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GWBBQ posted:Despite the moral panic about rap music, it's less violent than pop or country. https://www.researchgate.net/public..._from_2006-2016 "Goodbye Earl" has meant that no man has been safe with his beans again.
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quote:The first example is from the song titled, “How We Do,” from the album The Documentary (2005), by The Game:  What about the song "Tick Tock," by the artist Kes$ha: Don't stop, make it pop DJ, blow my speakers up Tonight, I'ma fight 'Til we see the sunlight Wasabi the J has a new favorite as of 06:48 on Nov 8, 2020 |
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My favourite Jack Thompson moment was when some gamergate person recruited him into participating in their propaganda vids and spun it as "see the sjws are so bad that this guy is actually extremely good in comparison"
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Wasabi the J posted:
Yeah, I didn't read the whole paper but the little bits I skimmed seemed really....stupid.
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It's far from perfect, but far and above the most intellectually honest and least racist look at the subject I've seen by virtue of applying the same standard across the board.Arsenic Lupin posted:"Goodbye Earl" has meant that no man has been safe with his beans again.
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Pretty good posted:My favourite Jack Thompson moment was when some gamergate person recruited him into participating in their propaganda vids and spun it as "see the sjws are so bad that this guy is actually extremely good in comparison" This is something I don't get because as I understand it, Thompson supports Trump and Trump blames shootings on video games. By and large Jack would have more ideological pull on the guy in charge even if they two never met, but somehow it's the liberals that want to take your games away.
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I seem to have a vague recollection of him submitting a Doom WAD someone made that put him in game as some sort of defamation.
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The Golden Gael posted:This is something I don't get because as I understand it, Thompson supports Trump and Trump blames shootings on video games. By and large Jack would have more ideological pull on the guy in charge even if they two never met, but somehow it's the liberals that want to take your games away. Nobody remembers Trump said that, least of all Trump.
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Proteus Jones posted:I seem to have a vague recollection of him submitting a Doom WAD someone made that put him in game as some sort of defamation. There was a San Andreas mod that was literally called Defamation of Character: A Jack Thompson Murder Simulator. As I recall, Jack was not amused when he found out about it.
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A Biographical webcomic about the Elan school. One of those https://elan.school/chapter-1-5/ Edit: Content warning for severe humiliation, mental/physical abuse of teenagers. Sarcopenia has a new favorite as of 06:56 on Nov 13, 2020 |
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Sarcopenia posted:A Biographical webcomic about the Elan school. One of those Well I read all that's available so far and holy poo poo it's terrible. Those poor kids.
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There was a whole GBS thread about Elan a while back. David Sedaris's sister Tiffany was sent there and it destroyed her. She ended up committing suicide and her will barred her family from coming to her funeral or collecting her ashes.
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HelloIAmYourHeart posted:There was a whole GBS thread about Elan a while back. David Sedaris's sister Tiffany was sent there and it destroyed her. She ended up committing suicide and her will barred her family from coming to her funeral or collecting her ashes. Luckily I think that Paris Hilton and Kat Von D speaking out about their personal experiences at a similar kind of hell hole will hopefully lead to a push for some heavy regulations and shutdowns.
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Sarcopenia posted:A Biographical webcomic about the Elan school. One of those i sat and read this all the way to the most recent one. horrifying edit: should mention if you’ve had any abuse and trauma, tread lightly with this one. unpleasant things floating up again nishi koichi has a new favorite as of 04:41 on Nov 13, 2020 |
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I made it to 30-40 months and tapped out. God I’m so thankful my parents are kind and reasonable people.
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nishi koichi posted:edit: should mention if you’ve had any abuse and trauma, tread lightly with this one. unpleasant things floating up again
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nishi koichi posted:edit: should mention if you’ve had any abuse and trauma, tread lightly with this one. unpleasant things floating up again yeah jesus christ no loving joke that really did a number on me 
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Comrade Koba posted:yeah jesus christ no loving joke that really did a number on me 
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I nearly got sent to a wilderness programme/reform school/similar thing when I was 16 and the only reason I didn't was because my mother procrastinated long enough for my school to say that they'd let me come back, which, to her, meant that the problem was solved. (The problem was that I had tried to kill myself.) Ever since learning about the troubled teens industry and reading a few firsthand accounts in my early twenties, I've been aware that I dodged a huge bullet. After spending the past couple hours binge reading that comic... gently caress, dude, this is way beyond anything that I've seen. "Elan School" is a name I've encountered before and I'm sure I already had a vague idea that it was a particularly bad example but nothing could have prepared me. State complicity in these operations is enough of a tragedy, but I am kinda quietly melting down at the fact that there are parents who willingly seek them out, still, well over a decade past the internet having become a ubiquitous feature of all of our lives. I'm sure none of the options my mother was considering for me were quite like this. I'm also sure that they were all still exquisite little hells hiding behind the most respectable branding they could come up with, banking on both the justice system pipeline and parents with enough of a dearth of critical thought to get sucked in. And I want to tell myself that there's no way that any of my possible pasts could ever in a million years have led to an experience like what the author went through, but I am going to go take a very long very hot shower
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I have a guilty pleasure in binging dr phil clips on YouTube, and it seems like even his show, which has funneled so many kids into 'the ranch', has had to cover how bad 'ranches' can get. (of course, he still sends kids to 'a good one' which is bs) I hope that man is haunted by what he's perpetuated. For the ranch thing and in general
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Christ I thought it had ended, but it’s ongoing. Jesus. The comic to be clear, I’m too shaken to look into this stuff further atm. This is a hell country with hell people on a hell world and capitalism is a disease.
