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toggle posted:How do you guys think you guys (the US) will go in the coming months/year? Will you be able get it under control.. at all? Will the warmer months be the target to really start making changes? It's going to be another two months until there is anyone at the federal level that will even want to try to do anything about it so the spread will only get worse. The US will probably hit 2-3 thousand dead per day.
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toggle posted:How do you guys think you guys (the US) will go in the coming months/year? Will you be able get it under control.. at all? Will the warmer months be the target to really start making changes? Even in states with strong trust in government, there's an urban/rural divide. And the rural folks don't give a poo poo. Also lots of people and businesses are dying without a further stimulus bill. So even when businesses ostensibly give a poo poo, they are hosed, so it's a choice between "we close forever and our employees are homeless" and "public health" so compliance is low. Basically, paying people to stay home is the only way through this. And the United States is broken and there's no chance of another stimulus bill - maybe ever.
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Nov 15, 2020 22:41
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America is too big to have a cohesive “the US will XYZ” it’s certain that the places that are currently doing good things will continue to do good things and the places doing nothing will continue to do nothing. The federal government will help and encourage places to do good things (which is a new development) but usually the places that are doing bad things or nothing will push back against that. People in trump country will die more per capita than people with good local/state government. Cities are generally liberal/good governance strongholds compared to trump land. They also generally have higher risk factors like population density and travelers/tourists. Cities will also have more resources to help people who get sick. So what you’ll see, of course, is a shitload of old people dying, a shitload of more people being infected, and willful denial of truth by Trump people and people whose interests are best served in the short term by ignoring reality. It’s gonna get worse before it gets better but it will be much worse for republicans and the US as a whole because of Republican leadership being more keen on denying Coronavirus. In situations where republicans are in power (in office or in demographic), things aren’t gonna be good. If you can imagine three lines: Perfect Government Response representing the lowest of the three infection rates and “Do The Worst Possible Thing or Nothing” representing the highest of the three, we’ll be somewhere above the midpoint between those things.
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Nov 15, 2020 22:45
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The only thing that will slow the rise in the US is the actual finite (if large) number of people. But reinfection is a thing, so even population size won’t slow it as fast as it could. 300k cases per day doesn’t seem far off now. Spoke to a friend in Japan the other day, and he said that day the US had more new cases than Japan has had. Period.
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Nov 15, 2020 22:48
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toggle posted:How do you guys think you guys (the US) will go in the coming months/year? Will you be able get it under control.. at all? Will the warmer months be the target to really start making changes? the only way we make any changes whatsoever will be if this winter everyone in america personally knows someone who dies of covid, which at the rate we are going might happen the only way this situation ends here is an effective vaccine gets roled out to the whole country we’re looking at literally another year or two
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Nov 15, 2020 22:49
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I can't remember who, but somebody occasionally posts in here with updates about how well Australia has been doing. We don't have community transmission, although we still have occasional cases from people returning from overseas, who get put in quarantine in hotels and other places until they're definitely cleared. Well, our streak is over now, one of the "medi-hotel" workers got infected*, with four cases yesterday and 17 more found today, including people who were infectious and went to a hospital, a prison, a supermarket... The state where it happened hasn't had community transmission since April so I bet that most people haven't been taking many precautions lately. Fingers crossed it can be got under control quickly. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-11-16/coronavirus-adelaide-cluster-south-australia-what-we-know/12885978 *Technically not certain yet but one of the cases worked there so it seems the likeliest source
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Nov 15, 2020 23:08
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toggle posted:How do you guys think you guys (the US) will go in the coming months/year? Will you be able get it under control.. at all? Will the warmer months be the target to really start making changes? Here's a graph of projected daily deaths from some couple week old modelling:  Note that there is no mask compliance, no mandates of any note, and the daily case numbers are already outpacing the model.. With 50 million travelling for thanksgiving, I don't think anyone knows how bad it's going to get. Graph from https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-020-1132-9
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Nov 15, 2020 23:09
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https://twitter.com/edyong209/status/1328053979180380165 poo poo is real bad in the USA right now  And there's still Thanksgiving and Christmas superspreader events coming up in a few weeks.
