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The Delmarva Commonality votes as follows: IN REGARDS TO SHIP PREFIXES: GCDEBFA IN REGARDS TO RESEARCH PRIORITIES: DCAB IN REGARDS TO THE SAP: ABC (STENOGRAPHER'S NOTE: This issue caused much consternation amongst the Commonality's delegates to the Comintern; most believed that a one year wind down was too fast, and so voted accordingly; as explained earlier, a ten-year wind-down of the SAP would be much more preferable) IN REGARDS TO THE FOLLOWING RESOLUTIONS: --I-24: NAY --A-25: YEA --K-26: YEA --F-27: NAY --F-28: YEA --F-29: NAY --L-30: YEA --I-31: NAY --H-32: --N-33 and N-34: YEA TO BOTH --S-35: NAY --A-36: NAY --A-37: YEA
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Prefixes: E, D, B, G, F, C, A Research Priorities: C, A, D, B SAP: A, B, C I-24: Yes A-25: Yes K-26: Yes F-27: Yes F-28: Yes F-29: No L-30: Yes I-31: Yes H-32: Yes N-33: Yes N-34: Yes S-35: No A-36: No A-37: No
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Prefixes: E, D, F, C, G, B, A Research: C, D, A, B Socialist Aid Program: A, B, C I-24, Repeal the No First Strike Doctrine: Yes A-25, Service Medals: Yes K-26, Adoption of a Revolutionary Rank Structure: No F-27, Drunken Industrial Bear: Yes F-28, Research Optimization Cleanup: Yes F-29, A Ten-Year Service Medal: Yes L-30, Low-Gravity Infrastructure: No I-31, Five-Year Plans: Yes H-32, The Mars Program: - N-33, the TNE Reuse, Reduce, and Recycling Act: No N-34, the Public Broadcasting Service: Yes S-35, FESTER: Yes A-36, Space Autonomy Model: No A-37, A Common Language for Space: Yes
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Prefixes: F, E, D, G, A, B, C Research: C, A, B, D Socialist Aid Program: A, B, C I-24, Repeal the No First Strike Doctrine: Yes A-25, Service Medals: Yes K-26, Adoption of a Revolutionary Rank Structure: Yes F-27, Drunken Industrial Bear: Yes F-28, Research Optimization Cleanup: Yes F-29, A Ten-Year Service Medal: Yes L-30, Low-Gravity Infrastructure: No I-31, Five-Year Plans: No H-32, The Mars Program: No N-33, the TNE Reuse, Reduce, and Recycling Act: Yes N-34, the Public Broadcasting Service: Yes S-35, FESTER: ] Yes A-36, Space Autonomy Model: Yes A-37, A Common Language for Space: No
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Nov 4, 2020 01:49
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Foxfire_ posted:One problem is that we suck at researching sensors, and a railgun ship needs beam fire control research. Yeah improving tech would be nice, but of what we can do the soonest, it's the best option I think. Maybe we should build a second academy next year, and still have it all led by a scientist to have better odds of generating new ones.
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Nov 4, 2020 13:48
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All of our academies should be led by scientists. We don't need any bonapartes in the communist international. Edit: making this a formal proposal for the next session: All academies are to be led by scientists. Review of this policy to be after 10 years. Speleothing fucked around with this message at 15:52 on Nov 4, 2020 |
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Nov 4, 2020 15:50
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We should probably propose additional academies now that I think of it. Make good use of this peace to focus on research.
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Nov 4, 2020 16:50
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True, more specialists means more research means more quality of life improvements for humanity.
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Nov 4, 2020 18:01
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The Democratic Republic of Minnesota votes as follows: Ship Prefixes: EDGFCAB Research: CDBA Socialist Aid Program: ABC I-24: Nay A-25: Yea K-26: Nay F-27: Yea F-28: Yea F-29: Yea L-30: Nay I-31: Nay H-32: Yea N-33: Yea N-34: Yea S-35: Nay A-36: Yea A-37: Yea
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Nov 4, 2020 18:21
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What's the cost to increase the raw number of labs we have?
