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EmmyOk
Aug 11, 2013

Shanks has three named guys and then rockstar, so she’s a bit lower than that yeah. Would kaido send her as an envoy to an emperor I think not

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Funky Valentine
Feb 26, 2014

Dojyaa~an

Comparing Pay-Pay and Ulti to Lucky Roux is an insult to Lucky Roux.

EmmyOk
Aug 11, 2013

Roux Beckmann and Yassop are his top three then Rockstar is all his Tobiroppo in one

Silver2195
Apr 4, 2012
The way Sengoku (I think) talked about the Red Hair Pirates (something like "no weak links in his crew") made it sound like all ~10 of them are at least Sweet Commander/Calamity level. They would probably have to be, to keep up with the much larger crews of the other Emperors, especially since Shanks individually doesn't get the kind of hype ("World's Strongest Man"/"World's Strongest Creature"/"Natural Born Destroyer") the other Emperors do.

MonsterEnvy
Feb 4, 2012

Shocked I tell you
There are more then 10 members of the Red Hair Pirates. And Shanks is an Emperor with dominated territory.

Sub Harrison
May 2, 2013

Beckmann and Lucky Roux are Shanks' Zoro and Sanji tier. Toni Robbo are Franky tier.

S) Luffy
A) Zoro Sanji Jinbei
B) Franky
C) Chopper Usopp Brooke Nami Robin

Dr Subterfuge
Aug 31, 2005

TIME TO ROC N' ROLL
I dunno, I think Franky might be stronger than Sanji at this point.

Funky Valentine
Feb 26, 2014

Dojyaa~an

SSS) Lucky Roux
S) Shanks
A) Ben Beckmann, Yasopp
B) that monkey
C) the rest
D) the boat
E) Rockstar

Countblanc
Apr 20, 2005

Help a hero out!
Does anyone in shanks crew have a fruit that we know of

TheLoneStar
Feb 9, 2017

EmmyOk posted:

Perospero with the infallible logic of a total oval office was amazing lol
He was right, at least.

Countblanc posted:

Does anyone in shanks crew have a fruit that we know of
No, none that have been confirmed. I hope that remains the case. An Emperor's crew that's as strong as they are with their natural abilities would be great.

Lpzie
Nov 20, 2006

CodfishCartographer posted:

Chapter 1000 will be the void chapter. After 999 we'll just go straight to ch 1001

im liking this, but after 999, we go straight to ch 2000. it's just the SHs, maybe age 30 causetwo more time skips happened, and they're on a spaceship going to some planet. no explanation why, or how they got there.

grieving for Gandalf
Apr 22, 2008

after 999, it goes to 0

Kild
Apr 24, 2010

Go full Kubo and do negative chapters.

oddium
Feb 21, 2006

end of the 4.5 tatami age

there already was a chapter 0, 999 will be the 1000th

oddium
Feb 21, 2006

end of the 4.5 tatami age

Sub Harrison posted:

Beckmann and Lucky Roux are Shanks' Zoro and Sanji tier. Toni Robbo are Franky tier.

S) Luffy
A) Zoro Sanji Jinbei
B) Franky
C) Chopper Usopp Brooke Nami Robin

zoro is definitely ahead of jinbei who is ahead of sanji. sanji's big moments lately have been: losing to judge, losing to king

Mraagvpeine
Nov 4, 2014

I won this avatar on a technicality this thick.

ZiegeDame posted:

Clearly the virus only affects humans, not reindeer.

But isn't Chopper in half-human form right now?

Libra
Jan 5, 2011

The solution to the ice oni virus was basically spelled out. Everyone just needs to shed their flesh and skin and organs like Brook.

Wachter
Mar 23, 2007

You and whose knees?

Yeah okay I'm being disingenuous by comparing Usopp and Nami to Beckman but my point still stands: they seem ridiculously outclassed. Usopp had the most badass moment in Dressrosa and Nami helped Luffy take down Cracker in Whole Cake; these aren't characters who deserve to be jobbed off camera. Big Mom reclaiming Zeus is particularly frustrating.

If the Straw Hats are being set up as a crew who can potentially square up to Yonkou then they have to do something rather than just sit around crying until someone bails them out.

Of course it's One Piece and everyone has infinite stamina so they could still win their fights I suppose

Crosspeice
Aug 9, 2013

"How ironic, despite being dead, he was the only one who lived."

