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America Inc.
Nov 22, 2013

I plan to live forever, of course, but barring that I'd settle for a couple thousand years. Even 500 would be pretty nice.

Was this intentionally put on el Día de Muertos for maximum offense to the hispanic community?

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Old James
Nov 20, 2003

Wait a sec. I don't know an Old James!

Alec Eiffel posted:

It owns that Pomona college is in Claremont

It was founded in the city of Pomona. But during the first year someone in Claremont donated a building to them. Since they were renting space in Pomona, but now owned something in Claremont they quickly moved.

This was in the 1880s.

Chirp!

Alec Eiffel
Sep 7, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

Old James posted:

It was founded in the city of Pomona. But during the first year someone in Claremont donated a building to them. Since they were renting space in Pomona, but now owned something in Claremont they quickly moved.

This was in the 1880s.

Chirp!

And Claremonters were assholes ever since!

Aeka 2.0
Nov 16, 2000

:ohdear: Have you seen my apex seals? I seem to have lost them.




Dinosaur Gum
Seeing all the chuds waving their banners and flags over a lot of 91 freeway overpasses made me want to barf. I don't think Ive ever seen anything like this.

H.P. Hovercraft
Jan 12, 2004

one thing a computer can do that most humans can't is be sealed up in a cardboard box and sit in a warehouse
Slippery Tilde
finally saw a couple houses put out trump signs here in the sac burbs

first it was just a few yards with signs for a former CHP chief running for the county board (rich desmond), who we figured was the placeholder "shy republican" guy to root for

and sure enough, on sunday one of those houses put out a trump sign and then today their neighbor was emboldened as well


the biden signs only showed up here like a week ago, before that it was all "86 45" and "vote" and "anybody but trump" lol

FCKGW
May 21, 2006

Aeka 2.0 posted:

Seeing all the chuds waving their banners and flags over a lot of 91 freeway overpasses made me want to barf. I don't think Ive ever seen anything like this.

Still lots of chuds in the IE but Riverside and San Bernardino counties went to Clinton in 2016 and will go blue again this cycle.

My shithead congressperson is still gonna win though :smith:

FCKGW fucked around with this message at 08:21 on Nov 3, 2020

Glass of Milk
Dec 22, 2004
to forgive is divine
I have enjoyed flipping off the solo chud overpass person in Escondido. gently caress that guy.

Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008

VOTE FOR PROP 15 PLEASE

Henrik Zetterberg
Dec 7, 2007

A lot of the drop off ballot boxes around here in Roseville are full and aren’t getting emptied fast enough. I’m going to have to wander around to find one for mine today. Cool.

The Glumslinger
Sep 24, 2008

Coach Nagy, you want me to throw to WHAT side of the field?


Hair Elf
Vote no on 22 you fuckers

eSporks
Jun 10, 2011

H.P. Hovercraft posted:

finally saw a couple houses put out trump signs here in the sac burbs

first it was just a few yards with signs for a former CHP chief running for the county board (rich desmond), who we figured was the placeholder "shy republican" guy to root for

and sure enough, on sunday one of those houses put out a trump sign and then today their neighbor was emboldened as well


the biden signs only showed up here like a week ago, before that it was all "86 45" and "vote" and "anybody but trump" lol
Come out to Roseville, it's scary.

Henrik Zetterberg
Dec 7, 2007

eSporks posted:

Come out to Roseville, it's scary.

7:45a in Roseville. Sweet!

Nanomachine Son
Jan 11, 2007

!
I'm really hoping Prop 22 doesn't pass but I'm not optimistic given how widespread the advertising is for it. I don't think I've seen a single "No on 22" that hasn't come from people online.

What time should results be expected and what's a good place to track them?

The Glumslinger
Sep 24, 2008

Coach Nagy, you want me to throw to WHAT side of the field?


Hair Elf

Nanomachine Son posted:

I'm really hoping Prop 22 doesn't pass but I'm not optimistic given how widespread the advertising is for it. I don't think I've seen a single "No on 22" that hasn't come from people online.

What time should results be expected and what's a good place to track them?

There has been an uptick of NO on 22 ads during sports the past few weeks. Not as many as yes, but some

Eminent Domain
Sep 23, 2007



The Glumslinger posted:

Vote no on 22 you fuckers

This please, goddamn

CarlCX
Dec 14, 2003

I have so little faith yet so much hope for no on 22.

Sydin
Oct 29, 2011

Another spring commute
The incredibly depressing thing about Prop 22 passing - even above and beyond the fact that it enshrines in our state constitution that we consider gig workers to be a second class of citizens not deserving of basic employment rights - is that it will send the very clear message that any company that doesn't like a law passed by our legislature can just dump a couple hundred million into a voter disinformation campaign that ultimately gets that law overturned at the ballot box.

