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Agreed walnut smells nutty, cherry smells fruity, padauk smells perfumy, mesquite smells BBQey, ....even red oak but tbf, I love the smell of cut hardwood in the morning....smells like big tree
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Hypnolobster posted:Walnut smells great and very unique, but a lot of people have a stronger than usual reaction to the dust. I use a lot of walnut, its my favorite, and the dust drives my sinuses nuts. I turned a Padauk bowl without wearing a mask or using dust collection and my nose and lungs hurt for 3 days.
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Alaskan Yellow Cedar seems to have a lovely fragrance, but I've got no idea where to find it in large pieces on a regular basis. I've only used it in small scale modeling.
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Nov 12, 2020 21:06
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Camphor Laurel smells incredible regardless of cutting or not. It has some sort of antibacterial oil in it that smells like tea tree oil, it's a dream to work with Plus it's classed as a noxious weed so it's in no short supply 
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Anyone got a particular dowelling jig they'd recommend that doesn't cost the earth? I got asked to put some not too expensive woodworking things on my birthday and christmas list and that came to mind.
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Toast posted:Anyone got a particular dowelling jig they'd recommend that doesn't cost the earth? I got asked to put some not too expensive woodworking things on my birthday and christmas list and that came to mind. $30 ain't bad: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Stanley-No-59-Doweling-Jig-w-Original-Box-6-guides/133573204714?hash=item1f19955aea:g:tJoAAOSwwdRfq6gc Also easy enough to make one out of some hard wood like oak or get some bushings from Mcmaster and press fit them into whatever. https://www.mcmaster.com/drill-bushings/drill-bushings-for-soft-metal-and-wood/
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I don't, but I watched this yesterday: https://youtu.be/AmTOwYiEwVo And they recommended this: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000022419/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_awdb_imm_t1_.QFRFb6J5P2JS
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Kaiser Schnitzel posted:I really like the old Stanley no. 59 jig, but you'll have to find it on ebay. Yeah, and I probably would but figured it might be an easy thing for an aunt/uncle to purchase. Probably can't convince them to ebay though. The dowl-it 1000 is one I was looking at before but doesn't seem to be on amazon canada. Toast fucked around with this message at 04:28 on Nov 13, 2020 |
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Uthor posted:And they recommended this:   I know when i buy my jig I buy them by the ounce I just found the most amazing channel on youtube and I though I should post it here. Grandpa Amu seems to live in the Chinese countryside? He makes all kinds of intricate boxes and puzzles with nothing but a hacksaw, a chisel, and a file. his work bench is a sawhorse made of scrap wood with some nails in it  This man is living the ideal lifehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GJSNeWGkNc
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Toast posted:Anyone got a particular dowelling jig they'd recommend that doesn't cost the earth? I got asked to put some not too expensive woodworking things on my birthday and christmas list and that came to mind. I've had good results with this £18 one (though I switched to biscuits with the router): https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0001P19PY/
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Backtracking to wood smells, A couple of years ago a coworker cut down a big lilac and gave me the trunk. I carved a spoon out of it and it had a very pleasant floral smell. The wood had quite a twist in it though and I hear the spoon pretzeled a fair bit once it dried though
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I had an idea for building my own dowelling setup from scratch with a 3d printer and some chisels and extra plane irons but I haven't done it yet. Basically it would run through one setup with a chisel in it to rough out the dowel, and then through a second that would be essentially a large pencil sharpenter with the plane iron to finish it. But 
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Uthor posted:And they recommended this: I've had that for years and it works great.
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I have the harbor freight version of that jig and it's a flaming pile of crap. Loose tolerances means it's not truly self centering, leads to pieces just slightly off. Very frustrating. I'm leaning towards a dowelmax, seems like it could do everything a domino can do.
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Rutibex posted:
This dude loving rules. Check out his bamboo bridge video.
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Cannon_Fodder posted:This dude loving rules. Check out his bamboo bridge video.  Does bamboo count as wood?
