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the fake chicken nuggies and paddies are tasty af
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# ? Nov 1, 2020 21:21 |
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baw posted:question for a friend are pubes vegan Cum is technically vegan but not if the person didn't want to cum in some sort of bdsm bondage situation, I was told by a former roommate
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# ? Nov 1, 2020 21:26 |
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baw posted:question for a friend are pubes vegan Is eating your own placenta vegan?
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# ? Nov 1, 2020 22:07 |
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Trabisnikof posted:the fake chicken nuggies and paddies are tasty af
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# ? Nov 1, 2020 22:08 |
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The Beyond Meat products are insane, even non-vegans love em, somehow. It weirds me out a little though. When are we going to get Beyond Human?
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# ? Nov 2, 2020 04:54 |
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actionjackson posted:I add the salt to my lentils that I do in the slow cooker I buy a bunch of red lentils (masoor dal) and "yellow lentils" (mung dal) from a local Indian grocery place and they own. One of my staples is cooking mung bean egg omelettes, which are surprisingly tasty: https://www.veganricha.com/vegan-omelet-with-mung-bean-egg/ There's also a ton of variety in dishes and recipes possible with the lentils, I've probably cooked 25 different recipes over the past half year in lock down. https://www.veganricha.com/25-easy-lentil-recipes/ my favorite recipe isn't in this list, which is her Bengali red lentil soup (Masoor seddho) recipe. I highly prefer them to the green lentils.
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# ? Nov 2, 2020 06:11 |
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endlessmonotony posted:That's almost all vegans though. what the gently caress is this nerd poo poo?
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# ? Nov 3, 2020 00:44 |
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right "boohoo" "i live too deep in the forest of finland" gently caress off other people manage just well there
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# ? Nov 3, 2020 00:44 |
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try not kill an animal maybe
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# ? Nov 3, 2020 00:45 |
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lol you know just as well as I do going without killing animals isn't gonna happen in the forests. What would I wear? More seriously, other people survive just fine but those people can cook. And walk medium distances. And usually drive. ... I'm not deep enough in the forests that I'd lack access to anything if I could drive and cook. Also the only time I ended up killing animals even while I lived deeper was when we got goddamn fur animals loose. And then that rear end in a top hat of a farmer (fur farmers are assholes, whodathunk) got the insurance payments and we were back to where we were.
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# ? Nov 3, 2020 00:56 |
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i know you have a real excuse bud just that text ticked me off the wrong way, whole lot of paragraphs rationalizing taking lives
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# ? Nov 3, 2020 01:11 |
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matti posted:i know you have a real excuse bud Then tell me, what's wrong with eating bugs? I'm not rationalizing taking lives of animals that have the capacity for pain (unless you need to, see also the whole problem with medicine), but that's not even close to what veganism is. When we group together fish, bugs, birds and mammals we get all sorts of nonsense and that nonsense keeps getting in the way of the very real discussion we need to have about environmental impact of our diets. Repeatedly. We've just got over the nuclear question getting in the way of reducing the co2 impact of our energy and here we loving go again. The greens who believe in magic are the biggest obstacle towards real green progress. ... no, wait, that's the dipshits who believe loving peat is green energy. My bad!
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# ? Nov 3, 2020 01:18 |
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loving doubling down on peat in goddamn 2020 I hate both sides in that debate but one of them is right.
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# ? Nov 3, 2020 01:19 |
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all i know is morningstar vegetarian hot dogs are pretty good and while i'm not a vegetarian let alone vegan i switched to them primarily to get away from the horror that is biting into a nice plump hotdog and getting a disgusting chunk of gristle
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# ? Nov 3, 2020 01:20 |
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endlessmonotony posted:Then tell me, what's wrong with eating bugs? the bit where they are alive and then they are not this poo poo shouldn't be complicated, and i'm wholly the first to own up to my bullshit, just so sick and tired of people making excuses when the principle idea is so dang simple
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# ? Nov 3, 2020 01:57 |
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i'm vegan
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# ? Nov 3, 2020 10:20 |
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you shouldn't eat animals
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# ? Nov 3, 2020 10:20 |
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there is no such thing as ethical consumption under capitalism vegans should try to trick americans into supporting the downsizing of the meat industry through public policy, I have no idea how you can do that so good luck
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# ? Nov 3, 2020 10:26 |
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There is no ethical consumption under capitalism, but the consumption of animals would also be unethical under communism. One effective way to force the meat industry to downsize is by having more people go vegan.
