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bike tory posted:Even people with good insurance can get hosed! Someone was telling me just the other day about a friend who had emergency surgery and it turned out the specific surgeon who ended up operating was not covered despite the hospital being covered. $140k bill or some poo poo. And that was with a good insurance plan! Most people in medical bankruptcy have insurance.
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something like that happens to 1 in 5 insurance-havers who choose to undergo surgery in the US lol
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stone soup posted:something like that happens to 1 in 5 insurance-havers who choose to undergo surgery in the US lol My wife had a parade of doctors visit her after our first child was born. No telling who was in network. He's 5yo now and I still owe money on that bill.
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bike tory posted:Even people with good insurance can get hosed! Someone was telling me just the other day about a friend who had emergency surgery and it turned out the specific surgeon who ended up operating was not covered despite the hospital being covered. $140k bill or some poo poo. And that was with a good insurance plan! Nah you need one that covers out of network doctors too you see, it's way more expensive and your employer probably doesn't offer it and you probably couldn't afford it anyway but it technically exists so the free market works.
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anonumos posted:My wife had a parade of doctors visit her after our first child was born. No telling who was in network. He's 5yo now and I still owe money on that bill. wtf can parents do about this? Hang a “NO SOLICITORS” sign in the hospital room?
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bike tory posted:good insurance plan! no such thing
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anonumos posted:My wife had a parade of doctors visit her after our first child was born. No telling who was in network. He's 5yo now and I still owe money on that bill. Every time I hear about poo poo like this I stand back in awe and horror. I don't know how you guys haven't gotten together and guillotined the insurance company execs. I had to have urgent dental surgery earlier this year and I had to pay about $1200 for the (private) hospital and anaesthetist because I'm too cheap to get health insurance. I didn't pay the surgeon anything because he's covered by Medicare, including the half dozen or so visits I've had with him before and after.
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Carth Dookie posted:Every time I hear about poo poo like this I stand back in awe and horror. I don't know how you guys haven't gotten together and guillotined the insurance company execs. Because there are a lot of people who drank the kool aid on free healthcare having "government death panels" and "insane wait times" Nevermind that my fiance was on psoriasis medicine, her insurance changed companies at work, and the new people wouldn't cover it. She spent the last year getting sample packs of the medicine while her doctor tried to get them to cover it. Surprisingly the third party arbitrator Anthem paid for sided with them on "she doesn't need this medicine" Now they've switched back to Sumacare who doesn't like that she's on ADD medicine. There was a whole process before they would cover anything and they'll only cover name brand so instead of a $10 generic refill she has to pay $40 And there was the time I called the doctor to try and get in antidepressants and it was a month wait
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Another factor is that a lot of people who have never really gotten sick have never really dealt with the true, monstrous face of for profit health insurance.
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Len posted:Because there are a lot of people who drank the kool aid on free healthcare having "government death panels" and "insane wait times" the aca is poo poo but the death panels argument made me go crosseyed with rage because like what the gently caress do you think insurance companies denying claims or not covering stuff is, you absolute dipshits? at least your government theoretically is supposed to work for the citizen, all the insurance companies are obligated to do is maximize profits!
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this conversation reminded me i have a doctors appointment coming up to find out if i'm just an rear end in a top hat or actually have add and i really need to see if that's covered
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It's good when corporations choose who dies because they'll just choose poor people. I'm a lower middle class temporarily embarrassed millionaire 
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Platystemon posted:wtf can parents do about this? Hang a “NO SOLICITORS” sign in the hospital room? Literally nothing, you are not consulted or given choices at any juncture, random doctors show up, say one or two useless things and disappear and you just have to pray it's all in network. We prechose gynecologist and pediatrician, but there were at least 4 or 5 other strangers who showed up, nodded in acknowledgement at us having a baby, and disappeared after telling us she is indeed healthy. They were apparently all in network, but that was pure luck.
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Kitfox88 posted:the aca is poo poo but the death panels argument made me go crosseyed with rage because like it's right-wing "accuse the other side of wanting to do exactly what you're already currently doing"
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Apologies if this has been posted before. https://www.hcamag.com/us/specialization/mental-health/fun-friday-mcdonalds-twitter-thread-is-a-lesson-in-empathy/238228
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Forceholy posted:Another factor is that a lot of people who have never really gotten sick have never really dealt with the true, monstrous face of for profit health insurance. I don't super buy this one because most of the people who are still against socialized medicine tend to be older. I've seen plenty of people in that demographic who have gotten hosed by insurance, realize how awful it is, and are still absolutely convinced socialized medicine would be somehow worse and cost them more.
