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Peel
Dec 3, 2007

transphobic reaction has managed to take root in liberal circles in the UK in a way it hasn't in the US, maybe partly due to our extraordinarily closed and incestuous (and right-wing, the NYT is bad but our equivalent is literally owned by Murdoch) press subculture meaning people who would otherwise have drifted with the times instead dug heels in to defend their bigoted colleagues from criticism

plus, the corbyn era hypercharged the extent to which opposing the left is seen as a mark of good sense and personal decency among those whose careers and self-conception it threatened. trans rights are just in the bag with the rest of strong left views as a sign of being a repulsive commie freak that good liberals need to prove their bona fides by resisting. the british 'public sphere' is actually more narrow and reactionary than the american atm, imo

this is all within liberalism of course, but our left is inevitably influenced by where the general discourse is

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Emmideer
Oct 20, 2011

Lovely night, no?
Grimey Drawer
it's probably healthier to not use politics as a source of entertainment, yeah. it can create this weird sort of brain-malfunction where you think you're doing something productive by learning about john ossof

Peel
Dec 3, 2007

plus of course we have our fair share of 'left' 'organisations' that are three active members in their 70s and a mailing list, who are a little behind the times and have absolutely no incentive to catch up

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

I was at a protest this summer where the Black Hammer speaker kept saying COVID isn't real

A4R8
Feb 28, 2020

apropos to nothing posted:

voting did fix it sweety, biden won

The trot is now boasting about competent fascism, go figure. Sore loser Trotsky himself was known for this poo poo too. Read Grover furr


apropos to nothing posted:

one time had a phone convo with a dude who wanted to join who was already a member (at least he claimed to be a member) of dsa, cpusa, spusa, and prolly some others too. the whole time he kept wanting to talk about maoism vs marxism leninism vs trotskyism and especially wanting to talk about and hype this fringe group called black hammer who he was really interested in who some may know them from when they called anne frank a becky. through it all he was taking hits off a bong very loudly. i did not call him back but i do think about him a lot when reading twitter and sometimes cspam

You are such a terminally online shithead to the point where you spend half your time on this site smugly bitching about a political shitposting forum as if its some sort of “organizing” outlet when it never was. You remind me of the liberals/leftists like lynch_69 and Panzeh (Hitler Ave guy) wandering into the Greenwald thread every other day bitching about how Greenwald is not a communist/leftist when the thread was never about him being a communist or a leftist

But it is funny how cspam apparently lives rent free in your head all the time in the marxist tradition!

Emmideer
Oct 20, 2011

Lovely night, no?
Grimey Drawer

A4R8 posted:

The trot is now boasting about competent fascism, go figure. Sore loser Trotsky himself was known for this poo poo too. Read Grover furr


You are such a terminally online shithead to the point where you spend half your time on this site smugly bitching about a political shitposting forum as if its some sort of “organizing” outlet when it never was. You remind me of the liberals/leftists like lynch_69 and Panzeh (Hitler Ave guy) wandering into the Greenwald thread every other day bitching about how Greenwald is not a communist/leftist when the thread was never about him being a communist or a leftist

You having an alright day, bud?

studio mujahideen
May 3, 2005

its really convenient how a bunch of posters who didnt do any political work had this great awakening into realizing that the only moral action is to keep not doing anything, but be self righteous about it lmao

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES
Lotta hostility in here today...time to take a "chill pill"

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?

