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GlyphGryph posted:The only real problem there is that the vast majority of the skill checks in the game are passive and invisible. But that's pretty much the way I played first time through anyway, yeah. I’ve got Shivers and Physical Instrument up to 12/10, so I’ve been leaning on those a lot. I’ll probably go back and do a Psyche and Intellect build after this, but my goal this time is just to get through the game as a free wheeling super cop. I just got a little Savoire Faire dialogue that wanted me to be like a free market capitalist? How are those things connected? I thought that skill was about being smooth socially.
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Yorkshire Pudding posted:I’ve got Shivers and Physical Instrument up to 12/10, so I’ve been leaning on those a lot. I’ll probably go back and do a Psyche and Intellect build after this, but my goal this time is just to get through the game as a free wheeling super cop. Are you saying being the baddest hustler in the neoliberal hood ISN'T being smooth, socially? Also taking that thought literally conjures small amounts of money in your pockets every time you say something in support of capitalism and/or the free market.
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Yorkshire Pudding posted:I just got a little Savoire Faire dialogue that wanted me to be like a free market capitalist? How are those things connected? I thought that skill was about being smooth socially. it is a misconception that skills have their own ideologies; rather, they have ideological affinities, so to speak Savoir-faire is a French expression that refers to do things with refinement, excellence, taste; it is about looking and acting like you are out of a Giorgio Armani ad, and ridiculously expensive fine shoes that are worth more than half a year's salary are only possible in capitalism! the only skill that seems far out in those moments is Empathy for Moralism when advocating the Kingdom of Conscience. Given the whole sinister overtones that the game makes about it, that skill being its advocate is just... sinister
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dead gay comedy forums posted:it is a misconception that skills have their own ideologies; rather, they have ideological affinities, so to speak I always connected that with the idea of centrism not being willing to do much, if anything, to lessen the suffering of those less fortunate but very visibly and performatively feeling bad for what they're going through
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Nov 3, 2020 06:32
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Also volition is a better communist than rhetoric.
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christmas boots posted:Also volition is a better communist than rhetoric. The Noah Caldwell-Gervais video posted above has a pretty good description of the Rhetoric skill where it represents a guy who's learned all the words but none of the meaning. It's someone who gets really into theory because they think it will bolster their arguments but they don't argue to actually try to change anyone's mind about anything, they argue just to be right.
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christmas boots posted:I always connected that with the idea of centrism not being willing to do much, if anything, to lessen the suffering of those less fortunate but very visibly and performatively feeling bad for what they're going through It's this: I currently have a left wing pm who is incredibly vocal about kindness but is not going to do diddly hopefully I'm wrong
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Nov 3, 2020 07:31
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Rhetoric is a Sophist.
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Robert Kurvitz posted:Rhetoric is your ability to debate. Nitpick, make intellectual discourse. It doesn’t need to be an argument, you can just shoot off your mouth and take hearty pleasure from it. But let’s be honest – mostly Rhetoric just bickers. About politics. All political discourse falls under Rhetoric. You can mold it into a weapon of fascist sable rattling, evicting potato-loving kojkos and deformed himean pygmees left to right. Rid Revachol of aliens in transit! Or become the ultimate liberast (perpetrator of the sin of liberasty), extolling free trade and slimy personal freedoms at the expense of the downtrodden. This is achieved through researching political projects in your Thought Cabinet, then having them supercharge your Rhetoric skill. A souped up, ideologically informed Rhetoric is an impressive beast, but it gets you into trouble. The twist here is that Rhetoric – our persuasion ability – doesn’t really persuade anyone. Most of the time it just makes you new enemies. While your beliefs calcify.
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Rhetoric is Ben Shapiro, got it.
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For a while I thought the political alignments were related to your stats but clearly that’s not the case. I reasoned that the game’s crafted deep enough that people with higher authority stats for example would lean more fascist or communist. But authority isn’t “authoritarian” and religious leaders can have great authority without being pushy, for example.
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the word of the day is liberasty
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Only thing I disagree with him about is that Kim is a moralist. Kim goes out of his way to indicate he is not, in fact, a moralist, although he used to be.
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Fear! Aggression! Half Light is your fight or flight response. This one’s definitely the chattiest of the bunch. Not only does he mix well with a high Physical Instrument, telling you to smash everyone in the face before they strangle you in your sleep, Half Light also has some pretty keen observations.