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# ? Nov 3, 2020 10:41 |
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endlessmonotony posted:lol you know just as well as I do going without killing animals isn't gonna happen in the forests. What would I wear? Are you sure you're not confusing veganism with Jainism? While Jains are vegan, not all vegans are Jains. The line between conscious actions you take and the unwarranted consequences of you living your life isn't the topic here. Perhaps you have sometimes accidentally swallowed a bug? It happens. Not the issue here. The issue is, that we, human animals, maintain and support a massive global industry that is built solely on abuse and murder of other animals. We do it knowingly, even if it's not being necessary for our survival (and actually being harmful for our planet), In terms of land and water management it's wasteful and destructive. And this is not taking into the ethical considerations. Sure, the existing nations states could limit this excessive consumption, but as capitalism shows again and again, those who profit are the real power holders and no structural changes get done. No, the responsibility falls on individuals to start the change. The moment you start eating bugs knowingly, someone somewhere will turn it into an industry. And that industry in turn will need land and water and more food just to feed one you; it's same as with any animal product. It's wasteful. If your life depends on animal production, its ok. No-one should be denied their survival. However, the rest of us still need to tackle with the system that we created, one meal at a time.
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# ? Nov 3, 2020 15:48 |
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Goatson posted:Are you sure you're not confusing veganism with Jainism? While Jains are vegan, not all vegans are Jains. The line between conscious actions you take and the unwarranted consequences of you living your life isn't the topic here. Perhaps you have sometimes accidentally swallowed a bug? It happens. Not the issue here. The issue is, that we, human animals, maintain and support a massive global industry that is built solely on abuse and murder of other animals. We do it knowingly, even if it's not being necessary for our survival (and actually being harmful for our planet), In terms of land and water management it's wasteful and destructive. And this is not taking into the ethical considerations. Sure, the existing nations states could limit this excessive consumption, but as capitalism shows again and again, those who profit are the real power holders and no structural changes get done. No, the responsibility falls on individuals to start the change. You're very confused over multiple subjects here. Such as what "ethical considerations" means (literally everything you listed is an ethical consideration), the environmental impact of eating (some) insects and filter feeders, how our agricultural cycles work, how well humans absorb nutrition from different sources, the inevitable waste products of producing vegetables and grains, the logistics of feeding this many humans... Veganism is refusing consumption of animal parts or byproducts. To make it a moral choice, you have to argue that killing any animal is wrong, which I don't agree with, because there's plenty of animals out there that aren't capable of suffering. If you define it just by "life", then plants are very much alive. If you define it by having a negative reaction to injury, again, plants do that too. If we go by preserving the planet, then it's rather simply not pure veganism and won't be until we're quite a bit further along in genetic engineering, doubly so if you consider animal labor as a problem as well. I have no moral qualms whatsoever over killing animals too simple to suffer. And won't. Living is killing. If you take it to sustain yourself, something else needed it to live. You've got to draw the line somewhere, and I fundamentally disagree drawing it at just "animals", because that's a category with far too much inside it to be meaningful.
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# ? Nov 3, 2020 16:11 |
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DEEP STATE PLOT posted:all i know is morningstar vegetarian hot dogs are pretty good and while i'm not a vegetarian let alone vegan i switched to them primarily to get away from the horror that is biting into a nice plump hotdog and getting a disgusting chunk of gristle I like the impossible whopper
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# ? Nov 3, 2020 16:14 |
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https://www.gastropub.net/soho/menu-2/ homry for the full vegan breakfast thursday
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# ? Nov 3, 2020 16:23 |
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endlessmonotony posted:there's plenty of animals out there that aren't capable of suffering. Sorry, you're going to have to back up this claim because I wasn't aware that this was something we knew for certain.
