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OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Ms Adequate posted:

I live in Leicester

The hell I thought you lived in belfast.

Where did I get that from?

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Ms Adequate
Oct 30, 2011

Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling



OwlFancier posted:

The hell I thought you lived in belfast.

Where did I get that from?

I mean I'm from Norn Iron and I've been back a good bit, so it's not completely out of left field, but I've lived in Lex most of my life and haven't hidden that information from the thread lol

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Ok my brain is just poo poo then fair enough.

Also maybe leicester is better than boro WHO CAN SAY I have never been.

E: Actually that got me thinking and I realised I have only ever been to edinburgh, newcastle (once) leeds (once) york (twice) and berwick (involuntarily) and nowhere else of note.

OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 03:15 on Nov 14, 2020

Active Quasar
Feb 22, 2011
Now that the NEC election is over. Is there any reason to stay in the party? My wife explicitly asked me to leave today because of the whole "racism is now fine if it's the right marginalised group" shebang.

Beefeater1980
Sep 12, 2008

My God, it's full of Horatios!






What’s Leicester like? There’s a non zero chance I’ll be back in the UK and in the midlands next year for some work stuff and I’ve never lived anywhere in the UK other than London. Are there commuter towns around it / Nottingham or are people all drawn into jobs in Birmingham etc?

Mebh
May 10, 2010


Disnesquick posted:

Now that the NEC election is over. Is there any reason to stay in the party? My wife explicitly asked me to leave today because of the whole "racism is now fine if it's the right marginalised group" shebang.

None at all that I can see. gently caress em.

I'm probably going to stay in momentum though if I can for now. If there becomes a compelling reason down the line to rejoin I will.

Mebh fucked around with this message at 03:36 on Nov 14, 2020

Ms Adequate
Oct 30, 2011

Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling



Beefeater1980 posted:

What’s Leicester like? There’s a non zero chance I’ll be back in the UK and in the midlands next year for some work stuff and I’ve never lived anywhere in the UK other than London. Are there commuter towns around it / Nottingham or are people all drawn into jobs in Birmingham etc?

Leicester is not too bad, it's big enough to have its own centre of gravity for jobs and stuff, and it has commuter towns and bedroom communities in every direction. I'm sure some jobs go to Brum instead but I don't think it's a big problem, though the city centre is hit with the same kind of economic problems that many other places are.

We do benefit from having a couple of big unis keeping things lively, plus the fact that white people are only like 50% of the population now and the city has been a destination for different immigrant groups for ages makes things extremely diverse, we've got a banging Caribbean festival, Diwali here is like the biggest celebration outside India, and if you have a religion we've probably got a house of worship, whether that's Judaism or Mormonism or Jainism.

therattle
Jul 24, 2007
Soiled Meat

mediaphage posted:

i disagree, he knew what he was doing in that he cared about protecting his wealth when he could still use it. now that he's on his way out he wants more legacy material

Yes. He totally knew and is being disingenuous. He’s a disgusting man who is now realising just how many people recognise that. I don’t use the word evil often but he is evil.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Ms Adequate posted:

Leicester is not too bad, it's big enough to have its own centre of gravity for jobs and stuff
This has just reminded me that I've not properly been since like March.

Sloth Life
Nov 15, 2014

Built for comfort and speed!
Fallen Rib
Leicester is a dive. Ditto Coventry

Beefeater1980
Sep 12, 2008

My God, it's full of Horatios!






Ms Adequate posted:

Leicester is not too bad, it's big enough to have its own centre of gravity for jobs and stuff, and it has commuter towns and bedroom communities in every direction. I'm sure some jobs go to Brum instead but I don't think it's a big problem, though the city centre is hit with the same kind of economic problems that many other places are.

We do benefit from having a couple of big unis keeping things lively, plus the fact that white people are only like 50% of the population now and the city has been a destination for different immigrant groups for ages makes things extremely diverse, we've got a banging Caribbean festival, Diwali here is like the biggest celebration outside India, and if you have a religion we've probably got a house of worship, whether that's Judaism or Mormonism or Jainism.

Thanks! I read on Wikipedia that the diverse population is partly due to the council taking out racist adverts in the 70s asking the wave of Asian refugees from Uganda to stay away that then backfired by making the city front of mind for lots of said refugeses, which is amazing if it’s true.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

Ms Adequate posted:

Leicester is not too bad, it's big enough to have its own centre of gravity for jobs and stuff, and it has commuter towns and bedroom communities in every direction. I'm sure some jobs go to Brum instead but I don't think it's a big problem, though the city centre is hit with the same kind of economic problems that many other places are.

