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facialimpediment
Feb 11, 2005

as the world turns
Pfizer (not part of Operation Warp Speed) put out a presser from early data they got on their vaccine candidate, and it's real good:

https://twitter.com/HelenBranswell/status/1325785269400973318?s=19

Based on the statnews article, this doesn't seem to be company bullshitting, but it *is* just a press release at this point. Probably means we'll have a good vaccine eventually, it's just about getting to the eventually.

https://www.statnews.com/2020/11/09/covid-19-vaccine-from-pfizer-and-biontech-is-strongly-effective-early-data-from-large-trial-indicate/

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Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS
Ninety percent effectiveness in preventing disease is good, but we have a problem if the vaccine doesn’t produce sterilising immunity, so there are still as many carriers out there, they’re just shifted to the asymptomatic column, and they’re behaving as if they don’t have a care in the world.

For all that “herd immunity” has been bandied about by bad actors, vaccines can give it to us and we need it, but we need better than “only protects from serious disease” and “one and a half billion doses through the end of 2021.

The other vaccines will at least help with the latter.

pantslesswithwolves
Oct 28, 2008

Offering my totally sincere condolences to the Chuds who have broken their fingers by typing so fast in a race to be the first to claim that Pfizer has known for weeks but announced this after the election so they could undermine Trump’s electoral chances.

As Nero Danced
Sep 3, 2009

Alright, let's do this

pantslesswithwolves posted:

Offering my totally sincere condolences to the Chuds who have broken their fingers by typing so fast in a race to be the first to claim that Pfizer has known for weeks but announced this after the election so they could undermine Trump’s electoral chances.

Countdown to Trump tweeting "Pfizer held back on purpose! I'll never use viagra again!"

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

pantslesswithwolves posted:

Offering my totally sincere condolences to the Chuds who have broken their fingers by typing so fast in a race to be the first to claim that Pfizer has known for weeks but announced this after the election so they could undermine Trump’s electoral chances.

It also indicates that Trump maybe wasn’t lying during the debates about the wonderful vaccine that’s almost ready.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

hobbesmaster posted:

It also indicates that Trump maybe wasn’t lying during the debates about the wonderful vaccine that’s almost ready.

Lying is all about intent.

If a person makes a statement they believe to be false, it’s a lie, even if the statement is, unbeknownst to them, correct.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

hobbesmaster posted:

It also indicates that Trump maybe wasn’t lying during the debates about the wonderful vaccine that’s almost ready.

I don't think Trump was aware of what pfizer was doing, because pfizer was not involved in the Government Covid vaccine push.

Nick Soapdish
Apr 27, 2008


As Nero Danced posted:

Countdown to Trump tweeting "Pfizer held back on purpose! I'll never use viagra again!"

Close enough for now

https://twitter.com/DonaldJTrumpJr/status/1325791542490050561

Defenestrategy
Oct 24, 2010

Also the release says it could be out before the end of the year, not that it will be out in time for xmas.

facialimpediment
Feb 11, 2005

as the world turns

CommieGIR posted:

I don't think Trump was aware of what pfizer was doing, because pfizer was not involved in the Government Covid vaccine push.

Apparently Pfizer got this data at like 3AM this morning from the vaccine review board, so the system oddly worked.

If it still turns out good, it'll be a funky world when we got rid of Donnie, the poo poo COVID numbers allowed a solid test of the vaccine, and chuddy fucks will be likelier to take Donnie's great big huge vaccine.

ASAPI
Apr 20, 2007
I invented the line.

So I've noticed a bunch of Trump supporters suddenly talking about moving from Facebook to MeWe or Parler.

What's the deal with that? Did some super Chud start telling everyone to move? Not sure if its related, but most of the people saying they are moving are Mormons. Was there an announcement or something?

CRUSTY MINGE
Mar 30, 2011

Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur
You should delete facebook anyhow. Most of those chuds are barely tech literate enough to be on facebook, they're not all gonna leave.