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# ? Nov 3, 2020 16:42 |
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endlessmonotony posted:You're very confused over multiple subjects here. Confused? Maybe not making my point clear. Dunno. What amuses me is that you, a person who is not a vegan, are not going to be a vegan, and probably never will be are more than happy to be in this thread and explain to me, a person who has been a vegan for some time, what it is and isn't. I mean, sure. Do your thing.
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# ? Nov 3, 2020 16:43 |
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The moment someone brings some plants show negative response to being harmed into a conversation about veganism is when you know its about to get real stupid
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# ? Nov 3, 2020 17:11 |
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:The moment someone brings some plants show negative response to being harmed into a conversation about veganism is when you know its about to get real stupid When you hit rocks hard enough they fall apart, so perhaps rocks do not like being hit
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# ? Nov 3, 2020 17:16 |
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endlessmonotony posted:To make it a moral choice, you have to argue that killing any animal is wrong, which I don't agree with, because there's plenty of animals out there that aren't capable of suffering. there are neurological structures necessary for an organism to feel "emotional" states, and insects possess them quote:Furthermore, neural circuits supporting behavioral/electrophysiological states of attentiveness, sleep and decision making appear to have arisen in evolution as early as the invertebrate radiation, being evident in insects and cephalopod mollusks (e.g., octopus) if you have a bunch of fruit flies in a cage, and start heating half of the cage, the fruit flies will make a decision to move away from the heat
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# ? Nov 3, 2020 17:23 |
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the bit where they twitch their protrusions (insects, fish, etc) when hurt has somehow missed science since now but im sure its just some automatic nerve response, gore that being
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# ? Nov 3, 2020 17:29 |
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Im vegan, havent missed animal products in a long time, I only pass out three or four times a day because of my b12
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# ? Nov 3, 2020 17:31 |
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tbqh everyone should supplement b12 since we apparently used to get it from dirt in our water and food and that isn't really possible nowadays because the dirt and water is poison
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# ? Nov 3, 2020 17:37 |
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yup, you either supplement B12 or get it from animals you eat who are also being supplemented with B12. Our food chain supply is stupid and hosed
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# ? Nov 3, 2020 17:42 |
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baw posted:anyone know any good vegan blood substitutes, i miss chugging bottles of fresh blood Explore beet powder, its whay I use in my 'black pudding'
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# ? Nov 3, 2020 17:47 |
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Bot 02 posted:you shouldn't eat animals I don't think there's anyway you can 100% avoid eating animals as it's inherent to agriculture.
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# ? Nov 3, 2020 17:49 |
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miniscule12 posted:there is no such thing as ethical consumption under capitalism Ending dairy subsidies and free grazing on public lands would go a long way
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# ? Nov 3, 2020 17:50 |
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Insects are compatible with veganism, which is good since I don't think there's a processed food on the planet that doesn't contain insect parts in some measure
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# ? Nov 3, 2020 17:51 |
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Ive been eating a primarily.plant based diet for like a decade but I agree with the guy saying thay we should also eat bugs and shellfish
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# ? Nov 3, 2020 17:51 |
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Mayor Dave posted:Insects are compatible with veganism, which is good since I don't think there's a processed food on the planet that doesn't contain insect parts in some measure did you miss the last few posts, insects also can feel pain
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# ? Nov 3, 2020 17:52 |
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However i did not at all follow the poo poo about herring and natural environments or whatever, aninal agriculture as currently practice in the overwhelming majoritu of cases is deleterious fir the environment, the workwrs and the communities where the production takes place
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Do it ironically posted:Im vegan, havent missed animal products in a long time, I only pass out three or four times a day because of my b12
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