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Nov 4, 2020 18:24
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I ride bikes all day posted:What's the cost to increase the raw number of labs we have? 1200 Duranium (used for almost everything but generally plentiful) and 1200 Mercassium (mostly just used for labs but is rarer) per lab. They also take a long time to build and are fuckhuge so they're hard to transport. 1M pop per lab and some amount of wealth to operate them. Wiki doesn't list the wealth cost but I lost a few games early on by not realizing how expensive my R&D was. Zurai fucked around with this message at 18:44 on Nov 4, 2020 |
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Nov 4, 2020 18:42
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Quoting an older post:Mister Bates posted:Also, assuming you dedicated 100% of your current industrial capacity to expanding labs, you could build one lab every six months or so, and each lab would use about 10% of your current Duranium stocks and about 20% of your current Mercassium stocks. Labs are expensive. As you convert more of your conventional industry to TN standards that speed will get faster, though, and the increased research speed tech you're nearly done with will also substantially increase your per-lab output. That was a year or two ago. I guess by now we're down to four months? We already have 40 labs which is really more than generous for a conventional start. They could carry us real far as it is, without building extra. I think one military academy/one more level to Interkosmos on Earth would be a better investment of time and resources than just one extra lab, they have the same wealth and duranium cost, and academies take a bunch of other minerals rather than mercassium. The thing about more scientists is that when a scientist is researching something from their field, their research bonus is multiplied by 4. So if you give 20 labs to someone who has 25% and is working on their specialty, that's effectively like handing them 40 labs.
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Nov 4, 2020 18:44
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The NOMAD Collective votes as follows: Ship Prefixes: GB Research: BDCA Socialist Aid Program: ABC I-24: No A-25: Yes K-26: No F-27: Yes F-28: Yes F-29: Yes L-30: Yes I-31: No H-32: Yes N-33: Yes N-34: Yes S-35: No A-36: Yes A-37: Yes
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Prefixes: AGFBEDC Research: DABC Socialist Aid Program: BAC I-24 No A-25 yes K-26 Yes F-27 Yes F-28 Yes F-29 Yes L-30 Yes I-31 No H-32 Yes N-33 Yes N-34 Yes S-35, FESTER:Yes A-36 Yes A-37 Yes
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Nov 5, 2020 01:38
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Prefixes:CEFDGBA Research: DCBA Socialist Aid Program: ABC I-24, Repeal the No First Strike Doctrine: No A-25, Service Medals: Vote Yes K-26, Adoption of a Revolutionary Rank Structure: Yes, but in a derussianized form. F-27, Drunken Industrial Bear:Yes F-28, Research Optimization Cleanup:Yes F-29, A Ten-Year Service Medal: Yes L-30, Low-Gravity Infrastructure: Yes I-31, Five-Year Plans: No H-32, The Mars Program: Yes N-33, the TNE Reuse, Reduce, and Recycling Act: Yes N-34, the Public Broadcasting Service: Yes S-35, FESTER: Yes A-36, Space Autonomy Model: Yes A-37, A Common Language for Space: Yes
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(if I may editorialize, let me say how cathartic it's been participating in essentially a LARP of what a functional optimistic Leftist democracy is like?)
