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Guillermus posted:That being said, DS2 feels kinda weird but I like it. I love playing all Dark Souls (and Demon's Souls) despide whatever flaws each one has. Because of VideoGame's stream I'm streaming a new Bloodborne character, even if no one is actually watching my channel and I find it really fun to do a session without stopping or grinding. Might keep doing it after Bloodborne with all other games. Yeah, honestly I just get really mad about when games I really like otherwise have one flaw that bothers me very much. If a game is just straight garbage who cares. It's the same with Revengeance's camera.
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I'm not sure if they properly fixed it in SOTFS, but if i remember right, the reason why weapons would break so easily were if the weapon itself went through objects or terrain, because apparently it counts as multiple hits the farther you strike with your weapon. That's how you were able to break Santier's Spear in a couple of minutes by tapping R1 on some raised elevated terrain. This is also how your whip would go through walls and turn to dust in seconds
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Nov 8, 2020 00:41
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I think the only thing that they ever fixed is made it so that it didn't scale with framerate
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Dremcon posted:I’m doing a coop run with my brother and settled on warped sword/washing pole power stance, at least for now. I realized I’ve never done a DS2 run with a low durability weapon before (katanas, etc.). We haven’t made it to Drangleic yet so I can’t buy unlimited repair powder. Is it a pain/concern?
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Nov 8, 2020 00:51
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Weapons degrade a lot faster on DS2 compared to any other. It also throws at you upgrade materials so having more than one weapon upgraded is a must, that or having a lot of repair powder. A thing that kinda bothers me is that certain weapons have such low durability that make them annoying to use.
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Nov 14, 2020 14:05
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Guillermus posted:Weapons degrade a lot faster on DS2 compared to any other. It also throws at you upgrade materials so having more than one weapon upgraded is a must, that or having a lot of repair powder. A thing that kinda bothers me is that certain weapons have such low durability that make them annoying to use. Are you playing pc unpatched. It's a known glitch tied to higher framerates
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Nov 14, 2020 23:30
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They're not talking about that, ds2 weapons do also just break way faster than in the other games(which is why they autorepair at bonfires). Like if you're using a shortsword or dagger in forest of the fallen giants you will run into durability issues and want to switch to another weapon before it breaks.
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Nov 15, 2020 02:53
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Allegedly there are possibly still issues with durability if you hit multiple enemies at the same time or some other, similar factor. Not 100% sure on that myself but I did notice while clearing out DLC3 that my King's UGS got half worn down at one point which is suspiciously low for one of the most durable weapons in the game. ...But that also might've been while I was doing the full Loyce Knight loops which do get long in the tooth and have the occasional hedgehogs to contend with so  The only other time it got that low was against Sinh, natch.
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Nov 15, 2020 03:23
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My understanding is that weapons lose durability on every 1/30th of a second they are considered to be in contact with something. It used to be every frame but they fixed that.
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Nov 15, 2020 03:26
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I forget if it's contact with walls, contact with dead bodies, or both, but yes, weapons in DS2 degrade in ways they don't in other games. (Or at least don't as much; durability replenished at bonfires in DS3 too but it was barely a concern)
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Nov 15, 2020 05:32
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Has anyone ever had to use a repair powder or have a weapon actually break in DS3?
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Nov 15, 2020 09:29
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DS2 giving the choice of two sidearms combined with the low durability felt like the game was signalling that you should be using more than one weapon. At least until you get into the game's groove having a couple different options and switching to them feels pretty good.
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Nov 15, 2020 12:08
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This also ties in to the higher resistances to certain types; eg skellies and armored dudes get wrecked by blunt damage while piercing is great against the weaker ones; and the DLC fodder having quite high magic resistance. Rolling with a mace and a rapier is a very good strat, even if you have to spread around your titanite you'll still deal more damage overall.
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Nov 15, 2020 12:58
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The true way to play DS2 is to have every one of your six hand slots filled with something useful.  To the guy looking for a weapon, fully recommend Pate's Spear, tho you need a pretty high DEX to use it. Pairs well with daggers, caestus, axes. If you prefer STR/quality, Grand Lance is also available early and is a real trooper.