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Rutibex posted:
It’s a grass family plant, but you can do a lot of wood-like things with it. I’d suggest it takes a good amount of practice to get good with it like any other building material.
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It does not. Like palms (another member of the grass family) it has trunks that look a lot like wood and act a lot like wood, but aren’t really wood.
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Does restoring iron hand-planes or sharpening metal blades count as woodworking? I think we're splitting hairs here. Dude's a craftsman.
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Also, I don't think I knew that palm is actually a grass.
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Mr. Mambold posted:It counts more than mdf as an organic wood substitute, imo. It's hella versatile if you've got a gigantic factory, and I don't think there's any danger of running short of it. Despite bamboo/palms not technically being wood, they sure act like it and absolutely feel free to talk about them itt imo.
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Speaking of trees, did you know that sharks are older than trees? Not like, individually, but as a thing on the earth. Anyway, I'm resawing this oak board and gently caress it's taking a long time. I cut along each length with the table saw but even with the roughest handsaw I own, cutting through the remaining core is taking FOREVER. Short of a bandsaw, is there any other way I can speed this up?
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Is your saw sharp? What's the pitch on it? I use a 5 tpi thumbhole ripsaw to resaw. It sucks, but the progress is appreciable. Having the tablesaw cuts as guide tracks sounds wonderful. Turn the music up and zone out till it's done. If you really want to step up your game you could build a huge frame saw. Renaissance Woodworker has a (very long) video. Building one is on my "maybe some day" list.
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ColdPie posted:Is your saw sharp? What's the pitch on it? I use a 5 tpi thumbhole ripsaw to resaw. It sucks, but the progress is appreciable. Having the tablesaw cuts as guide tracks sounds wonderful. Turn the music up and zone out till it's done. I guess so? I've only used it to cut soft construction lumber to this point. This is my rough cut saw: https://www.drapertools.com/product/82194/First-Fix-Draper-Venom-Double-Ground-500mm-Handsaw though I tried others too. Progress is "appreciable" but I suspect it's going to be several days' work.
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That looks like it's filed crosscut, and it's tempered so you can't refile it, so it's definitely the wrong tool for the job. I guess you're in Europe so I have no idea what the tool market is like over there. If you were in the US I'd recommend picking up an old, 4 or 5 TPI full size (26", ~660mm) ripsaw for like $30-50 on eBay. The job will still suck, but it won't be impossible like it is with the saw you have now. Or go the framesaw route. Or wait for a power tool guy to chime in. E: The saw I use is the thumbhole one at the top of the page here: http://www.disstonianinstitute.com/d8page.html ColdPie fucked around with this message at 14:17 on Nov 14, 2020 |
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Jaded Burnout posted:I guess so? I've only used it to cut soft construction lumber to this point. This is my rough cut saw: Echoing the above, having saw with a rip tooth will make a world of difference. I recently re-filed the teeth on an old crosscut D10 so they were a rip profile. Refiling the teeth then doing the cut was faster than doing the cut with the crosscut profile.
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I've had a look around and I don't think there's such a thing as a dedicated rip saw in general retail here, they're all some form of hardened proprietary "universal cut" tooth profile or a more specialty shop which I'll bear in mind for the future. So, I found a decent-looking 22" (max size) 7tpi (min teeth) handsaw that had at least one review saying it works well for ripping (60% were people cutting up oak sleepers for the garden) and I'll go pick that up, give it a go.
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Jaded Burnout posted:I've had a look around and I don't think there's such a thing as a dedicated rip saw in general retail here, they're all some form of hardened proprietary "universal cut" tooth profile or a more specialty shop which I'll bear in mind for the future. I've been ripping ash - mind you not resawing - with a 7tpi "aggressive" hand saw and it works. It's not fun, but it works.
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Hand-ripping wood is definitely a niche activity these days, so it doesn't surprise me that most handsaws are tuned towards crosscutting.
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It always surprises me that there's not much of an old tools market in Europe. Seems like y'all would have more old tools floating around than us, but it appears not to be the case. I wonder why that is. Maybe the much more established society meant there was less need for every person to own fundamental woodworking tools during the industrial era, so they're just less common? Dunno.