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Asterite34 posted:(if I may editorialize, let me say how cathartic it's been participating in essentially a LARP of what a functional optimistic Leftist democracy is like?) When I started this game I knew I wanted it to be set in an alternate past and do a sort of period piece, and I was torn between doing late Victorian era sci-fi or optimistic Soviet 70s sci-fi, and am very glad I picked the latter. Also: Voting is closed! - Ship names of the Comintern will be prefixed with 'CSV', Comintern Space Vessel. - The Mining Plan wins overwhelmingly and we will once more focus our efforts on incremental Construction/Production techs with long research times. - The Socialist Aid Program will continue near-unanimously. I-24 fails and the No First Strike Doctrine remains in effect. A-25 passes unanimously and the medals will be established. K-26 passes and the Comintern's rank structure will be changed accordingly. F-27 passes and our industrial development effort will be split between mines and heavy industry. F-28 passes unanimously and our research assignments will be optimized. F-29 passes and anyone who serves for ten years will receive two different medals. L-30 fails by one vote and we will not produce low-gravity infrastructure at this time. I-31 passes by one vote and, starting next year, research and industrial plans will be made in five-year increments instead of one-year increments, unless developing emergencies require more immediate attention. as with all legislation, this may be repealed later should you change your mind. H-32 passes and we will make Mars Red. N-33 passes and some industrial capacity will be dedicated to conserving TNEs. N-34 passes and the Public Broadcasting Service will be established. S-35 passes very narrowly and we will upgrade our orbital surveillance capabilities. A-36 passes and the new policy will be implemented, details here: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?goto=post&postid=509498030#post509498030 A-37 passes and we will develop a common constructed language for MOSA and spaceflight operations. Thank you very much to everyone who made a proposal, participated in discussion, or voted! I'll start working on an update and try to have it up by tomorrow night!
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Mister Bates posted:When I started this game I knew I wanted it to be set in an alternate past and do a sort of period piece, and I was torn between doing late Victorian era sci-fi that was already done, or at least attempted - it fell prey to the Curse fairly quickly
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Nov 5, 2020 09:41
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A shame too, because I rather liked it. This one is awesome though!
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Nov 5, 2020 09:56
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sebmojo posted:that was already done, or at least attempted - it fell prey to the Curse fairly quickly Which one was it and what happened? I was following War of the Worlds I think it was called, with Terrans, Martians as Goon-led, and the Jovian corporations. There was a victorian one that popped up around the same time I think, are you talking about that?
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Nov 5, 2020 10:33
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All I can think of when someone mentions Victorian era space scifi is that one Ultima spinoff on Mars that was lped ages ago
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Nov 5, 2020 10:39
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While we're on the subject of what's good about this one: have people been enjoying my digression into alt-australian history? Any comments or criticisms?
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NewMars posted:While we're on the subject of what's good about this one: have people been enjoying my digression into alt-australian history? Any comments or criticisms? so long as the Meanjin Commune gets a shout out later on I say continue.
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Sanev.Khan posted:Which one was it and what happened? I was following War of the Worlds I think it was called, with Terrans, Martians as Goon-led, and the Jovian corporations. There was a victorian one that popped up around the same time I think, are you talking about that? Yep.
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New Afrika believes, wholeheartedly, that to end the Socialist Aid Program so early is counterrevolutionary and against the will of the people- and is possibly indicative of infiltration of the Comintern's highest deliberative body by agents of Gladio.
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While not as quick to cast aspersions on the allegiances of our colleagues, the Kalmar Union agrees on the importance on providing at least the basic needs of every comrade in the ComIntern, with enough to spare for any who wishes to join our grand endeavour. If we cannot provide at least this much, can we truly say we are better than the capitalists, liberals and fascists of the world?
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Comrades, let us not ascribe sinister motives to disagreements of policy. We can disagree on the best path to Utopia without being enemies.
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Nov 5, 2020 16:38
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I’m glad we didn’t go with Victorian. 70s Soviet retrofuture is much easier to grasp, and I can already imagine goons competing to create the most absurd 19th century style portmanteaus for spacetech along the line of Velocipedes and atomic auto-gyro.
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Rhjamiz posted:I’m glad we didn’t go with Victorian. 70s Soviet retrofuture is much easier to grasp, and I can already imagine goons competing to create the most absurd 19th century style portmanteaus for spacetech along the line of Velocipedes and atomic auto-gyro. ...damnit that actually sounds amazing. Ah well, next time~ 
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Nov 6, 2020 16:47
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The aether theory, phlogiston... all true.