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Kitfox88 posted:I’m too shaken to look into this stuff further atm. This is a hell country with hell people on a hell world and capitalism is a disease. Don't. There's always more and it's always worse. And it's not limited to the US, either.
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Killingyouguy! posted:I have a guilty pleasure in binging dr phil clips on YouTube, and it seems like even his show, which has funneled so many kids into 'the ranch', has had to cover how bad 'ranches' can get. (of course, he still sends kids to 'a good one' which is bs) I hope that man is haunted by what he's perpetuated. For the ranch thing and in general Edit: A parent sued the school for abusing her daughter. https://www.courthousenews.com/torture-alleged-at-utah-treatment-center/ Sarcopenia has a new favorite as of 16:08 on Nov 14, 2020 |
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Pilot partly fell out of a faulty airplane window but somehow managed to survive until the plane landed. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Airways_Flight_5390
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Sarcopenia posted:Pilot partly fell out of a faulty airplane window but somehow managed to survive until the plane landed. Thanks for this. I simultaneously like and get freaked out by airplane mishaps. Especially if they come with black box recordings.
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There was a My Favorite Murder about the Elan School a few months back, if you all want to get deeper into it. Ep. 241. It's gnarly though, so be warned.
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Pondex posted:There was a My Favorite Murder about the Elan School a few months back, if you all want to get deeper into it. Ep. 241. It's gnarly though, so be warned.
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Sarcopenia posted:Urgh, bummer I can't stand MFM but would love to listen to a podcast that digs into Elan. yeah for real, they're insufferable. There was an episode of True Anon where Brace talks about his experience being sent to one, it's hard to listen to. https://soundcloud.com/trueanonpod/brat-camp
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My sister in law was sent to a ranch in Utah by her fundamentalist Mormon parents when she was 15. They were driving home after a normal school day in Denver, stopped for a burger, explained they had a bag packed for her, and they were going to a camp. She asked how long they'd be staying and they replied "well, we're not sure how long you'll be staying, but we're dropping you off". She was stuck until she was 18. She's told me a bit, but she's largely programmed now. The camp was extremely effective in brainwashing her. There were times where they weren't allowed more than six feet from a "counselor", got watched during showers, all kinds of heinous poo poo. She's back in the fold, now. It is extremely heinous. Edit: my wife is not a Mormon. She speaks to her parents only occasionally. I have not spoken to them ever since they sent her to the camp and plan on keeping that streak.
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HelloIAmYourHeart posted:How old is your sister in law now? I think she's 23 now.
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sephiRoth IRA posted:My sister in law was sent to a ranch in Utah by her fundamentalist Mormon parents when she was 15. They were driving home after a normal school day in Denver, stopped for a burger, explained they had a bag packed for her, and they were going to a camp. She asked how long they'd be staying and they replied "well, we're not sure how long you'll be staying, but we're dropping you off". I’m so sorry
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I may have once brought up The Seed on here, who I've covered in an older video. Basically, the Cliff's Notes on it are that it was a teen rehab program in the 1970s started by a guy named Art Barker. Art was friends with Jackie Gleeson who was a patron of this place. What we know about it basically comes from an old news report from the early 80s and the anecdotes of former members, which are rarely positive. They did "attack therapy" where groups of kids would yell at one who was guilty of a misdemeanor within the group, like talking to people who weren't Seedlings. A few local judges and politicians either turned a blind eye to or actively sent teen delinquents to this hellhole. I think Art's adopted daughter runs an animal charity or something now, which he gave a pile of money to shortly before he died.
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My wife's niece started getting into trouble as a teenager. Partying a lot, stole my mother-in-law's truck and crashed it in a cornfield, getting into physical brawls, etc. The in-laws decided it would be a good idea to ship her off to one of those places. I'd read a couple articles about them and tried to convince everyone it was a very bad idea. They didn't listen and shipped her off to The Academy at Ivy Ridge in upstate NY. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Academy_at_Ivy_Ridge She was only there for about a year, but she's 31 and is just now starting to talk about it a little.
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See, this is why they should lower the recruitment age for the military and allow parents to sign up their kids. Tossing angry teenagers at problems is a time honored tradition in the military and this way they'll at least get paid for all the abuses they get put through.
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