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Trump also has no idea where America's strength comes from which isn't bloody MAGA. It has always been the international order, it's network of military, values and economic alliances which China has no equivalent or path to. China pays off some country to make a supporting statement who do the absolute minimum. Trump has done everything he could to destroy this with no plan to what to do after like everything else. Trump's Anti-China thing is mixed at best, the first thing he did was tank TPP(It has issues) which was there to economically isolate China. I give him some credit for moving on China overtly but that is as far as I would go given he hosed everything else up with plenty of actions supporting China or snatching defeat from victory even with the easiest of choices. 100% he would take Chinese money if offered. If any credit is due it would be the Cabinet doing their jobs to bypass Trump and dialling down his stupid aka, "The Resistance", as well as House/Senate.
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The junk collector posted:In more interesting news, The rest of the world can only salivate as China begins experimental deployment of it's new 6G network Dick waving continues. You can't just crank up the frequency and magically get more speed. Literally first result  :https://www.rp-photonics.com/terahertz_radiation.html quote:Communications Wasn't that dish suppose to be opened years ago? Also as they couldn't get the few people qualified worldwide to head up the project. The skill set is super specialised and not to be wasted on censorship or false data and poor practises.
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The harder turn in US policy towards China began in 2014-15 under the Obama administration and in terms of actual material policy against the CCP, the Trump administration was underwhelming, with most of the policies that hit the PRC hardest being either continuations of Obama-era DoD policy like the FONOP's in the South China Sea/pivot to Aisa or acts of Congress Like the rest of his presidency, Trump was trying to use smoke and mirrors to obscure the fact that he had either nothing or total bullshit. If there are any clear-thinking individuals in the CCP wrt US Foreign policy right now, they should not be celebrating, because the bipartisan turn against the PRC is 110% real and Trump was actually among the larger barriers to realizing it in policy.
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Pasketti posted:lmao sorry about that, the book scrambled my brain and I was desperate to discuss dont be if you do find some good books post them.
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I guess everybody gets one, but lol at the irony of a fascist regime trying to get in on everyone celebrating the downfall of a fascist "How do you do, fellow freedom lovers!"
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Fojar38 posted:I guess everybody gets one, but lol at the irony of a fascist regime trying to get in on everyone celebrating the downfall of a fascist Alternatively making fun of him for being a poser fascist. "Man, you couldn't even rig an election!"
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Hopefully this will get most of the MAGA dipshits to leave r/China after they have their meltdowns
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Fojar38 posted:Hopefully this will get most of the MAGA dipshits to leave r/China after they have their meltdowns I thought r/China was full of Tankies, and hardcore CCP defenders? Like that bloke who banned someone for posting photographic proof there are homeless people in China. I thought they would hate Trump. At least on the basis of CCP=Communist=Good, therefore Trump=USA Prez=Bad.
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BrigadierSensible posted:I thought r/China was full of Tankies, and hardcore CCP defenders? Like that bloke who banned someone for posting photographic proof there are homeless people in China. That's r/Sino. r/China is pretty anti-CCP even if you ignore the MAGA dipshits r/Sino is one part of the crazy asia-centric fascist subreddits along with r/aznidentity and r/hapas
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i've always felt bad for aznidentity and hapas type posters. even though you get a lot of mixed-asians out of hawaii, nobody feels the way that mixed-race asians who were raised in the continental united states do. it's a consequence of their broader societal upbringing, where they're constantly bombarded with propaganda about their inferiorities and weaknesses, and they're told "oh it's okay it's a POSITIVE stereotype!" no, it's not. it's never okay, even if it "sounds nice" to someone looking in from the outside. the person who hears it, and bears it, can develop a serious and deep-seated complex over it, and that's why you see all kinds of crazy self-professed hapas. all they ever wanted to be called was human, like anyone else. but they got into their 20s and 30s and were still just treated like a punchline
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The White Dragon posted:i've always felt bad for
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The White Dragon posted:i've always felt bad for aznidentity and hapas type posters. even though you get a lot of mixed-asians out of hawaii, nobody feels the way that mixed-race asians who were raised in the continental united states do. it's a consequence of their broader societal upbringing, where they're constantly bombarded with propaganda about their inferiorities and weaknesses, and they're told "oh it's okay it's a POSITIVE stereotype!" i feel like r/hapas is created by white supremacist dad asian mom types which is impossible to not get turbocrazy out of tbh
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:I really want to call the Chinese government out on their absolute appalling hypocrisy here, but just for today I'll allow it. what was it? "tweet unavailable" for me.
