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Continuity RCP posted:I'm confused as to how they managed to get over a billion pounds into debt. None of the articles about this go into any detail, they just mention a £50m hotel failure and the council having the terrible idea to build affordable houses I think it's the long term debt they have taken on to fund all their different venture. It could be, long term, they pay off but right now? hosed. Really pisses me off as it shits on a good idea, and sets back all those people who were given a taste of acceptable services. As another poster said, a lot of reporting is focusing on the council having the mad idea of doing something other than lining of pockets of the private sector. Page snipe: I like dogs: https://imgur.com/r/pics/j0Uiy0n notaspy fucked around with this message at 12:57 on Nov 12, 2020 |
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Reminds me of the Bank of Credit & Commerce International scandal of almost 30 years ago. I think a lot of councils lost a lot of money in that one. Also Church of England lost a lot (£1.2bn) with the 2008 collapse. People who do not understand 'loss' should really not be investing other people's money (eg taxpayers etc).
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Nov 12, 2020 12:53
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Comrade Fakename posted:Glenn would be too if he didn’t live there. glenn rightfully despises the democrats and takes every opportunity to poo poo on them and aslo realised trump is easily swayed and wants him to pardon Snowden. He is also extremely contrarian and a huge petty online bitch but i'm sure the gay man married to a socialist who runs a dog shelter than employs homeless people is actually a fascist
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Nov 12, 2020 12:55
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forkboy84 posted:New Goon project, UKMT 24 Hour Rolling News channel You mean it isn't already? It all goes a bit quiet from around 1am though. Most disappointing when I want a UKMT news fix around 2-3am. Does everyone else go to bed early or do you all disappear off to the Discord (I've given up on that, I just can't keep up with rolling words.)
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Jose posted:glenn rightfully despises the democrats and takes every opportunity to poo poo on them and aslo realised trump is easily swayed and wants him to pardon Snowden. He is also extremely contrarian and a huge petty online bitch Maybe he should take-up painting
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Nov 12, 2020 13:00
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I haven't been following what he said recently but he seemed like a decent guy on chapo. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69Kol0ZNyPU
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Nov 12, 2020 13:03
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Apologies for The Sun but... what? https://twitter.com/TheSun/status/1326830495330684929?s=20
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Nov 12, 2020 13:03
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peanut- posted:Apologies for The Sun but... what? Tim Wetherspoon donates a lot of money to the Conservative Party
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Nov 12, 2020 13:08
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peanut- posted:Apologies for The Sun but... what? It made him popular last time and now he's not popular again?
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Nov 12, 2020 13:17
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lol remember when it helped spread the virus more and killed a lot of people?
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Nov 12, 2020 13:18
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I'd say at some point you have to assume the government is actively trying to kill us, but maybe it's just specifically the treasury.
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Gonzo McFee posted:lol remember when it helped spread the virus more and killed a lot of people?
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Jose posted:but i'm sure the gay man married to a socialist who runs a dog shelter than employs homeless people is actually a fascist I actually am sure the gay man married to a socialist who runs a dog shelter than employs homeless people is actually a fascist because of all the fascist stuff he’s said and done. And despising the Democrats is no excuse for indulging fascism, and especially when it’s becoming increasingly clear that he just outright supports the fascism.
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Gonzo McFee posted:lol remember when it helped spread the virus more and killed a lot of people? It disproportionately kills pensioners, the poor, and Asians. Perfect Tory disease for cutting spending on health and social care with the added bonus of reducing the the number of non-whites. peanut- posted:I'd say at some point you have to assume the government is actively trying to kill us, but maybe it's just specifically the treasury. Also this.
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Nov 12, 2020 13:24
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Jose posted:
You've never heard of Ernst Röhm, then?
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Nov 12, 2020 13:26
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Jose posted:but i'm sure the gay man married to a socialist who runs a dog shelter than employs homeless people is actually a fascist I have to assume you're just being obtuse here, because it's a pretty clear distinction between "fascist" and "fascist apologist". I don't think anyone is disputing that he's motivated by contrarianism and not blood-and-soil ethno nationalism. That combination of contrarianism and stubbornness can easily lead to a buffer overflow where you end up with Chomsky and Cambodia. Or like, Christopher Hitchens' entire career (though to me he's a more sui generis dickhead). And the whole thing is turbocharged by the attention economy, survival-of-the-hottest-takes media landscape that the left gets penned into. But his takes, they're bad.
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Nov 12, 2020 13:27
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:Reminds me of the Bank of Credit & Commerce International scandal of almost 30 years ago. I think a lot of councils lost a lot of money in that one. also the recent icelandic bank collapse, although i think the u.k. government reimbursed most of the money instead, but i can imagine that did limit the chance for any further spending increases
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Nov 12, 2020 13:34
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Comrade Fakename posted:I actually am sure the gay man married to a socialist who runs a dog shelter than employs homeless people is actually a fascist because of all the fascist stuff he’s said and done. He has a lot of bad takes but what fascist stuff has he done then? Helped get Lula out of prison and shown out involved the us were in getting bolsonaro into power? That's very fascist imo
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Nov 12, 2020 13:48
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Of course some would argue that it already is. https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/nov/12/post-brexit-lorry-queues-could-make-kent-toilet-of-england quote:Kent could become the “toilet of England” in less than eight weeks unless dedicated loos are provided for thousands of lorry drivers who could be held up in the county for hours by post-Brexit border checks, campaigners have warned.
