea there are definitely easier trade jobs than others.

# ? Nov 2, 2020 10:35

wesleywillis: Dec 30, 2016; SUCK A MALE CAMEL'S DICK WITH MIRACLE WHIP!!

^^^^^ Yup, Drilling is a motherfuck.
But I've learned a shitload of stuff. Tools, hydraulics, trailer wiring, truck wiring, metal fabrication, wood working, dirt, more dirt, a bit if geotechnical engineering you fuckin name it.

# ? Nov 2, 2020 12:35

Giant Metal Robot: Jun 14, 2005; Taco Defender

I've lost too many hours looking for construction shoes that I can slip on when I move from the deck where I cut materials to indoors.

I guess crocs for work are the best choice?

# ? Nov 2, 2020 13:25

TacoHavoc: Dec 31, 2007; It's taco-y and havoc-y...at the same time!

Untied or loosely tied work boots?
Dunno how much foot protection you need, but comedy option of Sperry's/boat shoes/some other slip-on with an actual sole?

# ? Nov 2, 2020 15:28

Cannon_Fodder: Jul 17, 2007; "Hey, where did Steve go?"
Design by Kamoc

Kaiser Schnitzel posted:

It's all fun and games until you do nothing but sand for 8 hours a day and it's 95 degrees and you're covered in sawdust/sweat paste.

I'm a glutton for punshment.

Bring it on. :getin:

# ? Nov 2, 2020 15:57

Jaded Burnout: Jul 10, 2004

Giant Metal Robot posted:

I guess crocs for work are the best choice?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcjgrB9vTec

TacoHavoc posted:

Untied or loosely tied work boots?

This is what I do, though it's not great.

# ? Nov 2, 2020 16:00

Trabant: Nov 26, 2011; All systems nominal.

Giant Metal Robot posted:

I've lost too many hours looking for construction shoes that I can slip on when I move from the deck where I cut materials to indoors.

I guess crocs for work are the best choice?

Maybe a work version of a Chelsea boot, like the Blundstone ones?

# ? Nov 2, 2020 16:01

Kaiser Schnitzel: Mar 29, 2006; Schnitzel mit uns

Giant Metal Robot posted:

I've lost too many hours looking for construction shoes that I can slip on when I move from the deck where I cut materials to indoors.

I guess crocs for work are the best choice?

Pull on work boots? I�ve seen a few finish carpenters with a pair of Birkenstock clogs outside the door when working on finished floors that are socks only.

# ? Nov 2, 2020 16:42

sharkytm: Oct 9, 2003; Ba

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Kaiser Schnitzel posted:

Pull on work boots? I�ve seen a few finish carpenters with a pair of Birkenstock clogs outside the door when working on finished floors that are socks only.

Around here, low-top Muck boots are pretty common. Pull-on quickly, waterproof, etc. In winter, some guys use overshoes over normal boots.

# ? Nov 2, 2020 18:07

JEEVES420: Feb 16, 2005; The world is a mess... and I just need to rule it

All of my shoes are easy slip on/slip off. Who actually unties shoes?

# ? Nov 2, 2020 18:10

sharkytm: Oct 9, 2003; Ba

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JEEVES420 posted:

All of my shoes are easy slip on/slip off. Who actually unties shoes?

I do. I've got small ankles and wide feet. If I don't tie the laces on my 6" Red Wings, they rub the poo poo out of the back of my heel from my foot sliding up. If I need to quickly swap them on/off, I can pull hard enough to get some slack, then pop the laces out of the hooks. I very rarely do this, but it's feasible.

# ? Nov 2, 2020 18:24

powderific: May 13, 2004; Grimey Drawer

Trabant posted:

Maybe a work version of a Chelsea boot, like the Blundstone ones?

Love my blundstones, but for them to stay on right they're pretty tight and I need two hands to pull them on.

sharkytm posted:

Around here, low-top Muck boots are pretty common. Pull-on quickly, waterproof, etc. In winter, some guys use overshoes over normal boots.

Seconding this suggestion. My bogs work great for slipping on and off at the door. If you actually have a use for taller boots, I don't think it makes much difference for how quick and easy they are to get on and off since the calf area is pretty loose.

# ? Nov 2, 2020 18:32

MrOnBicycle: Jan 18, 2008; Wait wat?

JEEVES420 posted:

All of my shoes are easy slip on/slip off. Who actually unties shoes?

Ah yes, the story of how I ruin all my shoes.

# ? Nov 2, 2020 18:41

Mr. Mambold: Feb 13, 2011; Aha. Nice post.

JEEVES420 posted:

All of my shoes are easy slip on/slip off. Who actually unties shoes?

Me, the guy who has needed orthopedic shoes since childhood. And if any of you spend hours a day doing this stuff on a slab floor, invest in the best cushioned shoes you can. Your back and knees will thank you 30 years down the road.

# ? Nov 2, 2020 19:13

Thumposaurus: Jul 24, 2007

I've got some Ariat Turbo Chelsea boots I wear for work(in a kitchen)

My work place has been shut down since the pandemic and I left them in my locker so I got another pair for at home/yard work.

They have a composite steel toe carbon fiber shank waterproof non slip soles slip on and off easily.

Comedy option clogs I used to wear Dansko/Sanita clogs at work but after the 4th pair the sole split down the middle I've given up on them.

Thumposaurus fucked around with this message at 19:36 on Nov 2, 2020

# ? Nov 2, 2020 19:34

wesleywillis: Dec 30, 2016; SUCK A MALE CAMEL'S DICK WITH MIRACLE WHIP!!

Someone needs to make Velcro fastened work boots. Problem is everyone on site would make fun of you. Kinda like the guy on the construction site with Ryobi tools.

# ? Nov 2, 2020 23:53

canyoneer: Sep 13, 2005; I only have canyoneyes for you

wesleywillis posted:

Someone needs to make Velcro fastened work boots. Problem is everyone on site would make fun of you. Kinda like the guy on the construction site with Ryobi tools.

It's one way to be sure that nobody will steal them

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# ? May 19, 2024 19:51

SpartanIvy: May 18, 2007; Hair Elf

wesleywillis posted:

Someone needs to make Velcro fastened work boots. Problem is everyone on site would make fun of you. Kinda like the guy on the construction site with Ryobi tools.

Now I want to see Ryobi brand Velcro shoes

# ? Nov 3, 2020 00:06

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