Jaxyon
Mar 7, 2016
I’m just saying I would like to see a man beat a woman in a cage. Just to be sure.
Yeah I feel that CA passes at least one extremely awful prop every 4 years and this time it's 22's time to shine.

WAR CRIME GIGOLO
Oct 3, 2012

The Hague
tryna get me
for these glutes

Lol if you think 22 isn't going to pass. Let me refer you to prop 8.

H.P. Hovercraft
Jan 12, 2004

one thing a computer can do that most humans can't is be sealed up in a cardboard box and sit in a warehouse
Slippery Tilde
i'm still lolling at the "oh btw amending this prop will require 7/8ths of the leg" part of 22

VikingofRock
Aug 24, 2008




I'm not as negative on the proposition system as a lot of people in this thread (I'd like to reform it, not eliminate it), but lol that we allow propositions to enact state constitutional amendments without needing like 2/3rds of the vote.

Xaris
Jul 25, 2006

Lucky there's a family guy
Lucky there's a man who positively can do
All the things that make us
Laugh and cry

WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:

Lol if you think 22 isn't going to pass. Let me refer you to prop 8.

yeah there's absolutely no way it isn't passing and best you can hope for is a 55/45 split, could and will likely be even a way worse result than that but it's irrelevant because it's definitely getting some level of a majority vote. there is a whole loving lot of money put into it for like 9 months now with YES ON 22 all over bay area, text spam, ~im a hard working latino poor lgbtq uber driver and i love having the ability to set my own schedule plz dont take that away from me. yes on 22 means wokeness and support of the bipoc working class~ commercials and radio ads and so on.

also people love having cheap $5 to get a mish' burrito delivered to their tech office or having $5 rides to get driven to some fancy rum n gin pirate bar to gobble up $19 rum shots.

probably the only way its getting fixed is another ballot prop put out, with key wording like "safe employment and fund schools prop!" where it gets rid of independent contracting again but lol there isn't much money in doing that. i suppose legislature could put one on the ballot though.

Xaris fucked around with this message at 21:14 on Nov 3, 2020

WAR CRIME GIGOLO
Oct 3, 2012

The Hague
tryna get me
for these glutes

Just btw Uber is forcing drivers to put "YES ON 22" informational in the BACK KF THE CAR SO THE RIDER sees it the entire time

gently caress Uber gently caress 22. I use doordash weekly for employees and Uber aswell and guess what I loving hate 22 because it is literally anti worker

Sydin
Oct 29, 2011

Another spring commute
This is about a month old but Doordash was also making drivers put food they picked up in "Yes on 22" bags for delivery. I believe Uber and Lyft also both pestered drivers with "Do you support Prop 22???" pop ups that only had a "Yes" option, and if you didn't pick Yes and instead dismissed it by tapping elsewhere on the screen it constantly popped back up over and over until you agreed just to get the dang popup to go away, after which any rider you picked up would get a push notification that their driver supports Prop 22!

These companies are evil and beyond exploitative of our terrible labor conditions yet don't even make loving money; they just hoover up endless VC funds on the promise that one day it'll all be autonomous vehicles that squeeze out the marginalized and exploited labor these companies are claiming Prop 22 will help. It is beyond even a caricature of the problems with Capitalism.

fermun
Nov 4, 2009

Sydin posted:

This is about a month old but Doordash was also making drivers put food they picked up in "Yes on 22" bags for delivery. I believe Uber and Lyft also both pestered drivers with "Do you support Prop 22???" pop ups that only had a "Yes" option, and if you didn't pick Yes and instead dismissed it by tapping elsewhere on the screen it constantly popped back up over and over until you agreed just to get the dang popup to go away, after which any rider you picked up would get a push notification that their driver supports Prop 22!

These companies are evil and beyond exploitative of our terrible labor conditions yet don't even make loving money; they just hoover up endless VC funds on the promise that one day it'll all be autonomous vehicles that squeeze out the marginalized and exploited labor these companies are claiming Prop 22 will help. It is beyond even a caricature of the problems with Capitalism.

People that eventually then clicked Yes were then used in advertisements as supporting Yes on 22.

MAKE NO BABBYS
Jan 28, 2010
lololololololol


https://twitter.com/SocialistMMA/status/1323756570937860096?s=20

Sydin
Oct 29, 2011

Another spring commute
M4A is incredibly popular no matter how much libs and conservatives want to wring their hands about now actually it's misleading wording in polls. So naturally the choice before us tonight is between a guy with zero interest in expanding government funded healthcare, and a guy with zero interest in expanding government funded healthcare.

BeAuMaN
Feb 18, 2014

I'M A LEAD FARMER, MOTHERFUCKER!