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

CommieGIR posted:

I don't think Trump was aware of what pfizer was doing, because pfizer was not involved in the Government Covid vaccine push.

https://twitter.com/60minutes/status/1325606944674025475?s=21

I think he would’ve been briefed? I mean, he clearly doesn’t care much about details but still I’m actually extremely surprised there was a kernel of truth to his statements.

Internet Wizard
Aug 9, 2009

BANDAIDS DON'T FIX BULLET HOLES

Parler is the successor to Gab, which is Nazi Twitter. They’re moving because they’re mad that Twitter has started flagging the constant streams of misinformation the CHUDs feed on

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

hobbesmaster posted:

https://twitter.com/60minutes/status/1325606944674025475?s=21

I think he would’ve been briefed? I mean, he clearly doesn’t care much about details but still I’m actually extremely surprised there was a kernel of truth to his statements.

The development is more recent than his promise was, I'm sure he's briefed (if he actually listened), but it wasn't available at the time he was promising, nor was it connected to anything he was running.

UP THE BUM NO BABY
Sep 1, 2011

by Hand Knit
Facebook has been cracking down on Q and poo poo, so they're probably leaving Facebook because of censorship and oppression

That Works
Jul 22, 2006

Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy


I started a Parler account just to see if people local to me were calling for revolution or what not and wanted to at least be aware. Nothing much so far but goddamn every reply to anyone popular is racist / bigoted trash. It's like being in the early 2000's "ironic" internet again.



Also, this is lovely, I had just started the History of Ancient Greece a couple months ago, seems it's run by a sketchy AF officer.

https://twitter.com/mikeduncan/status/1325809090455592962?s=20

Marshal Prolapse
Jun 23, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

shame on an IGA
Apr 8, 2005

That pfizer vaccine has to be stored and transported at -94° and remains viable for less than 24 hours at normal freezer temperatures so if you want to make an indirect stock play look at welding gas vendors.

E: poo poo might be too late already Linde is up 25% in the last 2 weeks

shame on an IGA fucked around with this message at 18:01 on Nov 9, 2020

Duzzy Funlop
Jan 13, 2010

Hi there, would you like to try some spicy products?

The vaccine was developed by BioNTech, though, Pfizer's only pre-commerzialization contribution (outside a metric assload of money) is the expanded trial capacity that the large pharma giants have.
Pfizer's "real work" only starts when a certain success-probability in the development is reached, and then the industrialization starts to ramp up to yet another milestone (below full capacity) until certification can be achieved.
Then, "full commercialization" starts, the developing company gets yet another metric assload of money, and Pfizer starts rolling in the gently caress-you-tier money.

There are also still a bunch of question marks regarding this vaccine, like if it can prevent asymptomatic-carrying, or the really severe case development.

Also also:
The street address of BioNTech's research headquarters is "An der Goldgrube 12", which translates to "Near the Goldmine".

:capitalism:

Oxygenpoisoning
Feb 21, 2006
Ben Carson caught covid from the WH election party. I wonder how bad of super spreader event that was.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/09/politics/ben-carson-coronavirus/index.html

Defenestrategy
Oct 24, 2010

Oxygenpoisoning posted:

Ben Carson caught covid from the WH election party. I wonder how bad of super spreader event that was.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/09/politics/ben-carson-coronavirus/index.html

He'll be fine, he has magic healing hands.

Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

USPOL May

Oxygenpoisoning posted:

Ben Carson caught covid from the WH election party. I wonder how bad of super spreader event that was.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/09/politics/ben-carson-coronavirus/index.html

It's amazing that a renowned surgeon gets the virus because he won't take sensible precautions for fear of a howling baboon calling him names on the internet.

facialimpediment
Feb 11, 2005

as the world turns
Mad because bad and sad.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1325859407620689922

Marshal Prolapse
Jun 23, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

I'm concerned, because, much like Milley, he clearly learned lessons from Lafayette Square, and was keen on not repeating such mistakes.

facialimpediment
Feb 11, 2005

as the world turns
Gonna be a bloodbathy kinda day!

https://twitter.com/rtmradio/status/1325861798575284227?s=19

Marshal Prolapse
Jun 23, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Let's also not forget the DOE's National Nuclear Security Administration

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-nuclearweapons-bookless/head-of-u-s-agency-overseeing-nuclear-weapons-stockpile-resigns-idUSKBN27M2SP

Stultus Maximus posted:

It's amazing that a renowned surgeon gets the virus because he won't take sensible precautions for fear of a howling baboon calling him names on the internet.

Ben Carson is the most stark example of "Fighter Pilot/Engineer Brain Disorder."

RFC2324
Jun 7, 2012

http 418

The next few months are going to be interesting while he flails around lashing out to punish the world for not giving him what he wants.

3 year old tantrum, but with nukes where he can reach them

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

"Stand back, Ottawan ruffian, or face my lumens!"

RFC2324 posted:

3 year old tantrum, but with nukes where he can reach them

Ordering a nuclear strike involves reading and processing compartmentalized information. "Just do it" is Nike's slogan, not a valid launch order.

BUG JUG
Feb 17, 2005



Yeah I was gonna say good luck getting the stable brain genius to read a card correctly, or properly memorize a code.

RFC2324
Jun 7, 2012

http 418

BUG JUG posted:

Yeah I was gonna say good luck getting the stable brain genius to read a card correctly, or properly memorize a code.

Looked it up and those 2 things are literally all he has to do, but apparently the code is actually printed on his ID card, according to this. So he just has to read 2 cards to issue the order.

https://time.com/5085723/nuke-button-donald-trump-nuclear-weapons-north-korea/

Small barrier, but I think his stable brain thinking it up is the bigger one. He's not original.

joat mon
Oct 15, 2009

I am the master of my lamp;
I am the captain of my tub.

Bridenstine is just saying he'll resign with the changing of Administrations, which as an empty-suit Trumper, is kind of a no-shitter.
cite

facialimpediment
Feb 11, 2005

as the world turns

RFC2324 posted:

The next few months are going to be interesting while he flails around lashing out to punish the world for not giving him what he wants.

3 year old tantrum, but with nukes where he can reach them

YOU'RE LOCKED IN HERE WITH ME

https://twitter.com/jaketapper/status/1325870591619035138

Marshal Prolapse
Jun 23, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
In Georgia news

https://twitter.com/mikebalsamo1/status/1325878776232878084?s=21

ASAPI
Apr 20, 2007
I invented the line.


What is the over under that her Facebook/MeWe/Parler is filled with pro Trump memes?

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

"Stand back, Ottawan ruffian, or face my lumens!"

RFC2324 posted:

Looked it up and those 2 things are literally all he has to do, but apparently the code is actually printed on his ID card, according to this. So he just has to read 2 cards to issue the order.

https://time.com/5085723/nuke-button-donald-trump-nuclear-weapons-north-korea/

Small barrier, but I think his stable brain thinking it up is the bigger one. He's not original.

It's more complicated than that. He needs to actually have a strike package in mind *before* issuing the order. That requires more reading and critical thought.

Oxygenpoisoning
Feb 21, 2006

BIG HEADLINE posted:

It's more complicated than that. He needs to actually have a strike package in mind *before* issuing the order. That requires more reading and critical thought.

I can just imagine him shouting about Clinton Foundation HQ and Sleepy Joe’s basement while some O6 of the explaining those aren’t valid targets between sighs.

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose

Florida, you're fired. We have Georgia now.

CRUSTY MINGE
Mar 30, 2011

Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur
That's a Karen mod, florida still holds its' title of crazy.

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Defenestrategy
Oct 24, 2010

Vincent Van Goatse posted:

Florida, you're fired. We have Georgia now.

South Georgias always basically been North Florida, but apparently its spread to North Georgia.

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