GalacticAcid posted:

Lotta hostility in here today...time to take a "chill pill"

I’ll get fired if I do that :ohdear:

PERPETUAL IDIOT
Sep 12, 2003

Varinn posted:

its really convenient how a bunch of posters who didnt do any political work had this great awakening into realizing that the only moral action is to keep not doing anything, but be self righteous about it lmao

I'll have you know that some of my recent tweets - to be fair, replies to much larger accounts than my own - have received ten or more "faves".

jarofpiss
May 16, 2009

i have to salute any poster that feels personally called out by a vague mention of people that “post insanely”

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


jarofpiss
May 16, 2009

Atrocious Joe posted:

I was at a protest this summer where the Black Hammer speaker kept saying COVID isn't real

tell me more about this org

Goast
Jul 23, 2011

by VideoGames

A4R8 posted:

The trot is now boasting about competent fascism, go figure. Sore loser Trotsky himself was known for this poo poo too. Read Grover furr


You are such a terminally online shithead to the point where you spend half your time on this site smugly bitching about a political shitposting forum as if its some sort of “organizing” outlet when it never was. You remind me of the liberals/leftists like lynch_69 and Panzeh (Hitler Ave guy) wandering into the Greenwald thread every other day bitching about how Greenwald is not a communist/leftist when the thread was never about him being a communist or a leftist

But it is funny how cspam apparently lives rent free in your head all the time in the marxist tradition!

i hope you are able to defeat your posting enemies good luck buddy

apropos to nothing
Sep 5, 2003

jarofpiss posted:

tell me more about this org

their plan is to build a city in florida that is only for black people called hammer city.

apropos to nothing
Sep 5, 2003

A4R8 posted:

The trot is now boasting about competent fascism, go figure. Sore loser Trotsky himself was known for this poo poo too. Read Grover furr


You are such a terminally online shithead to the point where you spend half your time on this site smugly bitching about a political shitposting forum as if its some sort of “organizing” outlet when it never was. You remind me of the liberals/leftists like lynch_69 and Panzeh (Hitler Ave guy) wandering into the Greenwald thread every other day bitching about how Greenwald is not a communist/leftist when the thread was never about him being a communist or a leftist

But it is funny how cspam apparently lives rent free in your head all the time in the marxist tradition!

my sincere wish is for you to get whatever help is required to fix whatever problem it is that you have. namaste.

jarofpiss
May 16, 2009

apropos to nothing posted:

their plan is to build a city in florida that is only for black people called hammer city.

tbh if you can convey your political platform with one sentence and the name of your org it’s a winner

apropos to nothing
Sep 5, 2003
think i posted this earlier in the thread somewhere but here it is again and also lol
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1P0jXrvOJabx2dSu1mE17UzgcaTMMCOMGiaddA4VrDnA/edit#heading=h.gjdgxs

jarofpiss
May 16, 2009

apropos to nothing posted:

think i posted this earlier in the thread somewhere but here it is again and also lol
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1P0jXrvOJabx2dSu1mE17UzgcaTMMCOMGiaddA4VrDnA/edit#heading=h.gjdgxs

lmao

Emmideer
Oct 20, 2011

Lovely night, no?
Grimey Drawer

apropos to nothing posted:

think i posted this earlier in the thread somewhere but here it is again and also lol
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1P0jXrvOJabx2dSu1mE17UzgcaTMMCOMGiaddA4VrDnA/edit#heading=h.gjdgxs

I uh don't understand how any of these activities are supposed to lead to any outcome other than incredibly petty drama

apropos to nothing
Sep 5, 2003

Jon Joe posted:

I uh don't understand how any of these activities are supposed to lead to any outcome other than incredibly petty drama

congratulations, it seems you do understand

T-man
Aug 22, 2010


Talk shit, get bzzzt.

a master plan to become the twitter main character of the day, but leftly


e:poo poo this isnt my secret cspam antimodaktion discord plz don't steal our stolen idea

Trash Ops
Jun 19, 2012

im having fun, isnt everyone else?

joe biden understands the immortal science of dialectical materialism more than any other living person, uphold biden thought

jarofpiss
May 16, 2009

Trash Ops posted:

joe biden understands the immortal science of dialectical materialism more than any other living person, uphold biden thought

is this where the two hemispheres of your brain don’t communicate?

apropos to nothing
Sep 5, 2003

Trash Ops posted:

joe biden understands the immortal science of dialectical materialism more than any other living person, uphold biden thought

