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beejay posted:Maybe slightly but the fact that things are the way they are now indicates they learned nothing from 2016 and will similarly disregard this election. It's not that they learned nothing; it's that they're actively opposed on an ideological level to "moving left." It's basically the same as expecting the Republican Party to "move left" in response to losing; they're opposed on a basic ideological level, so they aren't going to do that even if there was some thorough proof that it was great for electability.
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Geshtal posted:Exactly this. Arizona could still throw a wrench in Trump's chances if it flips as hoped, but otherwise it is almost certainly all on Pennsylvania. It's a near certainly that the Dems have the votes in Pennsylvania, but Republicans will fight like hell in court to keep them from being counted.
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i hate about half the people in this poo poo tier country and should have bought a gun with my covid bucks instead of a switch. gently caress biden so being so uselessYtlaya posted:It's not that they learned nothing; it's that they're actively opposed on an ideological level to "moving left." It's basically the same as expecting the Republican Party to "move left" in response to losing; they're opposed on a basic ideological level, so they aren't going to do that even if there was some thorough proof that it was great for electability. No poo poo. They're always so quick to compromise rightward, but constantly poo poo on their own left wing. Biden told me three separate times not to vote for him in this election
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Kirios posted:Should I watch MSNBC or CNN's coverage? watch Fox on mute and Chapo's twitch stream on audio
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Starsfan posted:I think the Fox News needles are broken.. they may be based on some goofy % reporting numbers on a county by county level.. not sure.. they don't seem to be correlating with the trends in the polls. Fox is using stuff like Senators and the house to make their predictions. edit: and as they said just now, people they interviewed that were probably more Republican and if it matches.
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Are we looking at possible recounts in NC, Ohio, AND Texas?!
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FizFashizzle posted:The DNC's job is to stop the Democrats from moving left. The democrats need to be as left as bernie
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FlamingLiberal posted:https://twitter.com/EricLevitz/status/1323814649888935936?s=20  OH just turned pale red in the AP projection, but with 30% of the votes to count and .7% lead Dem, I think it's as good as gone. EDIT: down to .1% lead while I was typing this. EDIT2: Trump ahead .3% while I was typing the first edit. NC within .5% difference with the count at 86% votes for AP, but a trend towards red.
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KittyEmpress posted:Seriously.
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berserker posted:Are we looking at possible recounts in NC, Ohio, AND Texas?! NC and Ohio possibly, Texas no.
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So NC on DDHQ is saying 99% reporting and Biden up by about 25k votes. Is that a done deal now or what?
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Ramrod Hotshot posted:watch Fox on mute and Chapo's twitch stream on audio Got a link to Chapo's stream?
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fool of sound posted:The takeaway is that even if Biden wins, which is still probably odds on? it's catastrophic for the democratic coalition as minorities depoliticize Is there any substance to this other than one tweet for 3 hours ago about in-person exit polls?
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This country is hosed, he’s going to embrace herd immunity and we’re going to have 400k people dead.
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PotatoManJack posted:So NC on DDHQ is saying 99% reporting and Biden up by about 25k votes. Is that a done deal now or what? probably, I haven't seen it move in a while. Not sure if NC is a state that lets late ballots in.
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Ytlaya posted:It's not that they learned nothing; it's that they're actively opposed on an ideological level to "moving left." It's basically the same as expecting the Republican Party to "move left" in response to losing; they're opposed on a basic ideological level, so they aren't going to do that even if there was some thorough proof that it was great for electability.
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regardless of whatever else i'm sick to loving death of the term pennsyltucky
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fool of sound posted:The takeaway is that even if Biden wins, which is still probably odds on? it's catastrophic for the democratic coalition as minorities depoliticize pretty much, I think Biden still has the odds but this is maybe one of the worst 'wins' a party could have as its tried and true coalition collapses
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Glumwheels posted:This country is hosed, he’s going to embrace herd immunity and we’re going to have 400k people dead. Since herd immunity likely doesn't work with COVID, multiply your number by 5
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Biden is gonna lose for incredibly obvious reasons in hindsight and honestly during the present
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Glumwheels posted:This country is hosed, he’s going to embrace herd immunity and we’re going to have 400k people dead. If trump wins we'll push close to a million before widespread distro of a vaccine, dude. Maybe more.
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no seriously how the gently caress is Jorgensen getting ~1% in all these states? even the ones with a lot of votes in
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"On one side we have Bill Johnson, career politician and family man, widely respected throughout government; and on the other we have an Unutterable Horror From Beyond the Dimensional Vortex, who has vowed to eat all your children within his first week in office" *final vote: 89,115,027 to 89,115,012*
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berserker posted:Are we looking at possible recounts in NC, Ohio, AND Texas?! Ohio absentee ballots can be postmarked up through the day before election day (must arrive by the 13th), so there is a possibility some votes won't be counted until days from now. My ballot took three days to reach the local board of elections when I mailed it in the first half of October.
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mediaphage posted:regardless of whatever else i'm sick to loving death of the term pennsyltucky I prefer Pennsatucky, following the popular OITNB character.
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Glumwheels posted:This country is hosed, he’s going to embrace herd immunity and we’re going to have 400k people dead. Actually the number needed for herd immunity in the US is 3.1 million dead. Good loving luck, people. I hope the US-Canada border never reopens in my remaining lifetime.
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Youth Decay posted:no seriously how the gently caress is Jorgensen getting ~1% in all these states? even the ones with a lot of votes in People hate both Biden and trump.
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So, how about that election, eh? Was it worth the sacrifice? The turn of face? The unabashed honesty in the face of things? Looks like it worked out, huh.
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fool of sound posted:The takeaway is that even if Biden wins, which is still probably odds on? it's catastrophic for the democratic coalition as minorities depoliticize I'm hoping the various leftist ground level organizing efforts pick up most of those people because ho boy if they don't we are big hosed. Soonmot posted:i hate about half the people in this poo poo tier country and should have bought a gun with my covid bucks instead of a switch. gently caress biden so being so useless Buying a rifle was with the stimulus was definitely the right call but even if you had it's drat near impossible to get ammo on the cheap now. Most gun stores can't keep .556 or .22 in stock and I doubt that will change until after the new year.
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mind the walrus posted:Dems really would prefer to lose to Trump than win by going left. They have empirically proven this twice in a row. Again we will need to see breakdowns to even find out. If Trump's threats of socialism/high taxes/etc are what made the difference then it is entirely possible running left isn't possible in current America. We really have to see what shapes up after.
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I can't believe over 30 million people (as of now) voted for Donald loving Trump. I just can't wrap my head around that.
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PotatoManJack posted:So NC on DDHQ is saying 99% reporting and Biden up by about 25k votes. Is that a done deal now or what? mediaphage posted:regardless of whatever else i'm sick to loving death of the term pennsyltucky
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I would like a 24 hour probation please (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Shageletic posted:Biden is gonna lose for incredibly obvious reasons in hindsight and honestly during the present I admit to thinking that Covid was gonna save him but if it weren't for that he was 100% to lose, but I guess it didn't even help him that much lol
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fool of sound posted:The takeaway is that even if Biden wins, which is still probably odds on? it's catastrophic for the democratic coalition as minorities depoliticize I don’t think it’s going to be depoliticization as much as it is a realignment, probably along cultural lines like Matt Christman said.
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