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Nov 6, 2020 17:13
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I would be all about a Spelljammer themed Aurora LP
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I've been enjoying the Sovietwave stuff that come with updates. It reminds me a lot of the ambient music from EVE. But I won't stop picturing something closer to this aesthetic the further along we get. Just more honestly optimistic (and communist) and with less (overt) imperialism.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTbS8BEa1oI edit: look at those glorious hats Rhjamiz fucked around with this message at 02:15 on Nov 7, 2020 |
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Nov 7, 2020 02:10
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yeah the united empire is basically "what if we made fascism diverse?"
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Serf posted:yeah the united empire is basically "what if we made fascism diverse?" Yeah pretty much
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Asterite34 posted:I would be all about a Spelljammer themed Aurora LP Not to take anything away from this one, which is ideally timed and excellent, but young-me who fell in love with Spelljammer feels this in my soul as well. Perhaps next time someone starts one of these.
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Listen to this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElhHt3NCJNY January 1, 1981 The delegates begin to return home, and the policies voted on for this year are put into effect.  The medals are established. They look squashed because the dev's intent is for you to use ribbon bars rather than full-sized medals (don't forget there's a tool to make them right here: http://aurora2.pentarch.org/index.php?board=283.0). While they look squashed on this screen, they will look normal and correct when actually awarded. I also added the other medal but forgot to do it until after I had taken the screenshot; I promise it is there.  The ranks are renamed.  Research is reallocated, and our first mining project will take about two years.  Construction of TN mines is spun up, and the recycling program begins. We'll start construction on the Luna DSTS after some mines are online. January 8, 1981 The Trans-en-Provence Case. Renato Nicolai, a farmer living outside Trans-en-Provence, France, reports to the local militia that he sighted a grey, saucer-shaped flying object land in a clearing on his property, remain there for a while, and then take off. He points out depressions left in the dirt and scorch marks on nearby grass. MOSA investigators determine the sighting is likely false; the Deep Space Tracking Network detected nothing out of the ordinary at the time, nor did local radar. Despite this, the news spreads like wildfire, and a wave of similar UFO sightings will follow over the coming months, with Ministry personnel having to chase each one down, just in case one turns out to be a genuine alien incursion. The security battalion at Ascension Island is put on high alert just in case, and spend their time keeping up surveillance and manning defensive positions. They take to it with good humor - it's something to do, on what is otherwise rapidly becoming a notoriously boring assignment. January 15, 1981 The first recorded instance of a member of the Ascension Island security detachment calling themselves 'Skywatch', an unofficial name which catches on rapidly. January 30, 1981 Uniformed soldiers of the 'South African Defense Force', the disbanded former military of apartheid South Africa, raid an African National Congress office in Mozambique in the late evening, killing 15 people before disappearing into the darkness. They leave behind three bodies. February 2, 1981   The sensor designs to be used for the FESTER surveillance stations are presented, and will be researched as soon as labs are available. February 11, 1981  The Comintern's third and fourth interplanetary spacecraft, the exploration vessels Karzelek and Skarbnik, finish construction and exit the shipyards to cheers and applause from Mission Control at Ascension. Each ship has a crew of 32, and provisions and amenities for a three-year mission. The vast majority of the Karzelek-class ships' internal volume is occupied by the sensor arrays. Power is supplied mostly by solar panels and a pair of radioactive-isotope thermoelectric generators, and huge radiator panels extend out from the ship's aft section to vent the incredible amount of waste heat produced by its nuclear thermal engine. They have a single small lander capable of carrying an away team of 6-10 people to the surface of a body for brief excursions. With no artificial gravity, the three-year deployment time is achieved by placing the crew accommodations in a rotating section amidships, allowing the crew to live in simulated gravity.   