Sydin posted:

The incredibly depressing thing about Prop 22 passing - even above and beyond the fact that it enshrines in our state constitution that we consider gig workers to be a second class of citizens not deserving of basic employment rights - is that it will send the very clear message that any company that doesn't like a law passed by our legislature can just dump a couple hundred million into a voter disinformation campaign that ultimately gets that law overturned at the ballot box.
It passes something into law, but it doesn't amend the constitution. However, if passed it would be protected by Article II Section 10(c) of the CA Constitution.

quote:

(c) The Legislature may amend or repeal a referendum statute. The Legislature may amend or repeal an initiative statute by another statute that becomes effective only when approved by the electors unless the initiative statute permits amendment or repeal without the electors’ approval.
Which leads into...

H.P. Hovercraft posted:

i'm still lolling at the "oh btw amending this prop will require 7/8ths of the leg" part of 22
YES. Holy poo poo yes. When I was explaining the bill to my family (and why I hate Initiative Statutes in general) I was telling them "Where the gently caress do they get 7/8ths? Who the hell writes that? Why not 15/16ths at that point?" and in both houses. And ON TOP OF THAT, that's just to amend the statute in a manner that's consistent with and furthers the purpose of Prop 22. If the statute opposes it? Welp, better put up a new proposition!

(For anyone who hasn't read it, text here, scroll down to "Article 9. Amendment" on PDF page 8)

Ballot Propositions were a mistake, and initiative statutes are an abomination.

Sydin
Oct 29, 2011

Another spring commute
https://calmatters.org/politics/california-election-2020/2020/11/california-election-results-2020/



Nothing set in stone yet obviously but if these results held it would be a decidedly mixed bag of results.

CopperHound
Feb 14, 2012

I though prop 18 would be the least controversial of the bunch. Once again this stupid state continues to surprise me.

E: I don't particularly care strongly for it, I just would have guessed it would be a solid "Sure, I guess I don't see anything wrong with that."

CopperHound fucked around with this message at 05:47 on Nov 4, 2020

Wicked Them Beats
Apr 1, 2007

Moralists don't really *have* beliefs. Sometimes they stumble on one, like on a child's toy left on the carpet. The toy must be put away immediately. And the child reprimanded.

Rent control going down in flames is a bummer, but not surprising given the amount of flyers I got saying that they were going to make my rent go up. Always from some group named something like Apartment Association of America or whatever the gently caress.

Sacramento also rejected a local rent control measure; got plenty of mailers warning me about how it was going to create MORE BUREAUCRACY without ANY OVERSIGHT. Strong mayor didn't pass at least, get hosed Steinberg.

Glass of Milk
Dec 22, 2004
to forgive is divine

CopperHound posted:

I though prop 18 would be the least controversial of the bunch. Once again this stupid state continues to surprise me.

E: I don't particularly care strongly for it, I just would have guessed it would be a solid "Sure, I guess I don't see anything wrong with that."


Olds don't want youngs changing things

WAR CRIME GIGOLO
Oct 3, 2012

The Hague
tryna get me
for these glutes

loving california

Small White Dragon
Nov 23, 2007

No relation.
Difficult to understand props for the average person, requiring just 50%+1 approval, and overriding the legislature/governor?

I always feel like I'm very much in the minority here, but I do not like the prop system.

Class Warcraft
Apr 27, 2006


Anyone got that tweet about California props handy that went something similar to "California props be like 'Do you or do you not don't want to not have a thing happen, yes or no?'"

Cup Runneth Over
Aug 8, 2009

She said life's
Too short to worry
Life's too long to wait
It's too short
Not to love everybody
Life's too long to hate


Small White Dragon posted:

Difficult to understand props for the average person, requiring just 50%+1 approval, and overriding the legislature/governor?

I always feel like I'm very much in the minority here, but I do not like the prop system.

It sucks rear end

withak
Jan 15, 2003


Fun Shoe

Small White Dragon posted:

Difficult to understand props for the average person, requiring just 50%+1 approval, and overriding the legislature/governor?

I always feel like I'm very much in the minority here, but I do not like the prop system.

But imagine if you had a shitload of money and wanted some weird law passed.

Roland Jones
Aug 18, 2011

by Nyc_Tattoo

Class Warcraft posted:

Anyone got that tweet about California props handy that went something similar to "California props be like 'Do you or do you not don't want to not have a thing happen, yes or no?'"

Here you go:

https://twitter.com/MarkAgee/status/1316583418751148033

Xaris
Jul 25, 2006

Lucky there's a family guy
Lucky there's a man who positively can do
All the things that make us
Laugh and cry
big win for real estate agents, gig economy industry disruptors, bail bond industry, and dialysis industry tonight :toot:

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threeagainstfour
Jun 27, 2005


Can the 7/8th majority in the legislature bit of Prop 22 be challenged in court? That bit seems pretty insane, but I'm not knowledgeable at all on the legal standing of it.

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