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Nov 16, 2020 00:11
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We are so unspeakably hosed it’s impossible to put into words. ***Potentially problematic sentence removed.*** This will go down as one of the greatest atrocities in decades; if not more. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST) Somebody fucked around with this message at 06:40 on Nov 16, 2020 |
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Nov 16, 2020 00:34
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Nov 16, 2020 00:56
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I was flipping through the tv channels and came upon a WNBA game. It was in an indoor stadium, with completely packed bleachers and I couldn't see one person wearing a mask. How the gently caress is this legal.
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Nov 16, 2020 01:06
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FiskTireBoy posted:I was flipping through the tv channels and came upon a WNBA game. It was in an indoor stadium, with completely packed bleachers and I couldn't see one person wearing a mask. How the gently caress is this legal. That's a good question because I'm pretty sure WNBA season ended a while ago. AFAIK they played in a bubble just like NBA this last season so you might've seen an old game.
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toggle posted:How do you guys think you guys (the US) will go in the coming months/year? Will you be able get it under control.. at all? Will the warmer months be the target to really start making changes? They hit seven consecutive days of 100,000+ cases a few days ago and it's still business as usual
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toggle posted:How do you guys think you guys (the US) will go in the coming months/year? Will you be able get it under control.. at all? Will the warmer months be the target to really start making changes? The next few months are going to be really, really bad. We've been abandoned by our federal government. And many of the state governments actively fight any measures meant to contain the spread. There seems to be some light at the end of the tunnel with the new administration coming in (unless Trump succeeds in his coup in which case we are hosed) but until then we are on our own and Americans just aren't cut out to handle any kind of real crisis anymore.
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Nov 16, 2020 02:01
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toggle posted:How do you guys think you guys (the US) will go in the coming months/year? Will you be able get it under control.. at all? Will the warmer months be the target to really start making changes? I'm in Alabama and I'm absolutely shocked we aren't at the top of the rona charts. I feel like that's due to lack of superspreader events where folks from more populous states pay us a visit because our covid response, mask hygiene, and general attitude are all trashfire level. We were closing rural hospitals before the pandemic and are utterly unequipped to handle strain proportional to what you're seeing in the news for places like El Paso. I'm living in a local hotspot and going nowhere outside of work and drive thrus unless necessary to survive. It's gonna get real bleak in the next few months. The plague isn't over.
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Nov 16, 2020 02:17
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It's gonna be a real Dark Winter. people are sick of me posting the The Division intro video, but just pretend i posted it again, forever
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Nov 16, 2020 02:21
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We should be panicking like crazy but it almost seems like election fatigue has everyone just accepting the inevitable disaster.
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Nov 16, 2020 02:37
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eggyolk posted:We should be panicking like crazy but it almost seems like election fatigue has everyone just accepting the inevitable disaster. The people who saw this sadly predictable autumn/winter spike coming back in late spring and early summer are accepting the inevitable disaster because, well, the writing was on the wall as soon as it became obvious that Americans wouldn't endure even minor inconvenience let alone disrupt Big Family Traditions like Thanksgiving and Christmas. Everyone else just doesn't give a poo poo, apparently.
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Nov 16, 2020 03:07
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So she’s showing how we don’t need 50 people in a gym to excercise?
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Nov 16, 2020 03:15
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I hope you guys are doing your best to avoid all this fuckery. Can only imagine how stressed out you'd all be. 
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Nov 16, 2020 03:40
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I think everything will just continue to chug along until DC becomes like NYC was in the 'bad outbreak time earlier this year. At that point something will be done by congress.