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Probably going to do a spear/caestus run. Left Pate for Earthen. Just finished the first chunk of dungeon, and luckily fought 2 early Pursuers in other folks' games back to back, then again in mine, for a tidy 60k souls in one session 
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Appoda posted:The true way to play DS2 is to have every one of your six hand slots filled with something useful. Extremely this, at least late game. For fun spears, don't forget about the Silverblack Spear. A pain to grind for, but it's the Partisan moveset with a boatload of dark damage.
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Nov 16, 2020 21:23
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Got a fancy new Xbox and ds2 sotfs happened to be on sale for less than a 6-pack so now I’m playing a mage. I’ve played through the game several times on both PC and PS4, I can’t stop. Edit: I don’t remember where all the cool mage shirts is. Happy Hedonist fucked around with this message at 09:50 on Nov 17, 2020 |
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Nov 16, 2020 22:21
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So what’s the deal with the supersonic hollow in Huntsman’s Copse anyway?
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Nov 17, 2020 12:28
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I think he’s there to try and goad you into rushing into a mess. One of the areas he shows up at is the walk up to the bridge that needs to be dropped where a half dozen Undead Thieves are waiting to ambush you, and he’ll lead ya to the centre of that group if you chase him.
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Nov 17, 2020 12:34
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He also drops something special, though I forget what. But yeah, he's there to get you to follow him into encounters.
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Nov 17, 2020 12:47
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I think it just drops repair powder
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Nov 17, 2020 14:16
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Gaius Marius posted:Are you playing pc unpatched. It's a known glitch tied to higher framerates DS2 SOTFS on both PC and PS4 have faster weapon degradation than the rest of the series, is what I meant. Even after patched, DS1 (cept for the crystal upgraded weapons) and DS3 have negligible weapon degradation.
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Nov 18, 2020 14:15
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Is it possible to still download GeDoSaTo anywhere? I liked using the texture override options to replace the xbox icons.
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Proletarian Mango posted:Is it possible to still download GeDoSaTo anywhere? I liked using the texture override options to replace the xbox icons.
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Dec 3, 2020 04:43
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Thanks unfortunately it doesn't work for the base game which is all I have.
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Proletarian Mango posted:Thanks unfortunately it doesn't work for the base game which is all I have.
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NGDBSS posted:I just checked it now and it's still valid for OG DS2, but you can't just replace the whole folder. Scholar DS2's fonts are entirely .dcx files; OG DS2 has those plus some additional stuff. So instead you need to overwrite the .dcx font files individually. Oh, cool beans. Thank you for figuring that out.
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Dec 3, 2020 16:34
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Hey, just coming to this from DS1 and have a couple questions: Is the shortsword going to be viable all game? Any other weapons with a decent mix of thrusting and slashing attacks I should be looking for? Is boosting dex and str something I should be doing beyond the bare minimum for weapon requirements? I've been getting an increase of just 1 or 2 damage with B scaling which doesn't seem like a good investment.
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I went through most of DS2 with a Claymore. R1 is sweeping, R2 is thrust, then a slash.
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Fruits of the sea posted:Hey, just coming to this from DS1 and have a couple questions: I have no real experience with the short sword, but there are several great slash and thrust options. The Longsword, specifically, is an incredible option with a thrusting R2. The claymore is also pretty good for that if you wanna step up to Greatsword sized weapons. As for stats, you will want to boost your Strength and/or Dexterity beyond the minimum unless you’re playing a Caster. Raising both is a great option in DS2 and is referred to as a Quality Build, and is great for letting you wield pretty much anything. This is particularly useful in DS2 as you have three weapon sets to play with versus DS1’s two. You can easily go through the whole game carrying a long sword, winged spear and mace with a quality build. There’s also Power Stancing, where if you have 150% of the required stats to wield a weapon, you can pair it with another weapon in your off hand and go into a special stance that changes your L1 and L2 attacks to special dual wielding animations. It gives up using a shield, but it’s generally worth it. Special mention to pairing the Warped Sword with another Curved Sword to get a rad spinning L2 attack.