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Mushika posted:Apologies if this has been posted before. That would be much funnier as a dril tweet and not a mcdonalds official tweet tbh. Also in my opinion the most pathetic one is definitely IBM: https://twitter.com/IBM/status/1319736961519767552 Never, the answer is never.
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Shame Boy posted:That would be much funnier as a dril tweet and not a mcdonalds official tweet tbh. ibm pulling this poo poo is like the "how do you do fellow kids" meme but instead of awkward buscemi it's loving hitler
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Len posted:Because there are a lot of people who drank the kool aid on free healthcare having "government death panels" and "insane wait times" America is the Drake meme with “government death panels” on top and “corporate death panels” on the bottom
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Dreylad posted:can we execute a brand? unsure but willing to find out Corporations can be liquidated.
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my wife is a brand (love you taco bell-chan)
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bike tory posted:it turned out the specific surgeon who ended up operating was not covered despite the hospital being covered. $140k bill or some poo poo. And that was with a good insurance plan! In a normal country this just sounds extremely like a "Not My Problem". You didnt get to pick your doctor, so your insurance can figure that poo poo out. Why would you have to pay anything extra for that. Just bizarre.
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Kitfox88 posted:the aca is poo poo but the death panels argument made me go crosseyed with rage because like every time i listen to a conversation about health care i just zone out and think about the woman who drove herself to the hospital after a bear ripped off her face; she said dealing with the insurance company was by far the most miserable part of the whole thing
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i went to the er the other day because i couldn't breathe and the worst part was waiting to get a call from registration to get my insurance. thankfully i have medicaid so uncle sam is my mentally unstable sugardaddy
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i am a federal employee and when I decided to actually compare plans to see if there was a better option for me I called every one of them and not a single one could tell me how much ANYTHING would cost.
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anonumos posted:My wife had a parade of doctors visit her after our first child was born. No telling who was in network. He's 5yo now and I still owe money on that bill. yo thats bad thankfully biden will pass a bill to allow you to refinance and continue paying now say youre welcome and walk away
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Meanwhile in Denmark, the government pays for everything except dental, and you can go to a website to check how much the MRI scan you just got cost of you're curious. Of course, you can still buy private insurance, and the horrible part of that you have a right to use a private alternative if the wait is too long in the public hospitals. The government still pays in that case, but they post whatever the private hospital feels is fair.
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BonHair posted:Meanwhile in Denmark, the government pays for everything except dental, and you can go to a website to check how much the MRI scan you just got cost of you're curious. wow what a hellscape of a country smh prayers go out
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BonHair posted:Meanwhile in Denmark, the government pays for everything except dental, and you can go to a website to check how much the MRI scan you just got cost of you're curious. love how that even in denmark teeth are just like bonus bones no one cares about
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BonHair posted:Meanwhile in Denmark, the government pays for everything except dental, and you can go to a website to check how much the MRI scan you just got cost of you're curious. Also sometimes a minister will overpay these private clinics enormously and what happens is that he then becomes PM. Twice.
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Shame Boy posted:That would be much funnier as a dril tweet and not a mcdonalds official tweet tbh. im not going to look it up but I'm pretty sure ibm still makes mainframes 
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Salean posted:wow what a hellscape of a country I mean, it's no America. But we have some good people trying to change that! Meanwhile, we are having a debate about whether mink farming is worth a new covid strain. Surely fur coats are worth an extra pandemic! Luckily the government has (finally) decided to kill all mink. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-54818615 Picture of dead animals: 
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IAMKOREA posted:love how that even in denmark teeth are just like bonus bones no one cares about canada is the same and it pisses me off. we have to pay for prescription drugs too but at least the government negotiates prices so we don't totally get ripped off.
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Len posted:Because there are a lot of people who drank the kool aid on free healthcare having "government death panels" and "insane wait times" The place I work for switched insurances (or rather, we got bought out and converted over). Was really fun calling up my old GP about it, since we went from insurance and HQ in Nevada to HQ in Florida and insurance out of loving Alabama for some reason. The person on the other end of the phone asked me twice where I lived because even she was baffled at this (and then told me to find some other GP because my new insurance isn't accepted there  )I had one prescription in particular from a specialist that is still covered, and yet when I went to pick up my refill I found out that our new insurance denied it because it needed "pre approval". That was fun to deal with.
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