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BrainDance posted:what was it? "tweet unavailable" for me. No google cache of the original tweet, but plenty of caches of tweets quoting that tweet. Image captured from that: 
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LanceHunter posted:No google cache of the original tweet, but plenty of caches of tweets quoting that tweet. Image captured from that: Yeah, this was it. It was a drat fine burn, so good that someone in China probably exceeded their authority in tweeting it.
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oohhboy posted:Trump's Anti-China thing is mixed at best, the first thing he did was tank TPP(It has issues) which was there to economically isolate China. I give him some credit for moving on China overtly but that is as far as I would go given he hosed everything else up with plenty of actions supporting China or snatching defeat from victory even with the easiest of choices. 100% he would take Chinese money if offered. If any credit is due it would be the Cabinet doing their jobs to bypass Trump and dialling down his stupid aka, "The Resistance", as well as House/Senate. Let's not let ourselves forget Trump's complete 180 on ZTE after the CCP agreed to give him a sweet hotel deal in Indonesia. ZTE was up to the same poo poo that Huawei's being accused of now and the US had them by the balls with a massive fine and sanctions. They were pretty much ready to close their doors until Trump came out with this mysterious tweet: https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/995680316458262533 Because, you know, if there's one thing Trump cares about it's protecting Chinese jobs, right? The guy was never anti-CCP out of principle, just anti-CCP as a short term strategy. He'd go full Xi Jinping thought in a second if he thought it would line his pockets or improve his chances of reelection. https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/5/15/17355202/trump-zte-indonesia-lido-city
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He has been dragging his feet the entire time with Huawei assuming he gave a poo poo which is never or was waiting on another payout. I will have to look it up but didn't he support Meng's release? ZTE was on the ropes, pretty close to collapse. Had the US used the same tools on Huawei it would be over already. I wouldn't be surprised if he was sandbagging the process. "Lets not forget" is a very, very long list for Trump.
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Whilst all that is being said re: Trump being anti-China may well be true. I think the answer is a lot simpler. China is an easy target for Trumps audience. It's foreign, non-white, and nominally "communist". So just point a giant racist finger at it and say "All your problems are because of the commo chinks. I am angry at them and doing bigly tough things against them" and he gets cheered. It's no more than that. Yes, the CCP is poopy and all that. But to Trump's lizard brain, it is as simple as hang poo poo on the foreigner/communist.
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The junk collector posted:Sure Trump is a reprehensible buffoon, but it's going to be hard to overnight erase the feelings built up over a track record that long. Biden has been relatively pro-China and anti-Taiwan since the 70's and his stance only changed a few months ago when the election showed how well being anti-China played. Trump is incompetent but he's still the first president I can think of that was willing to push an aggressively anti-China stance. It's not hard to see why anti-CCP Taiwanese establishments would prefer one to the other. Why was I instantly picturing in my head the SC2000 disaster where the microwave energy satellite misses its target and fries a whole city block
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oohhboy posted:Dick waving continues. You can't just crank up the frequency and magically get more speed. Literally first result yeah terahertz is garbage for longer range mobile communication right now and probably forever straight from the ieee https://spectrum.ieee.org/aerospace/military/the-truth-about-terahertz quote:Try to send anything farther than that and you hit what I call the “terahertz wall”: No matter how much you boost the signal, essentially nothing gets through. A 1-watt signal with a frequency of 1 THz, for instance, will dwindle to nothing after traveling just 1 km. Well, not quite nothing: It retains about 10-30 percent of its original strength. So even if you were to increase the signal’s power to the ridiculously high level of, say, a petawatt, and then somehow manage to propagate it without ionizing the atmosphere in the process, it would be reduced to mere femtowatts by the time it reached its destination. Needless to say, there are no terahertz sources capable of producing anything approaching a petawatt; the closest is a free-electron laser, which has an output in the low tens of megawatts and isn’t exactly a field-deployable device. (For comparison, the output power of today’s compact sources spans the 1-microwatt to 1-W range—more on that later.) And that’s under ordinary atmospheric conditions. Rain and fog will deteriorate the signal even more. Attenuation that extreme all but rules out using the terahertz region for long-range ground-based communication and radar. this is from 2012, but i'd be curious to see how much terahertz communications have changed in the past 8 years especially if they got around the physics problem of having to use 'antenna so powerful that's ionizing the surrounding atmosphere'