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Fruits of the sea posted:Is boosting dex and str something I should be doing beyond the bare minimum for weapon requirements? I've been getting an increase of just 1 or 2 damage with B scaling which doesn't seem like a good investment. Scaling in DS2 reflects a percentage of your related ATK Up stat, without reference to the weapon's base damage. Because Dex weapons swing more often, the multiplier used by scaling for Dex is less than other stats to maintain more consistent overall DPS. It's still worth doing if you're doing a dex build, and higher stat requirements are more common than in DS1; there are ~58 weapons in DS2 that require 20 or more Dex, compared to 11 in DS1. Some of those DS2 weapons aren't even primarily Dex weapons, either.
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DS2 has a more gradual leveling curve so you'll be able to afford 40/40 in two attack stats by endgame regardless.
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i am tim! posted:I have no real experience with the short sword, but there are several great slash and thrust options. The Longsword, specifically, is an incredible option with a thrusting R2. The claymore is also pretty good for that if you wanna step up to Greatsword sized weapons. Ahh, thanks. Quality build sounds like a good idea to try out some different weapons. I was experimenting with power stance shortswords at the ogre in the river - it was neat, but I think I'll need some more endurance to make the stamina drain less of a liability. I'd do some sick moves and then be unable to roll past a hit  Paracelsus posted:Scaling in DS2 reflects a percentage of your related ATK Up stat, without reference to the weapon's base damage. Because Dex weapons swing more often, the multiplier used by scaling for Dex is less than other stats to maintain more consistent overall DPS. It's still worth doing if you're doing a dex build, and higher stat requirements are more common than in DS1; there are ~58 weapons in DS2 that require 20 or more Dex, compared to 11 in DS1. Some of those DS2 weapons aren't even primarily Dex weapons, either. huh, interesting. So I should take swing speed into account for dex weapons.
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Unless you really need the stats for something, there's no reason not to take a longsword over the shortsword. Very flexible weapon, quick and easy to use.
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Shortsword's got the neato one-handed thrust attack and the longsword doesn't. It's true you can just switch to two-handing whenever you need to stab something with the longsword but I could see someone valuing the convenience of having the thrust available with one hand. The shortsword's good enough to be viable, so stick with it if you like it imo
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Maybe things are different in DS2, but my go-to in DS1 was two-handing relatively quick weapons so I could get a little extra power and reach while still being able to dodge stuff. Just found a fire longsword too!
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Fruits of the sea posted:Maybe things are different in DS2, but my go-to in DS1 was two-handing relatively quick weapons so I could get a little extra power and reach while still being able to dodge stuff. Just found a fire longsword too! DS2 still rewards that. Like an optimal way to get the "no deaths" and "no bonfire sitting" ring rewards on a fast runthrough of the game is to grab a rapier, two hand it, buff it with magic, and go to town on every required boss sitting between you and the end of the game. Most of the base game's bosses are trundling dinguses that can't really compete with fast, aggressive weapons anyway, so that works just fine. The DLC bosses will be a bit harder no matter what, and there's one that will be rapid-degrading your weapons, which means smaller or dex-based ones that tend to have less durability will probably break once or twice in the fight, but really there's such a huge variety of creative weapons in DS2 that any two combinations of strength, dexterity, magic, miracles, hexes, and pyromancies are a lot of fun.
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I've had a couple really fun runs. If you build around ceastus and then rush 2 bone fists by using a bonefire ascetic you can play the rest of the game as an absolute badass. I also really like going hex/dex with a spear and dark orb. It's probably the most OP build I've played personally. Once you hit the dlc and magic isn't as useful you can transition to using a Moonlight Greatsword, either enchanted or magic depending on the situation. For some reason I have 3 of them on my mage lol.
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You actually don't need a second bone fist. Power stancing it with a caestus will still get you the additional moves. If I ever get the itch to go run through SOTFS it's going to be a punchy fist run for sure.
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John Murdoch posted:You actually don't need a second bone fist. Power stancing it with a caestus will still get you the additional moves. You don’t need it, but it’s all about the fashion.
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