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Spoggerific posted:I've lived in Japan for about four years. The majority of people hardly know anything about WW2 except that the US nuked them and they lost. I get the feeling that for the most part the lack of knowledge is ignorance and poor education about the war, rather than chuddery or an intentional attempt to deny or rewrite the past. The lovely WW2 education is possibly intentional from a right-wing government where the Prime Minister gives yearly visits to a shrine dedicated to Japanese war criminals. Yeah we had a few Japanese "self defense force" cadets around once, they didn't know a loving thing about WWII history even by American standards. We also had Chinese (Taiwan) cadets there too, they loving HATED their guts and the Japanese students were oblivious as to why. A lot of them had grandparents and great grandparents that fought the Japanese or were subjected to all sorts of warcrimes.
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SpaceSDoorGunner posted:Yeah we had a few Japanese "self defense force" cadets around once, they didn't know a loving thing about WWII history even by American standards. I was talking to my (Japanese) wife, who is a wonderful woman in almost all aspects, about history one time, when I mentioned that Japan was allied to Germany during WW2. Her response was "Wait, weren't they the bad guys?". After some lengthy discussion and a lot of me interpreting wiki and other history articles into Japanese for her, she was shocked, but willing to accept that Japan did some Pretty Bad poo poo in the past. Of course, we've also talked about some of the awful poo poo that the US did as well. I'm under no illusion that we've pretty much ever been the good guys.
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Nov 6, 2020 15:54
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The real secret to history is that everyone is the bad guys most of the time. The rest of the time you're the victim.
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Nov 6, 2020 15:59
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Every country has a history of heinous poo poo.
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Nov 6, 2020 16:02
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Yeah, imagine if your country was known for invading places, staying there for years, and killing millions of inhabitants, maiming millions more, and destroying the livelihood of all the people you didn't kill
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UP THE BUM NO BABY posted:Yeah, imagine if your country was known for invading places, staying there for years, and killing millions of inhabitants, maiming millions more, and destroying the livelihood of all the people you didn't kill Honestly, gonna have to be more specific. You just described most of europe, and more than a few other places. The only clue is millions, which makes me think one of the major colonial powers...
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RFC2324 posted:Honestly, gonna have to be more specific. You just described most of europe, and more than a few other places. The only clue is millions, which makes me think one of the major colonial powers... Don't forget Belgium, though I guess the congo could make it count as a colonial power.
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Nov 6, 2020 16:23
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RFC2324 posted:Honestly, gonna have to be more specific. You just described most of europe, and more than a few other places. The only clue is millions, which makes me think one of the major colonial powers... I'm reading it going all the way back to Assyria. Humans suck in general and always have.
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Nov 6, 2020 16:35
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Stultus Maximus posted:Ignorance and poor education about your country's shameful history is always the result of intentionally rewriting history. This mindset, while good for stirring up anger, often fails to acknowledge and account for complex interactions of nonaction. It searches for perpetrators and hopes to enforce via promises that, if you're negligent, some people, probably many years after your death, may find out and think poorly of you. I think its more effective to assume that ignorance and poor education about national shame is the natural state, what happens automatically like disrepair and aging and that, without a consistent stream of maintenance, a people will turn to this default. It's a responsibility of the citizenry to participate in this maintenance because in both authoritarian and democratic states, it benefits those in power to ignore them at risk to the nation as a whole.
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RFC2324 posted:Honestly, gonna have to be more specific. You just described most of europe, and more than a few other places. The only clue is millions, which makes me think one of the major colonial powers... Yeah I think the opposite, this is the most general statement that can apply to most nations, alliances and empires for organized human history. We continue to grapple with the impulses of our caveman software with new and inventive ways of carrying out our worst desires.
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RFC2324 posted:Honestly, gonna have to be more specific. You just described most of europe, and more than a few other places. The only clue is millions, which makes me think one of the major colonial powers... I thought that was the point he was making lol
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Nov 6, 2020 16:47
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As Nero Danced posted:I'm reading it going all the way back to Assyria. Humans suck in general and always have. We have a long history of loving over our neighbor to get ahead. This isn't something unique to America. However, America is pretty good at it.
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Nov 6, 2020 16:48
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Ireland is the only good nation. I will not be reading replies.
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GOP back on their old poo poo https://twitter.com/ReporterCioffi/status/1324743384427352066
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Slim Pickens posted:GOP back on their old poo poo Yelling!!!! I know exactly what's going to happen and I still get mad.
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Slim Pickens posted:GOP back on their old poo poo DEMS AND THE DEFECIT AND RECKLESS SPENDING.
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Slim Pickens posted:GOP back on their old poo poo 
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Slim Pickens posted:GOP back on their old poo poo Good idea, Senator. Let's start by reversing Trump's tax cuts and cutting ICE to the bone and beyond.
