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Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
its not true, people without emotions or empathy are sometimes born like that. those would be natural liberals

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T-man
Aug 22, 2010


Talk shit, get bzzzt.

gradenko_2000 posted:

T-man once again with the objectively correct posts

thank you, I'm having a lovely day and this made me feel better

jarofpiss
May 16, 2009


this cuts out the best part where they stand the dude up and pray away his brain bleed

ToxicAcne
May 25, 2014
How did socialists of the past think about art? I feel like alot of modern socialists get caught up in bourgeois ideas of what is good art i.e labeling poo poo as low brow, middle brow, and high brow. Also a hot take, but alot of modern visualart is really rich people jerking themselves off. It's completely inaccessible to the vast majority of the population. As

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES
what is something labeled as lowbrow that you think deserves higher esteem

Victory Position
Mar 16, 2004

Larry Parrish posted:

its not true, people without emotions or empathy are sometimes born like that. those would be natural liberals

ToxicAcne
May 25, 2014
I recently had a discussion with someone who said that Coen Brothers films are middle row schlock, which is fine as an opinion but doesn't really reflect "popular art". Like even Shakespeare was middle brow schlock during his time.

Anyways that's the end of my rant.

jarofpiss
May 16, 2009

GalacticAcid posted:

what is something labeled as lowbrow that you think deserves higher esteem

tattooing

biceps crimes
Apr 12, 2008


GalacticAcid posted:

what is something labeled as lowbrow that you think deserves higher esteem

cum town

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

Sheng-Ji Yang posted:

theres a longer video where the dude who gets wiped out by the revcom guy was assaulting people all over.

i want to clarify that I support sign guy punching right wingers

exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.

ToxicAcne posted:

How did socialists of the past think about art? I feel like alot of modern socialists get caught up in bourgeois ideas of what is good art i.e labeling poo poo as low brow, middle brow, and high brow. Also a hot take, but alot of modern visualart is really rich people jerking themselves off. It's completely inaccessible to the vast majority of the population. As

just watch ways of seeing op

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
art is an entirely cultural phenomenon

Victory Position
Mar 16, 2004

Larry Parrish posted:

art is an entirely cultural phenomenon

it must have taken a lot of wine and a lot of convincing to tell someone to dig that marble out of the quarry to try and carve into a resemblance of the emperor's dick and balls

dex_sda
Oct 11, 2012


Victory Position posted:

it must have taken a lot of wine and a lot of convincing to tell someone to dig that marble out of the quarry to try and carve into a resemblance of the emperor's dick and balls

"cmon bro itll be fun. also ill pay u"
"ok"

ToxicAcne
May 25, 2014
How can that be the case? Art is intimately tied to the forces of production and realization. The bourgeoisie have turned stuff like Picasso paintings into another speculatory commodity.

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
i don't consider stuff directly made for money to be art and classic art speculation is just another bourgeoisie perversion and not really anything to do with the actual physical art. :agesilaus:

Truga
May 4, 2014
Lipstick Apathy

GalacticAcid posted:

what is something labeled as lowbrow that you think deserves higher esteem
this is tangentially related but lmao
https://mobile.twitter.com/g0m/status/1126268286663106561

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES
lol I never saw that, good post

Victory Position
Mar 16, 2004

Larry Parrish posted:

i don't consider stuff directly made for money to be art and classic art speculation is just another bourgeoisie perversion and not really anything to do with the actual physical art. :agesilaus:

I need to dig out my box of Baudrillard books one of these days

Trabisnikof
Dec 24, 2005

Larry Parrish posted:

i don't consider stuff directly made for money to be art and classic art speculation is just another bourgeoisie perversion and not really anything to do with the actual physical art. :agesilaus:

one of my favorite dinner party trolls is to defend the idea that it is art only if the creator didn't profit from the creation (including opportunity cost).

so Van Gough is art since he never sold his art for more than it cost to make. however Warhol was just Applied Art.

Truga
May 4, 2014
Lipstick Apathy
anyway, commie states gave us some amazing poo poo, such roadside picnic, tetris, the moscow metro, i-16, and laibach :v:

also an agressively mediocre karl marx anime

dex_sda
Oct 11, 2012


there's a karl marx anime?

Truga
May 4, 2014
Lipstick Apathy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Leader_(web_series)

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?
Roadside Picnic is deece idk about amazing

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
its probably a lot better in russian

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

Larry Parrish posted:

i don't consider stuff directly made for money to be art and classic art speculation is just another bourgeoisie perversion and not really anything to do with the actual physical art. :agesilaus:

how do you feel about works funded by patronage

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

or busking

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
i love lady gaga

exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.
imagine thinking cultural production isn't production.......

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Atrocious Joe posted:

how do you feel about works funded by patronage

patreon users, both customer and supplier, shall be thrown into a chasm

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?
onlyfans is crowdsourced patronage

T-man
Aug 22, 2010


Talk shit, get bzzzt.

making money? sounds pretty capitalist to me bucko. you posting on a soviet computer there? :downsowned:

Victory Position
Mar 16, 2004

T-man posted:

making money? sounds pretty capitalist to me bucko. you posting on a soviet computer there? :downsowned:

reverse Polish notation keyboard

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

T-man posted:

making money? sounds pretty capitalist to me bucko. you posting on a soviet computer there? :downsowned:

I watch a lot of retro computing videos and it kinda makes me sad thinking about the different ways computing could have gone under a Soviet system.

One of the stories I picked up was that back in the day, when we would use cassette tapes for data storage, Yugoslav stations would broadcast simple computer programs over the radio: they'd tell you when to press Record on your machine, you'd press it, and for the next few minutes, you'd be picking up analog data that could be read back by the computer when you played back the tape at a later time.

Poniard
Apr 3, 2011



downloading tetris on tape

T-man
Aug 22, 2010


Talk shit, get bzzzt.

computer programming but there's no copyright law :wiggle:

jarofpiss
May 16, 2009

gradenko_2000 posted:

I watch a lot of retro computing videos and it kinda makes me sad thinking about the different ways computing could have gone under a Soviet system.

One of the stories I picked up was that back in the day, when we would use cassette tapes for data storage, Yugoslav stations would broadcast simple computer programs over the radio: they'd tell you when to press Record on your machine, you'd press it, and for the next few minutes, you'd be picking up analog data that could be read back by the computer when you played back the tape at a later time.

yeah but we got mailed an AOL cd every 3 days here

Mr. Lobe
Feb 23, 2007

... Dry bones...


gradenko_2000 posted:

I watch a lot of retro computing videos and it kinda makes me sad thinking about the different ways computing could have gone under a Soviet system.

One of the stories I picked up was that back in the day, when we would use cassette tapes for data storage, Yugoslav stations would broadcast simple computer programs over the radio: they'd tell you when to press Record on your machine, you'd press it, and for the next few minutes, you'd be picking up analog data that could be read back by the computer when you played back the tape at a later time.

I wonder what the bitrate is on an AM/FM radio broadcast. WiFi is not that different in sampling frequency, and that can carry gigabits of data. I'd imagine transmission quality would be a major issue. But I'm no engineer, I'm just speculating here.

Doc Hawkins
Jun 15, 2010

Dashing? But I'm not even moving!


indigi posted:

what does this mean (I'm not going to google it.)

"where we go one, we go all." it's an expression of faith in the q cult. their shahada, essentially.

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dead gay comedy forums
Oct 21, 2011


this is my dumbass self realizing the existence of this thread

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