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apropos to nothing posted:its good that trump isnt president anymore. i didnt vote for biden but its still good. still have a lot of organizing ahead but have had plenty of sign ups and people interested. many people will have illusions in biden to start off, but if you are patient and keep organizing and fighting you will also find that many of those people will have those illusions disabused. you wont do that though if you just poo poo all over them for being glad that trump is gone. be happy with them and then point towards what more needs to be done.
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apropos to nothing posted:learning about politics from a user made fiction mod of a map game fmtfw!!! back in high school my history teacher called on me to answer a question about the economist most associated with urging deficit spending to escape the great depression at that time i had not done any of the required reading, and knew exactly fuckall about anything (catchphrase) but what i had done was play Terranigma. i paused as if struggling to remember the name; in fact, I was dueling myself over whether to say it. i knew the names of literally zero real-world economists, and my only alternative was to just admit that i hadn't read the chapter. finally, i hazarded 'Keinz.' the teacher gently corrected my pronunciation, but nodded appreciatively Aeolius fucked around with this message at 10:08 on Nov 9, 2020 |
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i think most people who vote for a president already wanted to on some level and then hunt around for rationalizations after the fact. although i have some respect for the CPUSA line where they declare their adherence to the 1935 popular front as laid out by comintern chief georgi dimitrov aimed at maximum, heroic unity against the ultra-right which seeks to widen the splits in the ranks of the working class -- and if the party of the liberal bourgeoisie are incapable of dealing with the fascist danger then the working people will substitute their government for one that will ensure firm defense against aggression! and then i read that and go, okay, this might be totally wrong but at least they've put some thought into it. or they're just on the phone with the cuban government that wants the remittances spigot to reopen after trump shut it down. that probably matters on some level on the basis of a tactical decision. but y'know, i usually get annoyed when people engage in moral grandstanding like the "soul of the nation" stuff that liberals buy into, or when people grandstand about not voting, like, yeah you really stuck it to 'em. or like the gonzaloites declaring a boycott and then more people vote than ever, which meant that the boycott probably didn't work. Varinn posted:this has been his new gimmick ever since he realized he could get attention for it, you cant be this gullible and fascism when it took off in interwar europe appealed to exactly those second-rate poets who felt like pathetic little worms and it's like, well, might as join the winning team when it looked like they were winning. he's like "i don't adhere to your mere slave morality and reesentiment against your enemy, i am willing to be truly bold and radical and vote for my enemy!" or something like that. fascists get weird like that. at least he's not going on a quest to throw himself into an artillery barrage in the alps (we could only wish). he's a geek. but then look at tim pool. that guy just made a giant fool out of himself. BrutalistMcDonalds fucked around with this message at 10:38 on Nov 9, 2020 |
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e-dt posted:
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e-dt posted:
a funny thing i noticed was that biden was not on the #beb poster
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gradenko_2000 posted:As a minority I'd like to say that the problem is Biden is absolutely going to get away with bad things that are now no longer going to be considered as bad, because he will make the proper rationalizations for it. They don't give much a poo poo at all, correct. However, the best move people can make regarding the presidency is to pressure the poo poo out of them to do the right thing, because there's opportunity to do SOMETHING. That's because Trump / Pence would actively, intentionally sabotage marginalized people if you even bothered to try. Obviously Biden is going to have most of the same blood on his hands as any other president. What are you gunna do about it? Take the most morally clear road where your actions won't do poo poo, not work with anyone so you can feel like the system purposely rejected you on a personal level? You have to also take some responsibility for intentionally choosing a harder road that's more likely to fail. You can vote for Biden AND fight for all the other poo poo too. You can hate the fucker but know that it's the better option.
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# ? Nov 9, 2020 18:52 |
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Sheng-Ji Yang posted:a funny thing i noticed was that biden was not on the #beb poster Lol
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ButterSkeleton posted:They don't give much a poo poo at all, correct. However, the best move people can make regarding the presidency is to pressure the poo poo out of them to do the right thing, because there's opportunity to do SOMETHING. That's because Trump / Pence would actively, intentionally sabotage marginalized people if you even bothered to try. lmao
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ButterSkeleton posted:They don't give much a poo poo at all, correct. However, the best move people can make regarding the presidency is to pressure the poo poo out of them to do the right thing, because there's opportunity to do SOMETHING. That's because Trump / Pence would actively, intentionally sabotage marginalized people if you even bothered to try. contact taintrunner we have a class IV liberalism leak. masks on everyone
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loving liberals think that its enough to say the right things. It's not assholes. Your failure to imagine anything better than posturing as morally correct is not my failure to have principles.