We do benefit from having a couple of big unis keeping things lively, plus the fact that white people are only like 50% of the population now and the city has been a destination for different immigrant groups for ages makes things extremely diverse, we've got a banging Caribbean festival, Diwali here is like the biggest celebration outside India, and if you have a religion we've probably got a house of worship, whether that's Judaism or Mormonism or Jainism.

Counterpoint:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfQDdD41Suw

vodkat
Jun 30, 2012



cannot legally be sold as vodka

Mebh posted:

I like Ronya =( even if I need a dictionary for their posts sometimes

Ronya is the best poster in this thread. Fight me :colbert:

vodkat
Jun 30, 2012



cannot legally be sold as vodka
j/k it’s goddamntwisto

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

vodkat posted:

Ronya is the best poster in this thread. Fight me :colbert:

Which carpark?

BalloonFish
Jun 30, 2013



Fun Shoe
Never lived in Leicester, but I've been doing some agency delivery van driving recently and one of the routes includes it. The most striking thing passing through and around it is that I've never seen a city which such an air of faded glories - it seems full of lovely red brick and polychromatic Victorian buildings, most of which seem to be on the verge of collapse. The outskirts are all 19th century factories and warehouses, half of which are empty and the rest are now CrossFit gyms, carpet stores, car supermarkets and vape shops and what look worryingly like old-fashioned sweatshops. There's a big supermarket (Tesco?) in the middle of town and right next to it is the empty shell of a big Victorian factory. There's a disused railway viaduct that runs right across the middle of town.

I'm sure that driving mostly on the through-routes and ring roads doesn't show the place off at its best but it's the impression it gives. I'm sure I read once that in the 50s during the textile boom Leicester had the highest economic output per capita of any city in Europe. Seems those days are long gone, unfortunately.

Northampton is similar - the entire eastern half of the town seems to be a dense grid of two-up-two-down terrace houses, and each block has a derelict shoe factory, a boarded-up corner shop and a Methodist chapel in a repeating pattern of traditional industrial decline.

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

The slightest touch from a Gol-Shogeg will result in Instant Death!

Mebh posted:

None at all that I can see. gently caress em.

I'm probably going to stay in momentum though if I can for now. If there becomes a compelling reason down the line to rejoin I will.

They shouldn't let you stay since they're supposed to be purely for Labour members but based on my experience they won't remove you from their mailing list when asked.

crispix
Mar 28, 2015

Grand-Maman m'a raconté
(Les éditions des amitiés franco-québécoises)

Hello, dear
Let's have a goon rasslin tournament and rassle each other

in just pants ;-*

ContinuityNewTimes
Dec 30, 2010

Я выдуман напрочь
Goon Turkish oil wrestling league

CGI Stardust
Nov 7, 2010


Brexit is but a door,
election time is but a window.

I'll be back
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2020/11/13/dominiccummings-exits-number-10-parting-shot-boris-johnson/

quote:

After Mr Cummings resigned on Thursday evening, allies had complained of "dithering" by Mr Johnson, saying they had to go round him to Mr Gove to get decisions made.

They are also known to have spread rumours that Mr Johnson had lost his powers of concentration after being hospitalised with coronavirus earlier in the year, and that Ms Symonds "bombards" him with texts setting out her opinions on policy up to 25 times per hour.

Sources said Mr Johnson was particularly riled by newspaper reports of Ms Symonds being referred to by nicknames including "Princess nut nuts" by Cummings loyalists.

Sources loyal to the Prime Minister accused Mr Cummings of "trying to blame everyone but himself" for his demise, saying his complaints of dithering by Mr Johnson were simply "the occasions when the PM won't do what he wants him to".
my brain is melting. i hope that when it has finished melting, the world looks good again

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
The Cummings blog post should be fun at least

josh04
Oct 19, 2008


"THE FLASH IS THE REASON
TO RACE TO THE THEATRES"

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Why would anyone think that the prime minister's allies were briefing against his fiancee.

josh04 fucked around with this message at 13:54 on Nov 14, 2020

Surprise T Rex
Apr 9, 2008

Dinosaur Gum
SO's family have decided that they're getting grandma to babysit and going to their bosses house for a drink later because it's been a hard week. :(

Honestly, I don't know what you can even do at this point, lockdown is loving useless when everyone has a "yeah but this is different" justification for how THEIR socialising is okay.

jabby
Oct 27, 2010

Beefeater1980 posted:

Oh sure I mean bury him under a rock as far as I’m concerned, he’s a massive piece of poo poo. It’s just...this man did so much damage with his life and he didn’t even realise because he was paying attention to something else, that’s the human condition in a nutshell.

This might be the case if he weren't still doing it but the dude donated huge sums to Republican Super PACs to benefit Trump. This is just him trying to rehabilitate the image of him and his family now he's facing his own mortality.

