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Brawnfire posted:Come to think of it, have we seen doubled nacelles in Trek before? That's got some appeal 
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those aren't bound together tho and they spread further apart in operation I'm pretty sure.
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MariusLecter posted:those aren't bound together tho and they spread further apart in operation I'm pretty sure. They definitely do spread further apart lol 
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SavageGentleman posted:I mean come on, Saru and Michael received personal microtransporters in the first 2 episodes and noone is working on understanding or replicating them??? Go back in time and give an iPad to Benjamin Franklin. He was one of the greatest scientists of his era. Would he be able to reverse-engineer it and manufacture more iPads to hand out to the rest of the founding fathers?
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I don’t really like it for the Enterprise itself, but as an aspecific Starfleet ship design, sure I could see it. It’s no worse than the Ent-J, that’s for sure. On the other hand my SO saw it and said it looked like a 2014 Macbook
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Powered Descent posted:Go back in time and give an iPad to Benjamin Franklin. He was one of the greatest scientists of his era. Would he be able to reverse-engineer it and manufacture more iPads to hand out to the rest of the founding fathers? We are a lot closer to Benjamin Franklin then the show's current time is to when Discovery left also. MariusLecter fucked around with this message at 23:15 on Nov 11, 2020 |
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The Bloop posted:They definitely do spread further apart lol I *have* to figure there was a more visually creative way to render the attachment surfaces
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The Bloop posted:They definitely do spread further apart lol I love that the Saucer Section's singular warp nacelle is just unceremoniously slapped on the top of it as an afterthought and tiny to boot. They could've drawn from the Delta Flyer and stuck it in the sides of the Saucer at least.
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Neddy Seagoon posted:I love that the Saucer Section's singular warp nacelle is just unceremoniously slapped on the top of it as an afterthought and tiny to boot. They could've drawn from the Delta Flyer and stuck it in the sides of the Saucer at least. Holy poo poo... wow, I didn't even take that poo poo in. How goofy
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I think there's another equally diddy nacelle that pops out of the underside. Which is perhaps even more silly-looking. I know they wanted the big reveal of the ship splitting apart, but c'mon, the Defiant was already right there as an example of how to work warp nacelles into the main hull...
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Payndz posted:I think there's another equally diddy nacelle that pops out of the underside. Which is perhaps even more silly-looking. It's even dumber if you consider it's probably the most mass-dense section of the ship with it probably being almost entirely crammed with inhabited deck sections compared to the other two having some big open hangars, engineering, storage, etc. That thing is the warp equivalent of a bumblebee with nacelles that size.
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All this talk of splittable ships makes me curious if we'll see one in Disco that changes shape because they kept showing off programmable matter in the first couple of episodes this season.
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Neddy Seagoon posted:I love that the Saucer Section's singular warp nacelle is just unceremoniously slapped on the top of it as an afterthought and tiny to boot. They could've drawn from the Delta Flyer and stuck it in the sides of the Saucer at least. Brawnfire posted:Holy poo poo... wow, I didn't even take that poo poo in. How goofy Even better, you don't see it because there's no good underside angles of the saucer when its in MVAM when it shows up on screen but in the designs, there's a second equally dinky nacelle on the underside of the saucer that deploys from below:  
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Payndz posted:On a similar 'what if?' note, the cool-content-but-awkwardly-named Spaceshipsporn on Twitter had an alternate Enterprise design from a guy who did concept art for Star Wars, Blade Runner 2049, etc. It's different enough to produce an instinctive shock Not that it really matters now, but I wish they kind of did something like this for the JJTrek Enterprise-A rather than... uh, basically the same ship again.
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reaction before a closer look reveals that actually, it's pretty nifty and in a lot of ways a more effective modern take than the JJprise. (Except for the quad nacelles, which look like the tail lights of a '59 Cadillac.)
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Arglebargle III posted:https://twitter.com/PixelandPoly/status/1326247143506632704/photo/1 I'm not a fan of the big long pointy bits, but otherwise it's a really solid take on a Romulan Bird of Prey.
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In the Andromeda, but Green.
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Drink-Mix Man posted:Not that it really matters now, but I wish they kind of did something like this for the JJTrek Enterprise-A rather than... uh, basically the same ship again. Yeah, but original Trek's Enterprise-A was pretty much just like the same ship again, and JJTrek absolutely has to copy as many elements from original Trek as it possibly can, no matter how unoriginal or, let's face it, nonsensical it all is!!
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That Bird of Prey design looks a lot like the raiders from the 03 Battlestar reboot.
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Arquinsiel posted:In the Andromeda, but Green. Oh poo poo, you're absolutely right  .