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T-man posted:contact taintrunner we have a class IV liberalism leak. masks on everyone
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remember always put your own mask on first so you can then assist the posters with the weaker ideological foundations next to you
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Larry Parrish posted:loving liberals think that its enough to say the right things. It's not assholes. Your failure to imagine anything better than posturing as morally correct is not my failure to have principles. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZlK_ThjMk4
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Sheng-Ji Yang posted:a funny thing i noticed was that biden was not on the #beb poster not normally the conspiratorially type but this makes bob's outfit look like an op lol
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# ? Nov 9, 2020 20:25 |
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look just because I'm a part of The Thing doesn't mean i can't contribute to the station still. *woof woof* i can be the dog and the surgeon. don't be so ideologically pure about murdermonsters that eat you, it's not like I'm the DNC
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ButterSkeleton posted:However, the best move people can make regarding the presidency is to pressure the poo poo out of them to do the right thing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4G7TTDEHl5o&t=26s
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# ? Nov 9, 2020 20:35 |
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Y'all we all share some responsibility for bad poo poo that happens in this country by simply being aware of it. Obviously not as much as people in power, but we have to own up to our own responsibility in how we conduct our strategies to make the world a better place and the consequences of the risks we take.
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T-man posted:contact taintrunner we have a class IV liberalism leak. masks on everyone
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Lady Militant posted:not normally the conspiratorially type but this makes bob's outfit look like an op lol infiltrating the revcoms seems like the biggest waste of time and money possible "sir we need more funding so that our undercover agents can scream BEB at bernie rallies"
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Raskolnikov38 posted:infiltrating the revcoms seems like the biggest waste of time and money possible That only makes it seems MORE likely! Remember the guys setting this stuff up would be the same people responsible for the monty pythons flying circus of failed coups against the left in latin america lately
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some pencildick in a maryland suburb googling "left groups that don't like other left groups" and hitting the first link that comes up
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you're perpetuating the country's ability to do war crimes and human rights violations by strategically voting for the slightly more palatable war criminal slash human rights violator it's not any more complicated than that
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liberalism: it could happen to anyone. tell the antilib liberation army if you suspect a comrade may be showing signs.
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Lady Militant posted:some pencildick in a maryland suburb googling "left groups that don't like other left groups" and hitting the first link that comes up Please keep it civil and do not bring dick size into this discussion.
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ButterSkeleton posted:They don't give much a poo poo at all, correct. However, the best move people can make regarding the presidency is to pressure the poo poo out of them to do the right thing, because there's opportunity to do SOMETHING. That's because Trump / Pence would actively, intentionally sabotage marginalized people if you even bothered to try. source ure succ and in case you actually believe this poo poo then first lmao and second, if you're gonna keep voting for garbage in any case then why would the dems ever stop being garbage? they're getting the only thing they want from you anyway.
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T-man posted:look just because I'm a part of The Thing doesn't mean i can't contribute to the station still. *woof woof* i can be the dog and the surgeon. don't be so ideologically pure about murdermonsters that eat you, it's not like I'm the DNC but butterskeleton's my friend, I've known him for years!
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Cerebral Bore posted:source ure succ I take some responsibility for voting in someone who's done hosed up poo poo, yes. Trump in office is worse. I choose to vote for a candidate more likely to remove trump because I feel that him being out of office is vital. I also feel that any other strategy that clearly has a incredibly unrealistic chance of removing him too is even more irresponsible. The right thing moving forward from that is to do whatever I can to try to push better policies locally/nationwide and meaningfully. If I ever wanted to try more radical changes, I am also responsible for making that radical change as realistic as possible, and to accept that radical change needs real work and sacrifice.
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What exactly has trump done thats so bad. Why is he unique. Most of the poo poo people trot out as inexcusable are poo poo that Obama made policy and he continued; Biden fixes that how?
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ButterSkeleton posted:The right thing moving forward from that is to do whatever I can to try to push better policies locally/nationwide and meaningfully. Ok
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ButterSkeleton posted:I take some responsibility for voting in someone who's done hosed up poo poo, yes. Trump in office is worse. I choose to vote for a candidate more likely to remove trump because I feel that him being out of office is vital. I also feel that any other strategy that clearly has a incredibly unrealistic chance of removing him too is even more irresponsible. Liberals have already talked themselves into the belief that they didn't need socialists to win, so what sort of leverage do we have to push better policies if we don't have some sort of material power, through say, a disciplined and militant labor movement?
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even they didn't call the dems fascist lol
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I'm upgrading this to a class V, oxygen recirculates ON people, it can spread through air at this density.
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PERPETUAL IDIOT posted:Please keep it civil and do not bring dick size into this discussion. Its not a size thing, hes literally replaced his dick with a pencil so he can do paperwork more efficiently
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phil got another one
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i feel miserable about being alive but i felt that way during my lib days, owned
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