Ferrinus
Jun 19, 2003

i'm finding this quite easy, i guess in part because i'm a fast type but also because i have a coherent mental model of the world

apropos to nothing posted:

yeah it’s really loving weird to me how transphobic the a lot of the left in the uk are. I’ve talked to comrades over there about it but still don’t quite understand why it’s so prevalent there specifically

race science but specifically and exclusively about the degeneracies of the anglo

Ferrinus fucked around with this message at 22:54 on Nov 12, 2020

Trash Ops
Jun 19, 2012

im having fun, isnt everyone else?

cornpop = kautsky

T-man
Aug 22, 2010


Talk shit, get bzzzt.

kamala harris is a trot

apropos to nothing
Sep 5, 2003

T-man posted:

kamala harris is a trot

absolutely, its why i voted for her :cheers:

swimsuit
Jan 22, 2009

yeah

A4R8 posted:

The trot is now boasting about competent fascism, go figure. Sore loser Trotsky himself was known for this poo poo too. Read Grover furr


You are such a terminally online shithead to the point where you spend half your time on this site smugly bitching about a political shitposting forum as if its some sort of “organizing” outlet when it never was. You remind me of the liberals/leftists like lynch_69 and Panzeh (Hitler Ave guy) wandering into the Greenwald thread every other day bitching about how Greenwald is not a communist/leftist when the thread was never about him being a communist or a leftist

But it is funny how cspam apparently lives rent free in your head all the time in the marxist tradition!

*nodding and smiling*

ah yes

swimsuit
Jan 22, 2009

yeah
what posting trmup does to a mf

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

apropos to nothing posted:

one time had a phone convo with a dude who wanted to join who was already a member (at least he claimed to be a member) of dsa, cpusa, spusa, and prolly some others too. the whole time he kept wanting to talk about maoism vs marxism leninism vs trotskyism and especially wanting to talk about and hype this fringe group called black hammer who he was really interested in who some may know them from when they called anne frank a becky. through it all he was taking hits off a bong very loudly. i did not call him back but i do think about him a lot when reading twitter and sometimes cspam

Longmont Socialist Front

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

jarofpiss posted:

i have to salute any poster that feels personally called out by a vague mention of people that “post insanely”

I felt attacked by that statement and then I remembered that 90% of my posts are that way on purpose

punk rebel ecks
Dec 11, 2010

A shitty post? This calls for a dance of deduction.
I recall hearing that there was some beef between the DSA and John Fetterman? Can anyone elaborate on this please?

Algund Eenboom
May 4, 2014

Absolutely not

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?

apropos to nothing posted:

their plan is to build a city in florida that is only for black people called hammer city.

how, and to what end

punk rebel ecks posted:

I recall hearing that there was some beef between the DSA and John Fetterman? Can anyone elaborate on this please?

from what I’ve read On The Internet, he showed up to a meeting in Pittsburgh and asked for an endorsement and when they asked what he’d done to earn an endorsement he was like “just endorse me wtf”

jarofpiss
May 16, 2009

apropos to nothing posted:

their plan is to build a city in florida that is only for black people called hammer city.

i'm still laughing at the way this is framed and ends with "hammer city"

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


fetterman also endorsed some weird centrist family machine democrat dynasty that the DSA was running against in other races iirc

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
i went to a candidate forum for DSA in like uhh 2018? in Sacramento and I dont really remember much about it but one of the guys running for I think state assembly or city council or something was this weird anti vaxxer guy, like he thought that was the #1 issue for not only us but all Californians and I remember quoting him out ot context for like a year afterward and always getting laughs. So big shout out to that guy

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GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES
sj-y is correct. fetterman endorsed the incumbent state rep Paul Costa who was being challenged by Pittsburgh DSA-backed summer lee. Essentially as a result of this they weren’t big fans of his.

there was a town hall where some dsa member used that endorsement to say that fetterman was weak on abortion rights which doesn’t really hold up under scrutiny

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