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Borrovan
Aug 15, 2013

IT IS ME.
🧑‍💼
I AM THERESA MAY


Niric posted:

It's not celebrating the turnout figures to say that voter apathy isn't a useful explanation because voters are less apathetic than previously.
It's anti-black racism, OP

It's very unusual for an incumbent to increase their turnout at all, especially with no positive message like he had last time. The spooky scary socialism stuff is obvious horseshit, with the most right-wing dem candidate since I-don't-loving-know. The more sensible explanation is that people want the scary BLM protestors - who are broadly associated with both socialism & the dems - to go away. This could also explain why some latin american voters switched to Trump, when you'd more usually expect a demographic to just stay home when both sides promise to shaft them.

That's my theory

E: googling 358 instead brings up 538, a pollster that predicted a clean Biden sweep including the Senate & the House

Borrovan fucked around with this message at 13:46 on Nov 4, 2020

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Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
bidens entire campaign was getting republicans to vote for him instead of trump and they went from 90% to trump in 2016 to 93% lol

Grey Hunter
Oct 17, 2007

Hero of the soviet union.
Accidental destroyer of planets

zhar posted:

if trump won but the house remains dem would the trade deal get blocked anyway?

Yeah, but Boris is no way smart enough to realize that. With Biden in, he's straight up said its the GFA or no US deal. which gets through Boris's thick Etonian educated skull.

The Question IRL
Jun 8, 2013

Only two contestants left! Here is Doom's chance for revenge...


Just a reminder that Amanda Knox tried to frame an innocent man for the murder of Meridith Kercher. And that Patrick Lumbumba would have likely gone down for that murder, had he not been lucky enough to have a university professor provide him with a rock solid alibi on the night in question.

sinky
Feb 22, 2011



Slippery Tilde

The Question IRL posted:

Just a reminder that Amanda Knox tried to frame an innocent man for the murder of Meridith Kercher. And that Patrick Lumbumba would have likely gone down for that murder, had he not been lucky enough to have a university professor provide him with a rock solid alibi on the night in question.


Wow, what a bitch of her to mislead those good and honest cops.

quote:

Describing the police interviews of Knox as of "obsessive duration", the judges said that the statements she made incriminating herself and Lumumba during interrogation were evidence of her confusion while under "great psychological pressure"

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
The investigation was led by a weirdo ex-Clergyman who believed that women were susceptible to witchcraft, so she might never have been in the position to have to try to frame anyone if it wasn't for that tosser.

Skeletome
Feb 4, 2011

Tell them about the tournament!

The Question IRL posted:

Just a reminder that Amanda Knox tried to frame an innocent man for the murder of Meridith Kercher. And that Patrick Lumbumba would have likely gone down for that murder, had he not been lucky enough to have a university professor provide him with a rock solid alibi on the night in question.

yeah sucks when innocent people go to prison for a crime they didnt commit

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting
All the vote counting people need to turn their monitors.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
Oh apparently he wasn't ex-clergy it was just something he considered and was interested in, but still a massive misogynist weirdo with prior convictions for abuse of power.

quote:

Prosecutors interviewed Knox for hours without a lawyer, allegedly hit her, and derived contradictory claims from both her and Sollecito about their whereabouts, accounts that both later claimed were false and extracted under duress. From there, the police spent months attempting to build their case against Knox and Sollecito, buoyed by the moral outrage of the Italian public and a wealth of circumstantial, largely shoddy evidence.

Amanda Knox [the documentary] spends most of its time transitioning through major case developments, frequently checking in with the chief prosecutor in the case, Giuliano Mignini. His version of events, and the process by which he comes to believe in Knox’s guilt, comes across in this narrative as chiefly self-serving, dreadfully sexist, and often wildly delusional. Mignini’s statements are so fanciful that it’s easy to wonder if nuance has gotten lost in translation; however, perhaps as its nod to objectivity, the documentary politely omits that Mignini has not only a history of abuse of power but also an obsession with the occult and a history of fantasizing imaginary crimes based on faulty assumptions.

love too inquisition

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

Guavanaut posted:

The investigation was led by a weirdo ex-Clergyman who believed that women were susceptible to witchcraft, so she might never have been in the position to have to try to frame anyone if it wasn't for that tosser.

he also charged a ton of people for being involved with the monster of florence case that got acquitted