Beefeater1980 posted:

What’s Leicester like? There’s a non zero chance I’ll be back in the UK and in the midlands next year for some work stuff and I’ve never lived anywhere in the UK other than London. Are there commuter towns around it / Nottingham or are people all drawn into jobs in Birmingham etc?

I like Leicester. It's extremely multicultural and for the most part everybody gets along. There's an amazing variety of food from all around the world, and enough of a town centre that you can actually go shopping/hang out there. The Highcross centre is always busy or you can wander the backstreets to find interesting stuff. And it's centrally located enough that you can get to lots of other bigger cities (or smaller towns, or countryside) very quickly if you want to.

If you're into clubbing the nightlife is... not good. But you're close enough to Nottingham that you can pop down there. And Leicester manages to have two universities which keeps enough young people around without being totally overrun with students (like Nottingham).

The biggest downside of Leicester is that it's been declining for a long time. Lots of homeless people, more and more empty shops, people generally becoming more dejected and poor. Also it has a whole modern sweat-shop thing going on. But I like it, it's a good place to live.

Jippa
Feb 13, 2009
I went to the midlands once and all I remember was lots of traffic lights and power stations.

vaguely
Apr 29, 2013

hot_squirting_honey.gif

all the ways Cummings has fully hosed up this country and what gets him fired is secondary school gossip girlfriend drama, complete with dipshit mates passing notes
loving astounding the immaturity of our entire idiot ruling class

Pistol_Pete
Sep 15, 2007

Oven Wrangler

BalloonFish posted:

Never lived in Leicester, but I've been doing some agency delivery van driving recently and one of the routes includes it. The most striking thing passing through and around it is that I've never seen a city which such an air of faded glories - it seems full of lovely red brick and polychromatic Victorian buildings, most of which seem to be on the verge of collapse.

Yes, I lived in Leicester for a few years and the city always seemed a bit too 'big' for its current population: lots of streets that were too wide and too empty and a lot of under-used buildings. It's also quite a poor city, most work is low-paid and you don't have the same clusters of big companies in financial services and engineering design that you do in places like Bristol or Leeds. And yes, there are a lot of sweatshops in Leicester - it's normally below the radar but the recent BooHoo scandal pulled it out into the open.

With that said, housing is somewhat more affordable than a lot of places and it's still better than Coventry.

Dead Goon
Dec 13, 2002

No Obvious Flaws



I once had to go look at a piece of machinery at a supplier somewhere on the outskirts of Leicester and found that the roads made it absolutely impossible to leave once you had entered the system.

I'm still there actually, driving around Leicester, taking in the sights.

We actually ended up in a bus lane right near what looked like a pedestrianised shopping area and somewhere we shouldn't have been. When we turned off down a back street we were greeted by a fine young gentleman dragging a screaming young lady down the road by her hair, can of special brew in his free hand.

CGI Stardust
Nov 7, 2010


Brexit is but a door,
election time is but a window.

I'll be back
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/11/12/carries-crew-sees-brexit-boys-boy/

quote:

The Telegraph has been told that so-called "Brexit Boys" working inside Government under the control of Mr Cummings and Mr Cain had taken to calling Ms Symonds "Princess Nut Nuts" behind her back.

A source said she was labelled a "princess" for allegedly being high maintenance and acting regally. The first "nut", according to the source, alluded to her being "crazy" – there is no evidence for that – while the second "nuts" reference comes from a belief among the "Brexit Boys" clique that she bears some facial similarity to a squirrel.

A Number 10 spokesman said: "These are malicious allegations which are totally untrue."
could someone please give me the ol' Trotsky Treatment; i no longer want a cerebral cortex

Doctor_Fruitbat
Jun 2, 2013


I remember having to leave Leicester after dark, and my sat nav told me to turn left while buried what appeared to be six lanes deep in traffic. Later on I turned left into what turned out to be a dead end, and had to spend ten minutes at the side of the road trying to work out the next twenty metres of my journey, because none of the directions at hand seemed to make sense.

It's one of the reasons I stopped driving. I don't get how people do it; I can navigate as the crow flies no problem, but roads are weaved by Satan from threads of nightmare.

Nutapii
Jun 24, 2020

jabby posted:


If you're into clubbing the nightlife is... not good. But you're close enough to Nottingham that you can pop down there.

...because Nottingham has good train connections? :confused:

Jippa posted:

I went to the midlands once and all I remember was lots of traffic lights and power stations.

It's that repeating animation scene from the Simpsons, but with brick slip, poured concrete, and mobile phone shops.

