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BobTheJanitor posted:Curling your fingers under and doing a win+L like that is kind of painful. I'd go with a flat palm for that, or more likely just use the win key on the other side of the keyboard. Why does Tony always have to make things as uncomfortable and awkward as possible -- never mind, I just answered my own question. It's how I do it.  And my name is "Tony". Uh-oh!
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Was about to ask why Annie doesn't just say "hey dad I'd like us to talk and open up more with each other" but then realized she's a teenager and probably doesn't really get the concept of communication like that yet
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T-man posted:is tony a goon, a redditor, or a channer? Tony's social media / forum experience: one niche barely-active tech-support forum for some specific software, where he posts way more than anyone else. Maybe also slashdot. Ditocoaf fucked around with this message at 20:37 on Nov 11, 2020 |
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CodfishCartographer posted:Was about to ask why Annie doesn't just say "hey dad I'd like us to talk and open up more with each other" but then realized she's a teenager and probably doesn't really get the concept of communication like that yet And she does take after him too. She might be better at being social but she still gets out of her depth easily.
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Nov 11, 2020 20:52
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as someone with a tony-like dad it wouldn't work
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I wish my dad had a cool bionic hand
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Ditocoaf posted:Tony's social media / forum experience: one niche barely-active tech-support forum for some specific software, where he posts way more than anyone else. Maybe also slashdot. I feel like Tony could get really litigious on obscure pages of Wikipedia
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T-man posted:as someone with a tony-like dad it wouldn't work
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Rohan Kishibe posted:I don't think I'd realised before this issue that Tony had the use of both of his hands. Kat grew him a new one, remember?
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Rohan Kishibe posted:I don't think I'd realised before this issue that Tony had the use of both of his hands. https://www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=2075
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The real character development at play here is that last time we saw Tony use a computer he had to left-hand the mouse edit: Oh yeah, something I found interesting from the treatise page just prior. On this page Annie's shirt resembles Ysengrin's coat...  ...but looking closer it seems those two lines have always been kind of a part of Forest Annie's ensemble!    Even still to this day! CJacobs fucked around with this message at 17:08 on Nov 12, 2020 |
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CJacobs posted:The real character development at play here is that last time we saw Tony use a computer he had to left-hand the mouse Having injured my right hand and having to do that myself, you do get used to it after a few weeks, but it still isn't as good as actually having your dominant hand.
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Warmachine posted:That's a novice bind, learned the first time a coworker fucks with your desktop when you go to the loo. Agreed, I'm just saying that doing it without looking is pretty pro.
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God Tony sucks. “I can’t be bothered to treat my child like a person because i’m sad.  Clearly my needs are the only ones that matter!”I know there’ll be some kind of sad sack rationale for the difference in how he treats each Annie coming up, but it’ll only make me madder. Time to grow up and buckle down for her/their sakes, Mister. 
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Nov 13, 2020 16:14
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Tony can only open up one and one. With Annie, Surma is also there.
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feetnotes posted:God Tony sucks. I think this is a bit reductionist my guy. The dude isn't sad, he's guilt ridden. He blames himself for Surma's death and why Annie grew up without a mother. He correctly blames himself for why she grew up without a father. He nearly killed her trying to get his wife's soul back because he couldn't understand what had actually happened. He know's he's a Bad Dad, and hates himself for it. He still loves her--he came back because the court was threatening to expel Annie if he didn't come reign her in (though to what degree that is the truth, and to what degree the court keep's Annie close as a leash on Tony is up to debate). Now you pile all this on a crippling anxiety disorder, shake it up, and serve it over ice and you've got one messed up example of a human psyche who cannot just "get over it." 
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Tony has always sucked, no matter how much people itt want it to be otherwise
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Gravitas Shortfall posted:Tony has always sucked, no matter how much people itt want it to be otherwise and people have always been lovely about mental health itt
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LMAO Tom's author note for today's page is incredible because I didn't realize Tony just ran out the door in socks. Check the previous page to compare.
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I don’t think it’s an unreasonable opinion given that Renard is saying the same thing in today’s comic and we have seen over and over how hard it is on Annie. He’s actively making her miserable every day of her life! No one said mental health problems don’t exist, chill. It would go a really long way if he could say “I know I suck at this, I’m sorry, I’m trying” like, even one time.
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dude cut off his arm to see his dead wife at the behest of demons. I'm not sure if he should be in charge of himself let alone 1-2 children.