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giuliano_Mignini

mediaphage
Mar 22, 2007

Excuse me, pardon me, sheer perfection coming through

Jose posted:

bidens entire campaign was getting republicans to vote for him instead of trump and they went from 90% to trump in 2016 to 93% lol

This is exactly it. He had almost nothing to offer poc and went right at the racist white vote instead, and this is what happens. I mean we’ve seen in this thread now he’s told union men to gently caress off and told minorities to go vote for trump.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
https://twitter.com/LukeFrancis88/status/1323951273608097792?s=20

Drone_Fragger
May 9, 2007


The Question IRL posted:

Just a reminder that Amanda Knox tried to frame an innocent man for the murder of Meridith Kercher. And that Patrick Lumbumba would have likely gone down for that murder, had he not been lucky enough to have a university professor provide him with a rock solid alibi on the night in question.

Not entirely sure that you interpreting “police psychologically torture foreigner into false confession” as a slam dunk take of “Amanda Knox tried to frame a guy” is a good take to have.

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting

With the something awful logo on it.

sinky
Feb 22, 2011



Slippery Tilde
Actually it's a self propelled gun :goonsay:

Tangerines
Apr 25, 2016

Who paints a tank a lovely brown colour anyway

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

Isn't that a self-propelled gun rather than a tank?

kecske
Feb 28, 2011

it's round, like always

*runs in wheezing with gross sweat patches all over my body*

self... propelled... gun!

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
Actually, that's a rocket propelled grenade.

Small Strange Bird
Sep 22, 2006

Merci, chaton!

Jose posted:

he also charged a ton of people for being involved with the monster of florence case that got acquitted

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giuliano_Mignini
Should have paid more attention to that creepy Dr Fell.

Lady Gaza
Nov 20, 2008

Jose posted:

bidens entire campaign was getting republicans to vote for him instead of trump and they went from 90% to trump in 2016 to 93% lol

lol this is Labour’s strategy, I don’t see them converting Conservatives either

Drone_Fragger
May 9, 2007


Hey I have another insanely bad take if this is bad take hour: Bloody Sunday was absolutely justified because the army said they were all armed with guns and bombs. Why would we have any reason to doubt the armies reports? They would never lie.

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

Beefeater1980 posted:

All communities bigger than the immediate family are imaginary; they exist because we believe they do and they collapse if we stop believing in them. So theoretically all it would take is to change those communities is a good story. Brexit showed this and so does the HK thing: both played into the view that Tory voters have of themselves, which as far as I can tell is sensible, practical-minded people who are a bit stubborn but fundamentally decent. As opposed to our view of them which is inhuman ghouls who lust for our death. And Tory voters are a majority in England & Wales.

I think a genuine challenge for modern leftism is a failure to connect at the human level, and it’s encouraging that there are people like Corbyn or AOC who can do it right. Otherwise it’s all about big trends here and historical forces there and “the individual doesn’t matter” and that is a FAR weaker message than “you can make a difference”.

Technically your family is a made up construct as well, if you want to be pedantic about it. Nuclear family, blood family, adoptive family, etc. can all be massive shitheads and being adopted by/related by blood to someone doesn't carry any sort of commitments or understanding of them, necessarily.

Brendan Rodgers
Jun 11, 2014




kecske posted:

*runs in wheezing with gross sweat patches all over my body*

self... propelled... gun!

Hey it's a quite the difference, this is a tank:

the sex ghost
Sep 6, 2009

Guavanaut posted:

Actually, that's a rocket propelled grenade.

cool Big Car

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Miftan posted:

Technically your family is a made up construct as well, if you want to be pedantic about it. Nuclear family, blood family, adoptive family, etc. can all be massive shitheads and being adopted by/related by blood to someone doesn't carry any sort of commitments or understanding of them, necessarily.
Xenofam!

Tangerines posted:

Who paints a tank a lovely brown colour anyway

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe
https://twitter.com/nprpolitics/status/1323963977651703809

The country that invented the war on drugs and literally sent in death squads all around the world to eliminate the CIA's competition wipe out narcoculture fields is now considerably more liberal, on average, than the UK on weed.

A more suspicious person than I would think that letting people get good quality, cheap weed (and removing, or at least vastly reducing, the chances of the cops shooting you for it) is going to do more to reduce the chance of violent insurrection across America than any other measure that isn't, you know, not loving poor people from every direction.