Nutapii fucked around with this message at 14:18 on Nov 14, 2020

Bobby Deluxe
May 9, 2004

We're moving in a few weeks and the sister in law is delighting in telling us all the ways we can get around the rules to get people to help us.

Since full lockdown has been relaxed, she seems to think that the concept of the bubble means that you can have multiple bubbles -

- the house we currently share,
- our gran, who lives on her own,
- her friend who has kids, their dad has visitation rights, she's seeing someone new and her mum visits the kids as well as half of the town to help out,
- her dad, who's wife has severe COPD and needed oxygen before covid,
- her work, which I thank god for or she'd be around the house all week driving me insane
- skating with her friends
- loving TINDER DATES

Those aren't bubbles, they're links. Now that we're in full lockdown again she's only visiting my gran occasionally, which shows if the government had just said the word lockdown, people would have loving listened.

Honestly the unclear messaging and trying to be clever to get round the rules is what's hosed us as a country. If the guidance was 'mask on, 2 feet apart, shop only when necessary, no socialising' as it should have been, the people screeching about masks and tyranny would be a crazy minority, as they should be.

They've conflated what we should do with what we're allowed to do, and it's why you get things like my sister in law visiting typhoid karen and two COPD patients while also living with an asthma sufferer, i.e. me. They haven't impressed on people the importance of why they're isolating, just setting up a convoluted set of contradictory rules.

Early on the non-government guidance was clear - wash your hands because it spreads by touch, wear a mask and avoid crowds because it spreads by coughing. And then they started slipping in exceptions for pubs, and cafés, and businesses, and bubbles, and rule of 6, and so on.

Now we have a situation where the average person either doesn't know the rules, or thinks there are exceptions they can slip through. They've infected the public with rules lawyering.

Like I said with my sister in law. She knows that households shouldn't be mixing. But because the clever exceptions are there, she feels like she may as well use them if they benefit her.

Marmaduke!
May 19, 2009

Why would it do that!?

vaguely posted:

all the ways Cummings has fully hosed up this country and what gets him fired is secondary school gossip girlfriend drama, complete with dipshit mates passing notes

I look forward to rummaging through the dystopian wasteland where you have to piece together what went wrong by reading a series of increasingly-erratic hand-written notes taken from the decomposed corpses left among the ruins as you fight off the rage-infected hordes

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
The unofficial city motto of Leicester:

Pistol_Pete posted:

it's still better than Coventry.

kecske
Feb 28, 2011

it's round, like always

Marmaduke! posted:

I look forward to rummaging through the dystopian wasteland where you have to piece together what went wrong by reading a series of increasingly-erratic hand-written notes taken from the decomposed corpses left among the ruins as you fight off the rage-infected hordes

you could do this in Glasgow right now

Jakabite
Jul 31, 2010

Surprise T Rex posted:

SO's family have decided that they're getting grandma to babysit and going to their bosses house for a drink later because it's been a hard week. :(

Honestly, I don't know what you can even do at this point, lockdown is loving useless when everyone has a "yeah but this is different" justification for how THEIR socialising is okay.

Honestly at this point, when the majority of workplaces are still open along with schools, lockdown is pretty pointless anyway. We don’t have effective track and trace, we aren’t doing anything about people coming into the country - we don’t have any of the things in place to make this effective in anything but the shortest of terms. Back at the start I’d have agreed that this is poo poo but it’s been almost a year and the toll on mental health from not being able to see friends and family is honestly a bigger concern to some people at this point, imo. I don’t begrudge anyone this really.

Clarence
May 3, 2012

Dead Goon posted:

I once had to go look at a piece of machinery at a supplier somewhere on the outskirts of Leicester and found that the roads made it absolutely impossible to leave once you had entered the system.

Went to a recording of I'm Sorry I Haven't A Clue in Leicester, and during the pre-show banter Humphrey Lyttleton asked the audience if the roads designer was present, and if they were would they meet him outside.

kingturnip
Apr 18, 2008
I just got an email of doooom, telling me I need to self-isolate.
Not sure whoever gave my details thought it through very carefully, mind you. It was to my work email, and I don't work weekends.
The only reason I checked was that I need to send some information to students before Monday.


Also, is it just a sense of moral duty that prevents you from saying you've been in contact with a bunch of people you don't like? Because I can see that being tempting.

Oh dear me
Aug 14, 2012

I have burned numerous saucepans, sometimes right through the metal

Doctor_Fruitbat posted:

It's one of the reasons I stopped driving. I don't get how people do it; I can navigate as the crow flies no problem, but roads are weaved by Satan from threads of nightmare.

Satnavs changed my life.

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Brendan Rodgers
Jun 11, 2014




Oh dear me posted:

Satnavs changed my life.

Yeah until you end up in this horror short for real:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jh09uIN6tl0

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