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ColdPie posted:It always surprises me that there's not much of an old tools market in Europe. Seems like y'all would have more old tools floating around than us, but it appears not to be the case. I wonder why that is. Maybe the much more established society meant there was less need for every person to own fundamental woodworking tools during the industrial era, so they're just less common? Dunno. Well, I'm sure there are, but I needed it today. Part of it is that we're not one country, and even with the eurozone (which I'm not in) you're looking at a bunch of regional websites in dozens of languages and less well-connected shipping. After the end of the year there'll be extra customs for me to deal with too. It's kind of like how you have websites and companies which can specialise, like a Harbor Freight selling rock bottom priced tools, because you've got a much bigger market to work in, so the economies of scale work out. A lot of the EU has a shared currency and shared transport borders which helps, but still, EU nations aren't US states, and the language barrier exists even among those on the continent. Plus different manufacturing histories and cultures, so while you might say that the UK has some stock of old UK-made tools, Germany will have a different stock of different tools, and so on. The US while not a monoculture is definitely *more* culturally homogenous. ALSO, the UK and many places in Europe are more heavily populated, so while there's something of a workshop renaissance happening all over the world, it's more likely that someone in the US had the room for a decent sized workshop, rather than a sliver of a garage. Also also, how old is "old" for the sort of tools you're talking about? The USA is no spring chicken but you're still 250 years old. Who's buying 300 y/o saws and screwdrivers?
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Cool, thanks for the info. I've definitely seen "German-style" woodworking (e.g. bowsaws) and "English-style woodworking" (e.g. handsaws), so what's available will vary. And yeah I guess I don't know anything about shipping across borders or dealing with different websites and languages. Sounds like a pain for sure. For US-made hand tools, common wisdom is the best stuff was made between about 1900 and 1940. That's after mass manufacturing made them high quality and relatively affordable, but before power tools took off and quality nosedived. At the time, many homes outside of cities and the East coast were still being built, so the tools were very common, which translates to them being common, cheap, high quality tools today. I guess what I'm pondering is why that isn't the case in Europe.
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Dunno! Maybe most of our housing stock was already built, and once we were rebuilding post-war it's all brick and concrete. Also it's possible that there's some super continental market for old tools that I'm not privy to.
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All the antique hand planes were melted down to make bullets to fight the Germans
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I'm in the market for a reasonable 'entry level' bandsaw after a bonus from work. Needs to be something I can buy in the UK too, and bench mounted for space reasons. Any recommendations?
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serious gaylord posted:I'm in the market for a reasonable 'entry level' bandsaw after a bonus from work. Needs to be something I can buy in the UK too, and bench mounted for space reasons. I have this one, and it works great for me. Its not the same brand, but it looks identical in shape to what I have. I assume they all come from the same Chinese factory and whoever just puts a different sticker on it: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Record-Power-BS250-Benchtop-Bandsaw/dp/B000Y8SDQQ/ I don't know if £332.20 is a good deal on a bandsaw in england. I got mine for $100 canadian, but it was a warehouse deal and it was dinged up a bit.
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I paid £100 for an old biggish 3-wheel which is nice and I can still get parts for it, and it has a 15" throat. Personally I'd say try and get something old because for that ^ money you can buy a lot of old bandsaw. E: scratch that, just looking at eBay all the old stuff is now the same price as the new stuff. Get whatever you can afford new. What's your budget? cakesmith handyman fucked around with this message at 19:41 on Nov 14, 2020 |
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Rutibex posted:I have this one, and it works great for me. Its not the same brand, but it looks identical in shape to what I have. I assume they all come from the same Chinese factory and whoever just puts a different sticker on it: I've got £500 but I do want to try and get a basic pillar drill too so the less I spend on the bandsaw the better drill etc. But at the same time I don't want to buy something shite that will need replacing in 2 years
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I just cut up some sapele for the first time, and holy poo poo, it does smell good.
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