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coke posted:yeah terahertz is garbage for longer range mobile communication right now and probably forever Well there's a few things. The 6G working group such that it is is working on a new very high frequency band, the exact frequency of it not yet determined but at this point it's 80% likely that it's going to be 180 GHz (officially it could be anything between 95GHz and 3 THz). This is being called the sub-THz band, but once it runs through the Chinese PR machine it becomes shortened to "Terahertz". This is actually a pretty popular band for materials science research (closed chamber type stuff) so lots of electronics already exist to work in that specific band making research cheaper which is why it is being chosen. Lots of people have been working on this for a long time so there is no actual first here except that it's the first "6G" rather everyone else is calling their work, research in the sub-THz region because it's to early for the 6G committee to be able to formally ratify a dedicated band. There are a lot of universities and a few companies already doing proof of concept devices and you can buy an off the shelf THz sources (for a couple hundred thousand dollars) from a company like Keysight (American) or Rhode & Schwartz (German). The US does not allow export of high quality RF sources above 110GHz to China because of ITAR. The sub-THz band isn't really for terrestrial long haul. It's raison d'ętre is to make very small arrays with lots of elements. This lets you put 1000+ element arrays on satellites where you don't have much space for satellite to satellite communications and on the ground it lets you build antenna arrays directly on integrated circuits for close range communications and radar in very tight packages. This is one thing that they got right, the Chinese system is on a satellite with the purpose of letting people lease time on it.
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Devils Affricate posted:Let's not let ourselves forget Trump's complete 180 on ZTE after the CCP agreed to give him a sweet hotel deal in Indonesia. A year later and the developer is totally CYA, quote:U.S. President Donald Trump’s son and his Indonesian business partner said Tuesday that a theme park that also features a Trump hotel and condos will no longer have Chinese financing. https://www.marketwatch.com/story/indonesian-company-cancels-chinese-financing-for-trump-project-2019-08-13
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No sir, this is all 100% financed by the native entrepreneurs of the Cayman Islands
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whoops https://twitter.com/Jacob_T_Gunter/status/1326004768905465857
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Wow, this petition to End the CCP has over 200,000 signatures! https://endccp.com/ Everyone should sign this, don't forget to include your address and SSN!
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Apparently there's a peer reviewed journal called the Chinese Journal of Evidence-Based Medicine. This seems suspicious to me, like a product that has "great" or "best" in the name, and begs the question, is there a Chinese Journal of Non-Evidence-Based Medicine?
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AvesPKS posted:Apparently there's a peer reviewed journal called the Chinese Journal of Evidence-Based Medicine. This seems suspicious to me, like a product that has "great" or "best" in the name, and begs the question, is there a Chinese Journal of Non-Evidence-Based Medicine? yes the Journal of Traditional Chinese Medicine, duh
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AvesPKS posted:Apparently there's a peer reviewed journal called the Chinese Journal of Evidence-Based Medicine. This seems suspicious to me, like a product that has "great" or "best" in the name, and begs the question, is there a Chinese Journal of Non-Evidence-Based Medicine? https://biomedgrid.com/pdf/AJBSR.MS.ID.001256.pdf
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ElGroucho posted:Having fun imagining 1 billion Chinese people, all laughing at Trump simultaneously Reminder that the PRC is not an ally.
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Ya but normal Chinese people making memes about Trump being a fat loser are cool and good.
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Patrocclesiastes posted:Why is China meddling in European internal affairs Just China things
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ElGroucho posted:Having fun imagining 1 billion Chinese people, all laughing at Trump simultaneously 1/4 Of them were put into camps after for incorrect laughing.
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