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PittTheElder: Feb 13, 2012; Yes, it's like a lava lamp.

So I've been shopping for new cars for a while, was looking at Elantras, but then I saw the 2021s that are coming down the pipe and drat do they ever look pretty. Really hoping they'll work the panoramic sunroof into it too but that might be asking too much for the compact segment.

Are Jettas the only compact with a bigger than normal sunroof these days?

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prom candy: Dec 16, 2005; Only I may dance

Doesn't the current Elantra hatchback have a pano sunroof?

# ? Nov 3, 2020 14:54

PittTheElder: Feb 13, 2012; Yes, it's like a lava lamp.

Oh yeah the Elantra GT does, but it's been discontinued as of this year I think.

Also eww hatchbacks

# ? Nov 3, 2020 15:56

KYOON GRIFFEY JR: Apr 12, 2010; Runner-up, TRP Sack Race 2021/22

if you want a pano roof you need a big roof

# ? Nov 3, 2020 16:01

PittTheElder: Feb 13, 2012; Yes, it's like a lava lamp.

Yea the inherent conflict in my opinions there has occurred to me :smith:

The pano roof on the 2020 Sonata is amazing mind you, but I think it's nearly a full foot longer than the 2020 Elantra. But even just the extra wide sunroof on >2019 Jettas (and Golfs?) is really nice.

# ? Nov 3, 2020 16:20

KakerMix: Apr 8, 2004; 8.2 M.P.G.

PittTheElder posted:

Also eww hatchbacks

Literally shaking

# ? Nov 3, 2020 16:31

Wheeee: Mar 11, 2001; When a tree grows, it is soft and pliable. But when it's dry and hard, it dies.

Hardness and strength are death's companions. Flexibility and softness are the embodiment of life.

That which has become hard shall not triumph.

PittTheElder posted:

Also eww hatchbacks

what the gently caress

# ? Nov 3, 2020 17:25

antimatt: Sep 12, 2007; ultima ratio regum

PittTheElder posted:

Also eww hatchbacks

Rude.

# ? Nov 3, 2020 19:20

Applebees Appetizer: Jan 23, 2006

PittTheElder posted:

Also eww hatchbacks

# ? Nov 3, 2020 21:34

Sab669: Sep 24, 2009

They look ugly :colbert:

But they are practical, therefore I drive one

# ? Nov 3, 2020 22:08

kill me now: Sep 14, 2003; Why's Hank crying?

'CUZ HE JUST GOT DUNKED ON!

PittTheElder posted:

So I've been shopping for new cars for a while, was looking at Elantras, but then I saw the 2021s that are coming down the pipe and drat do they ever look pretty. Really hoping they'll work the panoramic sunroof into it too but that might be asking too much for the compact segment.

Are Jettas the only compact with a bigger than normal sunroof these days?

MINI Coopers all have pano roof options

# ? Nov 3, 2020 22:11

KYOON GRIFFEY JR: Apr 12, 2010; Runner-up, TRP Sack Race 2021/22

kill me now posted:

MINI Coopers all have pano roof options

for when you want the most reliable part of the car to be the water ingress machine

# ? Nov 3, 2020 22:22

Bandire: Jul 12, 2002; a rabid potato

It is funny to me how many of the people in this thread are rigidly practical in their car buying decisions. I certainly can't fault that at all. Just making an observation.

For most Americans car buying is an almost entirely emotional experience in choosing the most ridiculous and impractical vehicle that they can barely afford.

# ? Nov 3, 2020 22:26

kill me now: Sep 14, 2003; Why's Hank crying?

'CUZ HE JUST GOT DUNKED ON!

KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:

for when you want the most reliable part of the car to be the water ingress machine

Eh, the F5x and F60 generation have been reasonably reliable.

They are also real fun to drive

# ? Nov 3, 2020 22:31

TheBacon: Feb 8, 2012; #essereFerrari

PittTheElder posted:

Also eww hatchbacks

Wrong

# ? Nov 3, 2020 22:37

PittTheElder: Feb 13, 2012; Yes, it's like a lava lamp.

Sab669 posted:

They look ugly

I have never gotten over it. Give me a sedan any day.

# ? Nov 3, 2020 22:44

Russian Bear: Dec 26, 2007

I love hatch backs and wagons, but I also love these large sedans with a hatch that automakers have had to trick americans with. A7 is my favorite, especially the prior generation:

I even like it in boring colors that most of them are out there because they are so under the radar. Surprisingly low also.

# ? Nov 3, 2020 23:07

bull3964: Nov 18, 2000; DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.

The existence of fastbacks is the sedan saying the hatchback is superior.

It's also the reason why sedans shouldn't exist at all anymore.