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keep punching joe posted:Of course some would argue that it already is. Lol they voted for it
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keep punching joe posted:Of course some would argue that it already is. Jacob Rees-Boggs?
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Jose posted:Lol they voted for it
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Nov 12, 2020 13:58
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Greenwald is multifaceted and has done good work and lovely work. With that said just because he’s queer doesn’t mean he can’t have terrible politics and that’s a really dumb take
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peanut- posted:Apologies for The Sun but... what? I get sick of seeing people post "number go up", but... number go up? Any number!
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Nov 12, 2020 14:07
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Continuity RCP posted:I'm confused as to how they managed to get over a billion pounds into debt. None of the articles about this go into any detail, they just mention a £50m hotel failure and the council having the terrible idea to build affordable houses the "terrible idea to build affordable houses" is an odd way of putting it. Brick by Brick have completed something like 3 homes in its existence. that money's been spunked up against the wall, and account for something like half of their budget shortfall. unless I'm mixing Croydon up with other councils, they've borrowed heavily from the Public Works Loan Board from the Treasury and immediately loaned that money on to their pet projects. it has been seen as an easy way to make up for cuts to council funding. council gets income from buying up office blocks, shopping centres, hotels, etc instead (usually not even properties in their own area). those loans have a very low interest rate, but by law are supposed to be used for investment not speculation. but Treasury seems to have turned a bit of a blind eye to that since Osbourne was chancellor. Croydon might be the first since Northamptonshire a few years ago but a lot of other councils are staring down the same barrel of unpayble debts for bad investments. covid's been the shock to push them over the edge, with the combination of massive drop in income from their investments at the same as having to additional costs and people alive.
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-54912100 NI folks? Is there any way forward for the executive? It seems incredibly apparent that the DUP are running out the clock with a view to leaving "lockdown" tomorrow by default. 4 weeks was never enough time and there are a large amount of people clean not doing their bit. I can only guess that if we all go back to normal we'll be looking at another lockdown mid december? Edit - https://twitter.com/AlexKane221b/status/1326874672504446976 Melissa McCarthyism fucked around with this message at 14:41 on Nov 12, 2020 |
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Red Oktober posted:Jacob Rees-Boggs? It's with this kind of entrepreneurial idea you must register a company and tender for a £100m government contract.
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Nov 12, 2020 14:28
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Lord of the Llamas posted:It's with this kind of entrepreneurial idea you must register a company and tender for a £100m government contract. Tender for a contract, what are you, a Communist?
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Melissa McCarthyism posted:https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-54912100 The DUP has recently said that Covid is mainly in catholic areas, I think this is still in the mindset with them wanting to open up everything atm. There still is a 'one upping' mentality on both sides, if they can get a dig in the other side they will do it. Even if it means it affects them too.
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Jose posted:He has a lot of bad takes but what fascist stuff has he done then? He’s used his position as a famous journalist to peddle Republican conspiracy theories, and in the video footage posted in this thread, to defend and even endorse racist policy.
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How sure are you that he was peddling a conspiracy theory? Have you read his/ the intercept editors rival version of events? Asking because I got bored halfway through
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Comrade Fakename posted:He’s used his position as a famous journalist to peddle Republican conspiracy theories, and in the video footage posted in this thread, to defend and even endorse racist policy. So did you actually watch the clip because he is clearing talking about it from the perspective of had it happened it would've made trump wildly popular and a shoe in for re-election His criticism of the hunter Biden stuff is why is the press not reporting on it because yeah it was likely hacked but it was still a ton of real stuff Guess it's no surprise this take coming from someone insisting the Labour party can be reformed though lol
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Infrastructure week was a meme the entire 4 years trump was president lol
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Melissa McCarthyism posted:https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-54912100 From what I've heard in chatter the CMOs briefing was enough to spook some of the MLAs in the DUP to worry that if they just let the regulations lapse entirely they would shoulder the entrity of the blame if tighter family gathering restrictions have to be brought in over Christmas, the Dodds proposal of "everything but the devil's buttermilk" being an attempt to find a mid way point between end the lockdown now and also we can't lose more votes to alliance poles in the party. As a border dweller lifting our restrictions before Ireland leaves level 4 is real loving stupid, especially considering the chat down south is that it's gonna be level 3 all December with pubs closed so we're gonna be swamped with people looking for a pint
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Nov 12, 2020 15:38
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Reminder that public bodies shouldn't be considered to be in debt, they should be considered to be underfunded. Public bodies being in debt just means they need more money.
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thespaceinvader posted:Reminder that public bodies shouldn't be considered to be in debt, they should be considered to be underfunded. same
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Nov 12, 2020 16:06
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https://twitter.com/Gammons4London/status/1326690221958815745 Oh come the gently caress on, we need new writers.
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(And/or in some cases, to actually be allowed to spend their money instead of giving it to private companies to spend)
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thespaceinvader posted:Reminder that public bodies shouldn't be considered to be in debt, they should be considered to be underfunded. Not strictly true if you are wazzing money up the walk speculating on the property market.
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You guys my like this, its a cool little visualization of contracts awarded by the government during Covid. https://sophieehill.shinyapps.io/my-little-crony/
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