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feetnotes posted:I don’t think it’s an unreasonable opinion given that Renard is saying the same thing in today’s comic and we have seen over and over how hard it is on Annie. He’s actively making her miserable every day of her life! Nah, the "get over it" refrain is a tired old trope with this. TBH I didn't start my post with the intent to get confrontational, but... this is kinda an issue near and dear to my heart. T-man posted:dude cut off his arm to see his dead wife at the behest of demons. I'm not sure if he should be in charge of himself let alone 1-2 children. T-man is right, as usual. The dude needs serious help, and he's not getting it. It's not an excuse for his behavior, but it is absolutely unhelpful to go "buck up and move on." Harmful, even, if real life suicide rates and correlations are anything to go on.
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feetnotes posted:It would go a really long way if he could say “I know I suck at this, I’m sorry, I’m trying” like, even one time. Well if he was capable of just simply setting his anxiety aside and being honest with her, then this wouldn't be a problem in the first place!
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The more he acts like this, the more he increases the pressure on himself that prevents him from acting otherwise.
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Ooookay, I was definitely not trying to increase the suicide rate or belittle anxiety disorders or anything like that. I was just trying to discuss my thoughts on this comic. I’m sorry I was insensitive and caused people pain.
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feetnotes posted:Ooookay, I was definitely not trying to increase the suicide rate or belittle anxiety disorders or anything like that. I was just trying to discuss my thoughts on this comic. I’m sorry I was insensitive and caused people pain. this is the almost the shittiest way to apologize, but at least you didn't say I'm sorry if you were offended or hurt
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Basically Annie's some conversations with her father are them begging themselves to be neurotypical for just five minutes internally while the other doing the same thing. For real though, I've softened on Tony a lot and I kind of appreciate how his issues are handled. The narrative neither condemns nor forgives him but instead focuses on the reality of the situation and how Annies are going to manage it. It speaks to me as someone who has a neurodivergent family.
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Saying Tony just needs to buck up might be wrong, but I think it's correct to criticize him for doing nothing to make things better. Maybe off screen he's getting therapy or going to Donny for help. But onscreen he's done absolutely nothing. His mental issues are not a moral failing, but not doing anything to stop them from hurting Annie absolutely is.
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I love Tony because he sucks butt, just the biggest butt sucker and I love that.
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Wittgen posted:Saying Tony just needs to buck up might be wrong, but I think it's correct to criticize him for doing nothing to make things better. Maybe off screen he's getting therapy or going to Donny for help. But onscreen he's done absolutely nothing. His mental issues are not a moral failing, but not doing anything to stop them from hurting Annie absolutely is. Right, and there's a lot of people complicit in this, from Donny not taking the bull by the horns, to the Court who are I'm sure more than content with him being this way if it keeps him hooked into working on the Omega Device. Also, we haven't actually been shown what goes on in Tony's head. The closest we had was the candid conversation with Donny, where we actually got a look at Tony and get to see that he knows he absolutely does not have a handle on any of this. It is entirely possible that he just straight up can't. He's already an anxiety riddled robot, now ask him to be vulnerable and have a human moment (which we've established he can't seem to figure out how to do) with Annie? You may as well ask him to fly. I doubt he'd object to someone saying, "Hey, you need to spend some time away from Annie and with someone who can help you" though. But no one is stepping up to the plate to give him that out. I know for sure Tony can't see it himself. In fact, the only way I see Tony actually getting better is if Donny or Kat intervene. F!Annie is too stunted herself to really leverage the fact that he is human with her to do it, and James is... James. Maybe Anja could too, but I don't think she's close enough to Tony?
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Wittgen posted:Saying Tony just needs to buck up might be wrong, but I think it's correct to criticize him for doing nothing to make things better. A thing to remember is that this? This *is* better. This *is* progress. This is him making more of an effort.
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Tony is pulling a SBEmail 99. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4-kP8Ps8ys&t=165s
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I'm not going to pretend I have had as much pressure on me in life as Tony, but I have definitely got something of what he's got going on. Multiple occasions in my life I've been in emotionally fraught situations where I just needed to say something, anything, and could not. Might as well have asked me to pick myself up by my hair. Saying I should have gotten over it and "just said the thing" is both true and counterproductive, which makes discussions on the subject frustrating for all involved. I think the comic does a fine job portraying this (the fingernails in his hand moment was very good), and the conversation with Donny was extremely cathartic for me, clarifying what's going on with him. Osmosisch fucked around with this message at 13:14 on Nov 16, 2020 |
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I as the reader am starting to get a little fatigued at Bad Father Tony
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Fecha posted:Are we gonna get another Zimmy scream on the next page? The scream pages get closer and closer together. Soon every other page is Zimmy screaming. Then every page. The comic continues for another five years to rave reviews.
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Macaluso posted:I as the reader am starting to get a little fatigued at Bad Father Tony
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