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NO BAILOUTS FOR BLUE STATES :smugturtle:
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Someone stale current event, Good Eats host, Alton Brown, went crazy on Twitter Monday night in some kind of pre-election fugue state. Some choice tweets: https://twitter.com/altonbrown/status/1323446031208615936?s=21 https://twitter.com/altonbrown/status/1323446848875646978?s=21 https://twitter.com/altonbrown/status/1323448232706531329?s=21 https://twitter.com/altonbrown/status/1323450619634569219?s=21 https://twitter.com/altonbrown/status/1323454897652715520?s=21 And yesterday, he finally snapped on pineapples: https://twitter.com/altonbrown/status/1324451322381389825?s=21 And then finally piped in with a truly on-point tweet: https://twitter.com/altonbrown/status/1324505538638553088?s=21
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Nov 7, 2020 02:35
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I wish more people with large platforms used those platforms for the absurd.
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Thwomp posted:Someone stale current event, Good Eats host, Alton Brown, went crazy on Twitter Monday night in some kind of pre-election fugue state. You just scared the absolute loving poo poo out of me, I know Alton has a traditional/conservative background, and I was afraid he just went bonkers or something in the bad way. Phew...I love the crap out of good eats back in the day. Beyond cooking the man also loves his Fabrique National products. https://twitter.com/altonbrown/status/1324506284222304259?s=21
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I was shopping at a Costco when they had a line out the door and along the building for an Alton Brown book signing. I wasn’t there for that but watched when it started at 11am and on the dot he was shaking hands, smiling, and chatting away. It was cool to see him respecting his fans.
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Nov 7, 2020 04:36
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Old heads will remember Alton Brown having a meltdown on twitter in early 10s which is why when he return later he'd just post pictures of post-it notes of his responses.
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Thwomp posted:Someone stale current event, Good Eats host, Alton Brown, went crazy on Twitter Monday night in some kind of pre-election fugue state. Ddin't someone else go batshit on the election eve too? Christina applegate mabbe?
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Hyrax Attack! posted:I was shopping at a Costco when they had a line out the door and along the building for an Alton Brown book signing. I wasn’t there for that but watched when it started at 11am and on the dot he was shaking hands, smiling, and chatting away. It was cool to see him respecting his fans. Yeah, I’ve never heard a bad thing about him. Even though he’s pretty religious/conservative*, he always framed it as being about love vs putting someone down. Finding out he was a super CHUD would have really sucked. *Ironically was the DP for REMs losing my religion video. Nick Soapdish posted:Old heads will remember Alton Brown having a meltdown on twitter in early 10s which is why when he return later he'd just post pictures of post-it notes of his responses. I honestly just thought that was him doing a fun way of responding to fans. I also recall him showing off a really sweet Hi-Power. What caused it?
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MazelTovCocktail posted:I honestly just thought that was him doing a fun way of responding to fans. I also recall him showing off a really sweet Hi-Power. What caused it? http://fancypantsfoodie.com/2011/07/20/alton-browns-deleted-twitter-missive/ Like most people who didn't have online as teens or grow up with it, he lost the plot over others instead of banning and moving on
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Milo and POTUS posted:Ddin't someone else go batshit on the election eve too? Christina applegate mabbe? Yeah last I saw people thought she was having an actual stroke
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Thwomp posted:Someone stale current event, Good Eats host, Alton Brown, went crazy on Twitter Monday night in some kind of pre-election fugue state. I think I'm okay with this.
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MazelTovCocktail posted:Yeah, I’ve never heard a bad thing about him. Even though he’s pretty religious/conservative*, he always framed it as being about love vs putting someone down. Finding out he was a super CHUD would have really sucked. Kind of feels like a lot of that was his ex-wife's doing.
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MazelTovCocktail posted:Yeah, I’ve never heard a bad thing about him. Even though he was pretty religious/conservative*, he always framed it as being about love vs putting someone down. Finding out he was a super CHUD would have really sucked. Alton Brown posted:“There’s too much contradiction for my social beliefs. My social beliefs are far more liberal than what falls under most of the structures of organized religion, and I find that difficult to work with.” Good on you Alton for being true to yourself.
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Will there be real progress on renaming the bases now?
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davecrazy posted:Will there be real progress on renaming the bases now? McConnell already said he didn't really give a gently caress, so probably.
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davecrazy posted:Will there be real progress on renaming the bases now? If Mr. Esper wants to make it happen, he'll need to survive 74 more days, no easy task. What a graceful exit that would be though.
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We will need to find something new to sqwawk to mock morons from the 82nd.
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A Bad Poster posted:We will need to find something new to sqwawk to mock morons from the 82nd. The 101st can just say "Bastonge" like they've done since 1945.`
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piL posted:If Mr. Esper wants to make it happen, he'll need to survive 74 more days, no easy task. What a graceful exit that would be though. Didn't he write up a resignation letter right after election day?
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As Nero Danced posted:Didn't he write up a resignation letter right after election day? That's was basically a bullshit story, it was a standard end-of-term resignation letter, versus an "I'm resigning now" kind of letter.
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