# ? Nov 3, 2020 23:10

TheBacon: Feb 8, 2012; #essereFerrari

bull3964 posted:

The existence of fastbacks is the sedan saying the hatchback is superior.

It's also the reason why sedans shouldn't exist at all anymore.

Counterpoint, I think all of those and the associated 4 door coupes that go with them are hideous and I would rather have an actual hatchback/wagon or an actual sedan! Like the modern long 4 door coupe fastbacks all try and pull off the kammback but fail. They ain't no GTOs

# ? Nov 3, 2020 23:20

BuckyDoneGun: Nov 30, 2004; fat drunk

Russian Bear posted:

I love hatch backs and wagons, but I also love these large sedans with a hatch that automakers have had to trick americans with. A7 is my favorite, especially the prior generation:

I even like it in boring colors that most of them are out there because they are so under the radar. Surprisingly low also.

A7�s look great in the flesh. Calling them coupes or whatever is dumb still, this form factor isn�t new and we already have a name for it, the liftback.

# ? Nov 4, 2020 01:57

Mr. Apollo: Nov 8, 2000

Unifor (the Canadian union representing auto workers) head Jerry Dias mentioned in an interview that Ford is going to build a new 6.8 L engine at the Windsor engine plant. People are speculating that it may be a destroked version of the 7.3 L V8 and it would be used for the Mustang.

https://windsorstar.com/news/local-news/breaking-unifor-and-ford-reach-tentative-agreement

quote:

Dias said Ford�s Windsor engine plants will begin producing a new 6.8-litre engine in 2022 for the F-150 pickup truck and the Ford Mustang.

BuckyDoneGun posted:

A7�s look great in the flesh. Calling them coupes or whatever is dumb still, this form factor isn�t new and we already have a name for it, the liftback.

To their credit, Audi calls that design a sportback.

Mr. Apollo fucked around with this message at 02:22 on Nov 4, 2020

# ? Nov 4, 2020 02:19

Franco Caution: Jul 18, 2003; Wicked. Tricksy. False.

I kinda like the new look of the Golf R.

https://www.carscoops.com/2020/11/2022-vw-golf-r-debuts-with-315-hp-torque-vectoring-awd-a-manual-and-drift-mode/#lg=1&slide=0

If I squint, it reminds me of an updated mazdaspeed3

Franco Caution fucked around with this message at 03:18 on Nov 4, 2020

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Wistful of Dollars: Aug 25, 2009

PittTheElder posted:

Also eww hatchbacks

great googly-moogly

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Elmnt80: Dec 30, 2012

PittTheElder posted:

Also eww hatchbacks

So wrong it hurts.

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Russian Bear: Dec 26, 2007

BuckyDoneGun posted:

A7�s look great in the flesh. Calling them coupes or whatever is dumb still, this form factor isn�t new and we already have a name for it, the liftback.

Liftback, sportback, both dumb names. It's a hatch.

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Rhyno: Mar 22, 2003; Can't post for 10 years!

You're a hatch

# ? Nov 4, 2020 10:15

i own every Bionicle: Oct 23, 2005; cstm ttle? kthxbye

PittTheElder posted:

eww hatchbacks

# ? Nov 4, 2020 13:14

Olympic Mathlete: Feb 25, 2011

Gentlemen, they are making 3 more 1.5l BRM V16s aka the best sounding car on the planet (this counts as new, right??)

quote:

Every time Formula 1 goes through a rule change which affects the size or type of the its engines, armchair pundits bemoan the fact that they don�t sound as good as the turbos/V12s/V10s/V8s (delete as appropriate).

One thing all can agree on however is that the BRM V16 is the one engine we wish they all sounded like. Well, it�s back, in a faithful recreation of the original P15 single seater 70 years after it first howled in anger. British Racing Motors (BRM) was the country�s first Formula 1 team and, still in existence, will be building three more P15s powered by that fabulously complicated and powerful engine to celebrate its platinum anniversary.

Working from around 20,000 original blueprints and drawings, the task has been entrusted to historic restoration specialists Hall & Hall, founded by former BRM engineer Rick Hall. Utilising chassis numbers assigned in the early �50s the three cars will be built to full FIA standards and therefore eligible for historic racing.

Despite each cylinder displacing less than 100cc, the V16 developed close to 600PS (441kW) thanks to an incredible redline for its day of 12,000rpm and its two-stage supercharger. Little wonder it also became the first F1 car to use disc brakes. Juan Manuel Fangio described it as "the most fantastic car I ever drove � an incredible challenge in every way". It was also raced in its day by Stirling Moss, Jose Froilan Gonzalez, Peter Collins and Peter Walker. Sadly the rules for which it was designed, and would potentially have dominated after early reliability problems were ironed out, were abandoned for the 1953 season.
Having started as government-backed consortium, BRM was sold to the Owen family and the first car will be delivered to the son of Sir Alfred Owen on its completion next spring. John Owen was just ten years old when he first heard the car run and this recreation was the brainchild of Sir Alfred�s grandsons Simon, Paul and Nick.