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

goddamnedtwisto posted:

https://twitter.com/nprpolitics/status/1323963977651703809

The country that invented the war on drugs and literally sent in death squads all around the world to eliminate the CIA's competition wipe out narcoculture fields is now considerably more liberal, on average, than the UK on weed.

A more suspicious person than I would think that letting people get good quality, cheap weed (and removing, or at least vastly reducing, the chances of the cops shooting you for it) is going to do more to reduce the chance of violent insurrection across America than any other measure that isn't, you know, not loving poor people from every direction.

If the UK ever legalises weed we'd somehow give Secro and G4S exclusive distribution/growing rights.

Dabir
Nov 10, 2012

what did I say about optimism

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


goddamnedtwisto posted:

Isn't that a self-propelled gun rather than a tank?

You're a self-propelled gun m8

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

Brendan Rodgers posted:

Hey it's a quite the difference, this is a tank:



I mean an MBT would never make it to Parliament Square anyway - it'd just fall straight into the first tube line/sewer/buried river it came to. In fact thinking about it Parliament Square would be completely impossible - Westminster Bridge, the sewers under the Embankment, the comms conduits under Whitehall (and the tunnels that almost certainly go under Birdcage Walk and Victoria Street) make it an almost perfect tank trap.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

forkboy84 posted:

You're a self-propelled gun m8

Do I measure the 155mm underneath or from the top?

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

goddamnedtwisto posted:

https://twitter.com/nprpolitics/status/1323963977651703809

The country that invented the war on drugs and literally sent in death squads all around the world to eliminate the CIA's competition wipe out narcoculture fields is now considerably more liberal, on average, than the UK on weed.

A more suspicious person than I would think that letting people get good quality, cheap weed (and removing, or at least vastly reducing, the chances of the cops shooting you for it) is going to do more to reduce the chance of violent insurrection across America than any other measure that isn't, you know, not loving poor people from every direction.

Only two states with full prohibition now. Blue is legal, green some level of legal access. Oregon looks to be legalizing psilocybin and decriminalizing all drug possession with addiction recovery centers.

Turns out cannabis was a gateway drug, but for states. :getin:

Flayer
Sep 13, 2003

by Fluffdaddy
Buglord

goddamnedtwisto posted:

Do I measure the 155mm underneath or from the top?
No way that gun is 155mm, I'd say it was a 105.

Bobstar
Feb 8, 2006

KartooshFace, you are not responding efficiently!

Guavanaut posted:

Turns out cannabis was a gateway drug, but for states. :getin:

Stateway drug

Necrothatcher
Mar 26, 2005




goddamnedtwisto posted:

I mean an MBT would never make it to Parliament Square anyway - it'd just fall straight into the first tube line/sewer/buried river it came to. In fact thinking about it Parliament Square would be completely impossible - Westminster Bridge, the sewers under the Embankment, the comms conduits under Whitehall (and the tunnels that almost certainly go under Birdcage Walk and Victoria Street) make it an almost perfect tank trap.

Isn't the weight of a tank spread out over the large surface area of its treads, so it'd be fine on city streets?

ShaneMacGowansTeeth
May 22, 2007



I think this is it... I think this is how it ends
There's definitely an argument about giving the Upper Peninsular to Wisconsin, but not if they can scoot over the border for fully legal weed

Drone_Fragger
May 9, 2007


Necrothatcher posted:

Isn't the weight of a tank spread out over the large surface area of its treads, so it'd be fine on city streets?

If it were a car, yes. Tank treads on concrete means any turning at that weight shreds the tarmac instantly.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Necrothatcher posted:

Isn't the weight of a tank spread out over the large surface area of its treads
Yes, but that doesn't matter when a tread is mostly or wholly over a suspended surface. It's gross vehicle weight that counts then.

Imagine an ice skater and a tank on mud. The skater has far higher contact surface pressure and so gets stuck, the tank just goes brr.

Now imagine them crossing a frozen lake with 4" of ice. Only one of the two is getting across, the tank's getting fished out in summer.

Timeservice conduits work the same way.

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Niric
Jul 23, 2008

sinky posted:

Actually it's a self propelled gun :goonsay:

goddamnedtwisto posted:

Isn't that a self-propelled gun rather than a tank?

Brendan Rodgers posted:

Hey it's a quite the difference, this is a tank:

So...what is the difference between the two? Or is it too painfully boring to bother to know?

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