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EorayMel posted:Fear! Aggression! Half Light is your fight or flight response. This one’s definitely the chattiest of the bunch. Not only does he mix well with a high Physical Instrument, telling you to smash everyone in the face before they strangle you in your sleep, Half Light also has some pretty keen observations. Holy poo poo, is this Harry kicking the ever loving poo poo out of a senile old homeless woman?
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chaosapiant posted:Holy poo poo, is this Harry kicking the ever loving poo poo out of a senile old homeless woman? It's Harry planning to kick the poo poo out of a homeless old woman.
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if harry were an american cop he'd have half-light maxed out and would keep trying to put points in it even when it wouldn't let him
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GlyphGryph posted:Only thing I disagree with him about is that Kim is a moralist. Kim goes out of his way to indicate he is not, in fact, a moralist, although he used to be. Kim is kind of an idealist moralist. He believes in the things that Moralism is supposed to be about rather than the things it actually is about. He's disillusioned from the Moralintern but still believes in the core principles. It's like a Christian who has turned away from the church but not because they've lost their faith, they've just lost their trust in the institution.
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It's implied that Kim used to have revolutionary leanings as a young man before growing up and mellowing into a moralist which he's also since become disillusioned by. He's perfect for radicalization.
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I think it's very important that Kim's reaction to seeing the Phasmid is to want to share its existence with others, by taking the photo. He may be skeptical and disillusioned sometimes, but he is still open to hope, and on seeing it he wants to spread it to others.
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Bar Ran Dun posted:They imply the whole RCM has the potential to be radicalized. It is heavily implied, if not outright stated, that the RCM is an actual revolutionary organization that has been laying low for a few decades.
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PYF is slamming todayRampant Dwickery posted:https://twitter.com/shammikorn/status/1310968205037514752?s=20
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wiegieman posted:It is heavily implied, if not outright stated, that the RCM is an actual revolutionary organization that has been laying low for a few decades. It's too bad more people don't take a look at the RCM and how you're a cop but the way the police as an institution is structured in Reavchol means your status as a cop is completely different than it is in our world.
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Dreylad posted:It's too bad more people don't take a look at the RCM and how you're a cop but the way the police as an institution is structured in Reavchol means your status as a cop is completely different than it is in our world. RCM seems like it’s entirely detectives, which is a different thing from just “cops”
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I just finished a first playthrough of this as a superstar/sorry communist/moralist cop with a broad skillset of 5-8 points in a million skills, mostly intelligence and psyche (plus perception and composure). Incredible game. I can't decide if I want to shelf it for a bit or immediately start a new playthrough as a drunken violence cop.
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EorayMel posted:Fear! Aggression! Half Light is your fight or flight response. This one’s definitely the chattiest of the bunch. Not only does he mix well with a high Physical Instrument, telling you to smash everyone in the face before they strangle you in your sleep, Half Light also has some pretty keen observations. Good old Half-Light. Always correct, and always has everyone's best interest at heart. 
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What happens if all your skills are perfectly average? I know high and low stats can both give bad advice - do you just Colombo the story successfully and go through it normal and bland?
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Eason the Fifth posted:What happens if all your skills are perfectly average? I know high and low stats can both give bad advice - do you just Colombo the story successfully and go through it normal and bland? Say one of the communist or fascist things or gently caress off.
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Arrhythmia posted:Say one of the communist or fascist things or gently caress off. Nah, I'm already an Unbelievably Boring gently caress and the World's Most Laughable Centrist, so I want to double down on this
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Sounds like you need to double down on having thoughts, then immediately forgetting them.
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I haven’t nailed this down yet, but I’m sensing some influence from Cultist Simulator in this game. I still need to finish it though.
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Yorkshire Pudding posted:I haven’t nailed this down yet, but I’m sensing some influence from Cultist Simulator in this game. I still need to finish it though. The uh... Lovecraft card game plate spinning simulator? On the chill visual-novel-cast-as-point-and-click-adventure-game?
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Yeah, but I still don’t know what The Pale is so I’m not sure.
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there's that bit where you summon the spirit of Communism by dividing Cuno into seven parts with the knife you find in the red-chair shack at precisely 4:20am, i guess
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Yorkshire Pudding posted:Yeah, but I still don’t know what The Pale is so I’m not sure. It's dank rear end weed smoke from Garbadol the Stoner at the End of Time.
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