Now 81, John said: �Watching the likes of the Pampas Bull (Gonzalez) and, in particular, Fangio, master the power of the V16 was very special. And the fabulous noise of the engine still rings in my ears 70 years on!

�In a selfish way, I have always dreamed of hearing that sound again but now I�d also love to share that sensation with others. To hear the V16 screaming at full tilt for the first time is something special � something you never forget.�

Despite winning the championship with a home grown V8 and Graham Hill behind the wheel in 1962, it is the V16 for which BRM is possibly most famous. We are already dreaming of hearing that engine echoing around the Goodwood Motor Circuit where the original car won its first race in the hands of Reg Parnell

https://www.goodwood.com/grr/race/historic/2020/11/you-can-buy-a-new-v16-brm-f1-car/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umO3iqac_4c

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79qhHOQ6ih8

Olympic Mathlete fucked around with this message at 13:27 on Nov 4, 2020

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TheBacon: Feb 8, 2012; #essereFerrari

Russian Bear posted:

Liftback, sportback, both dumb names. It's a hatch.

Don�t sully the good name of hatchback with those abominations!

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LeeMajors: Jan 20, 2005; I've gotta stop fantasizing about Lee Majors...
Ah, one more!

Olympic Mathlete posted:

Gentlemen, they are making 3 more 1.5l BRM V16s aka the best sounding car on the planet (this counts as new, right??)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umO3iqac_4c

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79qhHOQ6ih8

Holy gently caress :swoon:

that SOUND. You weren't kidding.

# ? Nov 4, 2020 15:51

i own every Bionicle: Oct 23, 2005; cstm ttle? kthxbye

Regarding hatchback chat, and how people who don�t like them are wrong, new Golf R dropped:

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/amp34532988/2022-vw-golf-r-revealed/

Looks are mediocre IMO, but a modest power bump, more rear bias than previous models, and a manual are all awesome news. I was sure it was going to be DSG only but it seems like manufacturer are realizing that since mostly car nuts are buying affordable fun cars like this, the Z, the BRZ, Miata, Mustang, etc then they might as well serve them. Rejoice!

# ? Nov 4, 2020 17:31

KYOON GRIFFEY JR: Apr 12, 2010; Runner-up, TRP Sack Race 2021/22

It looks a lot like a Fiat Egea/Tipo hatch. Something about the door line. The C pillar is wrong though.

# ? Nov 4, 2020 17:34

Ror: Oct 21, 2010; 😸Everything's 🗞️ purrfect!💯🤟

One of the few new cars I am genuinely interested in although that thing is gonna be like $45k.

# ? Nov 4, 2020 17:36

bull3964: Nov 18, 2000; DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.

Looks like a Golf. I think we can give up on VW styling the R with any aggressive cues aside from some minor trim pieces.

VW, employing the 911 school of design on their hatchbacks.

Nice to see the US getting the same power as Europe finally. Hopefully that means they updated the clutch since that was supposed to be the weak point for more power on the outgoing model for manuals.

# ? Nov 4, 2020 17:39

PittTheElder: Feb 13, 2012; Yes, it's like a lava lamp.

Yeah as a former Jetta owner and person who's family all has golf's, it looks exactly like every other golf in the last decade.

Also the manual option is US only which seems odd? Do Europeans just not care?

# ? Nov 4, 2020 18:02

bull3964: Nov 18, 2000; DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.

It was like that for MK7.5 as well.

# ? Nov 4, 2020 18:06

OBAMNA PHONE: Aug 7, 2002

yeah not digging the new mk8 headlights. mk7 is pretty perfect in that regard

# ? Nov 4, 2020 18:08

Olympic Mathlete: Feb 25, 2011

Are we at a point now where the only good looking VAG car is the Audi Avant? All the rest of the cars from the owned brands all kinda look alike and aren't interesting.

# ? Nov 4, 2020 18:22

dissss: Nov 10, 2007; I'm a terrible forums poster with terrible opinions.

Here's a cat fucking a squid.

PittTheElder posted:

Also the manual option is US only which seems odd? Do Europeans just not care?

Fuel economy is more important in Europe.

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BuckyDoneGun: Nov 30, 2004; fat drunk

dissss posted:

Fuel economy is more important in Europe.

I would have said the CO2 number first and foremost.

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