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Constellation and Chyenne too, although they're more square than two pairs   STO had a period where they were really into double nacelles pairs for the big dreadnoughts, I wasn't a fan.   tarlibone posted:Yeah, but original Trek's Enterprise-A was pretty much just like the same ship again, and JJTrek absolutely has to copy as many elements from original Trek as it possibly can, no matter how unoriginal or, let's face it, nonsensical it all is!! Eh, they had some deliberate things, like they made the neck of the original JJPrise thinner to exaggerate the effect the swarm would have and then made the JJ-A thicker to imply that it was redesigned as a result. (The JJ-A is actually quite different looking to the JJPrise but we never see it properly so it's hard to notice. Best thing is that it doesn't have that horrible underbite where the neck joins engineering way too far back. And the pylons are straighter to imply strength, although they're weirdly triangular. Worst thing is the shuttlebay being a poopybutthole. And the hull looks kinda wierd shaped. I think the designer got a bit too much of a boner trying to make everything flow from one end to the other, so the neck and pylons and everything just taper all the way back to the end rather than stopping) 
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This fucker's also growing a second saucer section.
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Brawnfire posted:This fucker's also growing a second saucer section. Spore drive pizza oven saucer section 
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The Bloop posted:Spore drive pizza oven saucer section There she is, cap'n. The Presto Pizzazz, fresh out of the shipyards. She's truly a handsome vessel, isn't she?
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Brawnfire posted:This fucker's also growing a second saucer section. All normal, federation starships grow concentric saucers sections as they age. You can actually tell when a ship had a bad season in the past by looking at the thinner rings
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skasion posted:All normal, federation starships grow concentric saucers sections as they age. You can actually tell when a ship had a bad season in the past by looking at the thinner rings You want to carefully control growth so you can lop it off at the right time and attach it to a new hull, it's how they make ships now.
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It would be cool if ship design evolved to reflect that the warp core might spontaneously explode. Like the warp nacelles trailing behind a long rear end shaft.
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Or basically attached to a rail gun set to "get this thing hundreds of kilometers away now" at the first cough of an ensign
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now i have half a mind to calculate what the minimum safe distance would be
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enki42 posted:Paris feels like the only one that I'd call particularly "macho" though. Mayweather, Sulu, Data, and Wesley (and Kim? Is everyone who sits in the front a "pilot"?) were all competent and mostly confident, but I think you have to be at least a little brash for "macho" to apply.  Yeah, he was drunk on space nonsense at the time, but he had a few other moments when he got some characterization, mostly in his interactions with Chekov.
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Chef Boyardeez Nuts posted:It would be cool if ship design evolved to reflect that the warp core might spontaneously explode. You could put the warp core in a little separate pod! Maybe something like  (Although as lower decks showed us, having the warp nacelle smashed up as you warp is not going to end well either way) https://i.imgur.com/6ph2MwC.mp4 MikeJF fucked around with this message at 04:22 on Nov 12, 2020 |
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Rick Sternbach did the design for the prommie and considering the original brief, it's amazing it ended up as OK as it is! Initially faced with the design challenge of a ship which: split into 5 autonomous pieces looks starfleet but extremely advanced autonomous pieces must also look coherently good must make sense within existing rules; warp core, impulse engines etc. Imagine five!  Drone tech is one aspect of technological development where pre-CBS-AllAccess-era trek mostly missed the mark by a significant margin.
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Gelf posted:Rick Sternbach did the design for the prommie and considering the original brief, it's amazing it ended up as OK as it is! Initially faced with the design challenge of a ship which:  To be fair that was mostly illustrating parts that could be popped off, the engines and impulse engines were just meant to be able to be easily popped and replaced at starbases. They dropped the idea that the Saucer could drop off parts of itself for missions. Squares are just the escape pods.
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MikeJF posted:
I am choosing to interpret this literally, and now mourn for the episode that never was. Wherein Geordi and Data use these detachable nacelles as giant torpedos to save the day with!
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Gelf posted:I am choosing the interpret this literally, and now mourn for the episode that never was. Wherein Geordi and Data use these detachable nacelles as giant torpedos to save the day with! I mean one of the ideas that was never used on DS9 was that the nose of the defiant was where they kept all the torpedos and antimatter and if they were in a desperate situation they could just pop it off and ram it into the enemy, you can even see if you look closely it looks like it's meant to separate. It very much would've just ended up with the ship looking like  though
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MikeJF posted:I mean one of the ideas that was never used on DS9 was that the nose of the defiant was where they kept all the torpedos and antimatter and if they were in a desperate situation they could just pop it off and ram it into the enemy. These are great! I love going down the rabbit hole of un-used bad ideas and designs. Especially   ones.
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ok, last guess for federation headquarters before the episode: please be Qo'noS
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I want it to be Qo'noS but I think it's going to be Old Romulus. I guess I'll find out in like 28 hours when it gets on Netflix in Oz.
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The trailer made it look like it was hidden in some kind of nebula, so my guess is it’ll be neither of those.
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Crusader posted:ok, last guess for federation headquarters before the episode: please be Qo'noS Would be legit surprised if it's not Kronos or Vulcan just because of Burnham's response
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