Up-and-coming officers Grizzwold and LostCosmonaut are given command of the vessels, and will lead them into the unknown. They will be the fastest humans to have ever lived. They will also be the most isolated; their journey will take them beyond the Moon, to places where no human being has ever gone before. Their first mission will be a shakedown cruise to Luna, then surveying operations there. The two ships will survey the Moon together, and then their captains and crews will meet for a ceremonial banquet at the Lunagrad command center - then they will bid each other, and the human race, farewell for the next three years.  As no organizational structure has been formalized, MOSA's hierarchy is extremely flat, and they remain under the direct command of MOSA director Fedya Kuzmin, a former fighter pilot and geologist. The brilliantly smart but notoriously superstitious Kuzmin gives the newly-assigned captains each a framed satellite photograph of the Earth, a large red flag, and, 'for luck', a slug of high-quality vodka.   The initial 'cruise' is almost comically easy. What took Armstrong and Aldrin and Collins days in their tiny aluminum-can spacecraft now takes the Comintern's brave explorers four minutes. The nuclear-thermal rockets light up like miniature suns as the superheated sorium is expelled from the nozzles, and the ships break Earth orbit with incredible speed. Trans-Newtonian spaceflight takes getting used to, even for experienced cosmonauts. In conventional spaceflight, flying under continuous thrust at this speed would result in the crew being smears on the aft bulkheads - and, indeed, the G-forces experienced while accelerating to full speed can be significant, necessitating strapping into crash couches and securing loose items. Once that's done, though, the ship's motion is barely perceptible at all, and the crew can and do freely float about. Changing course or velocity results in noticeable G-loads, but otherwise, the ship may as well be stationary, aside from the constant slight vibration produced by the engine. It's disconcerting. February 12, 1981  The ships begin the long, slow process of surveying the Moon. Even with two powerful sensors, it will take several days before results are available. February 22, 1981  The survey report is available, and it exceeds expectations. In addition to a small amount of duranium (about 1/20th of Earth's untapped reserves), an unbelievably vast motherlode of corbomite glitters on the sensor printouts. The estimated total tonnage is more than thirty times Earth's total untapped corbomite reserves. Corbomite is used primarily in electronics and computing and has potential applications as a room-temperature superconductor. It is expected to be very valuable to the future Trans-Newtonian economy, and the discovery of so much of it instantly vindicates MOSA's decision to settle Luna. News of this discovery is spread far and wide, and it makes for excellent propaganda for the space program. The celebratory banquet for the ships' crews at Lunagrad is televised the worlds over. February 25, 1981 This is it. The time has come. Every piece of equipment has been checked and rechecked. Wills have been written and confirmed. The sensors have been proven to work. Even in the short time since its settlement, Luna has become almost familiar. Mere hours of travel time away from Ascension or Honolulu, of which only minutes are spent en route, the ramshackle, cheerful little city of Lunagrad, and the outlying little communities sprawling out around it, are already starting to feel like simply another part of the Comintern's community of nations. The Moon is still mostly unexplored and uninhabited, and who knows what secrets remain to be found there, but it's still part of 'home' to the cosmonauts aboard the two exploration ships. Now it's time to leave it behind. Karzelek will go to Mars, a journey of two and a half days. Skarbnik will go to Venus, which, due to favorable orbital positions, will take a mere fourteen hours. While faster-than-light communication through Trans-Newtonian spacetime has been mathematically proven possible and is even believed to be technically feasible in the near future, it doesn't exist yet, and the ships will be forced to communicate with Earth via conventional, old-fashioned radio. The light delay will be significant, and Ascension Island will be unable to address situations in real time. In the event of an emergency the Luna and Tranquility can be dispatched to the rescue, but their speed, once considered amazingly fast, is agonizingly slow when compared to the vastness of interplanetary space. Should anything happen, the cosmonauts will be on their own.  
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Nov 7, 2020 08:14
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It looks like lunagrad will be the electronics capital of the solar system.
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nice one Lunagrad.
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You know, even though it looks primitive, the interface really works well for making space feel empty and a bit haunted.
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in my test game I ran for a few ingame years before starting this LP, the survey of Luna found jack and poo poo, pleasantly surprised we got a good result this time
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