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Nov 16, 2020 03:49
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Blitter posted:Let's just consider that sturgis was 250K people travelling. Yeah it's not looking good https://twitter.com/pookleblinky/status/1328052903261728770 https://twitter.com/pookleblinky/status/1328054272232140800
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Nov 16, 2020 04:43
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Ultimate Mango posted:But reinfection is a thing Speaking of that, you'll never guess which world leader got exposed again https://twitter.com/BorisJohnson/status/1328096750473719808 LOL Snowglobe of Doom fucked around with this message at 04:50 on Nov 16, 2020 |
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Nov 16, 2020 04:45
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Instead of herd immunity maybe we need to go all in on herd infection. If everyone has it all at once, it can’t spread any more, can it?
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Nov 16, 2020 04:56
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:Yeah it's not looking good  Welp looks like I better increase the nonperishables stock from a few weeks' worth to a few months' worth
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Nov 16, 2020 05:53
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https://twitter.com/seungminkim/status/1327976471567228929 Eh you probably couldn't afford the medical care anyway, they're practically doing you a favour
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Nov 16, 2020 06:48
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roll tide we're not on the list because we don't have enough hospitals to put up numbers
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Nov 16, 2020 07:03
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With the way those states are going they should call that chyron “Charon” because Charon ferries dead people across the river styx? This joke seemed funnier in my head
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FiskTireBoy posted:The next few months are going to be really, really bad. We've been abandoned by our federal government. And many of the state governments actively fight any measures meant to contain the spread. There seems to be some light at the end of the tunnel with the new administration coming in (unless Trump succeeds in his coup in which case we are hosed) but until then we are on our own and Americans just aren't cut out to handle any kind of real crisis anymore. The federal government hasn't just abandoned people, it's also actively undermining states who are trying to impose restrictions https://twitter.com/cnnbrk/status/1328150499250610176 E: even worse, he's urging people to rise up against Michigan's governor Whitmer, who was the target of that kidnap plot that the FBI foiled not too long ago Snowglobe of Doom fucked around with this message at 13:16 on Nov 16, 2020 |
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Nov 16, 2020 09:51
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At first I thought it was about sacrificing people for “the economy” but it seems like it’s just sacrificing people for the sake of sacrificing people now.
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Nov 16, 2020 09:54
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Nov 16, 2020 13:11
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I guess we know why Pfizer's CEO dumped his stocks now. Stable at refrigerator temps, higher efficacy.
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Greatest Living Man posted:I guess we know why Pfizer's CEO dumped his stocks now. Stable at refrigerator temps, higher efficacy. Yeah, this seems like the much better vaccine. Still, having two very effective vaccines in less than a year is great news in any case.
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jokes posted:At first I thought it was about sacrificing people for “the economy” but it seems like it’s just sacrificing people for the sake of sacrificing people now.
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Another Bill posted:I mean, I knew Strugis was going to be bad but I didn't think it was going to be crumble-society-as-we-know-it in the midwest bad. I'm not convinced Sturgis is to blame for much. Did Sturgis cause the massive spike in Europe? This spike would have happened with or without Sturgis. Cold weather, kids going back to school etc etc.
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Nov 16, 2020 15:05
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Torrannor posted:Yeah, this seems like the much better vaccine. The Novavax one has the potential to be better than both.
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Nov 16, 2020 15:13
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CarlosTheDwarf posted:I'm not convinced Sturgis is to blame for much. Did Sturgis cause the massive spike in Europe? This spike would have happened with or without Sturgis. Cold weather, kids going back to school etc etc. I mostly agree with you. Sturgis definitely had an effect, as you can watch the cases per 100k explode outward from there in early August. However, a second spike was inevitable with kids in school, people switching to indoor activities due to cold, the election, and holidays. Sturgis just gave us a little push to get it to hit a little earlier and a little worse.
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Nov 16, 2020 15:16
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Has this been brought up here yet? https://nypost.com/2020/11/15/drug-cuts-covid-19-deaths-in-hospitalized-patients-by-two-thirds-study/ Seems promising.
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Gov Wolf (PA) is making some announcement this afternoon, my gf is convinced that he's announcing a new statewide lockdown but I haven't heard anything about that so who knows. We desperately need it though.
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