Eustace
Feb 26, 2009
Settle down you nerds, the arc isnt even over yet

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

Eustace posted:

Settle down you nerds, the arc isnt even over yet

Yeah there is a chance Luffy loses a second time like alabasta

Dr Subterfuge
Aug 31, 2005

TIME TO ROC N' ROLL

Eustace posted:

Settle down you nerds, the arc isnt even over yet

Yeah we just skipped the boring parts of the fight before the tables turn:

Guy A. Person posted:

Yeah this is basically the exact setup that was used multiple times in Enies Lobby where at various points we cut to Nami, Usopp and even Sanji seemingly defeated at the feet of their respective opponents only for something to intervene and give them an opportunity to swap opponents or regain the upper hand.

It's a technique Oda uses a lot, instead of spending time showing the heroes lose ground and end up on their back foot, just cut right to them already on their back foot and show the more interesting part of them rallying.

Wachter
Mar 23, 2007

You and whose knees?

I am 100% on board for a classic table-turning and I'll be back here singing Oda-sensei's praises if it happens

Doctor_Fruitbat
Jun 2, 2013


It will be absolutely loving criminal if Nami doesn't get to steal back Zeus.

Asuron
Nov 27, 2012

Wachter posted:

Yeah okay I'm being disingenuous by comparing Usopp and Nami to Beckman but my point still stands: they seem ridiculously outclassed. Usopp had the most badass moment in Dressrosa and Nami helped Luffy take down Cracker in Whole Cake; these aren't characters who deserve to be jobbed off camera. Big Mom reclaiming Zeus is particularly frustrating.

If the Straw Hats are being set up as a crew who can potentially square up to Yonkou then they have to do something rather than just sit around crying until someone bails them out.

Of course it's One Piece and everyone has infinite stamina so they could still win their fights I suppose

The fights not over, I don’t understand the issue here?

Super Rad
Feb 15, 2003
Sir Loin of Beef

Doctor_Fruitbat posted:

It will be absolutely loving criminal if Nami doesn't get to steal back Zeus.

Even Vegas wouldn't take those odds - Nami's gonna be BFFs with Zeus again soon... probably Prometheus too.

Meme Emulator
Oct 4, 2000

Doctor_Fruitbat posted:

Ulti's so fun, I hope we get to see her big monster mash face.

Ultis mask should only come off in an SBS 10 volumes after Wano ends, and it should be a gag

Remalle
Feb 12, 2020


Ulti's mask comes off, revealing a pair of Doflamingo's shades

oddium
Feb 21, 2006

end of the 4.5 tatami age

if nami doesn't get zeus back i'm going to freaking. gah !!

Eiba
Jul 26, 2007


Eustace posted:

Settle down you nerds, the arc isnt even over yet
For real. This is the act that ends in tragedy too, right?

But even if it wasn't... if feels like people have never seen Ussop before. Remember how lame he felt in Dressrossa when his big thing was losing to Trebol and accidentally knocking out Sugar? How lame, it's a shame that was the last thing he did that arc.

Or how people were complaining all the way back in Enies Lobby that he didn't get a fight, despite being super cool and shooting the keys to Robin so she could take out Spandam?

"Oh man, Ussop's character growth took a few steps back" is appropriate criticism for after the arc. Who knows. It still might happen. But it 100% hasn't happened yet so the criticism is incredibly lame. It's going to be like Enies Lobby where people kept saying "Ussop's gotta do something this cool to make up for how lame he's been. Oh he only did something that cool? Meh." If you're determined to hate on Ussop, you're gonna be disappointed at whatever he does. Chill. Let it play out. Ussop's whole thing is, and always has been, appearing really lame, and then despite his nature, pulling something amazing off. All the way back to his amazing fight with Chu in Arlong Park.

I'll totally admit he was lame after this arc is done if, after this arc is done, he's actually lame. Calling him lame now is completely uncalled for and myopic.

Electric Phantasm
Apr 7, 2011

YOSPOS

Nami is going to get back Zeus and get Prometheus AND get Big Mom's fruit somehow

Huzzah!
Sep 15, 2007

Malnutrition is scarier than any beastie.

Electric Phantasm posted:

Nami is going to get back Zeus and get Prometheus AND get Big Mom's fruit somehow

Big Nam(i)

RealFoxy
May 11, 2011

I'm not making a fucking QCS thread for this but seriously can we take a harder stance on Kiwifarms freaks like this guy, Jesus Christ seriously, you used to be better at knocking these creeps down. I guess ADTRW mods aren't responsible like GBS mods are.
Straw Hat crew is still kinda hard to judge based on power levels. Sanji keeps attacking people way out of his league and losing, Zoro keeps fighting people way beneath him and barely lifting a finger. Brooke has shot way up because Big Mom's Devil Fruit and Queen's poison do nothing against him but he's really not taking one on one fights, just surviving things by circumstance. We still have no gauge on how strong Jinbei is, because he's never had a one on one that mattered either.

I'd say outside of Luffy/Sanji/Zoro/Jinbei the rest of the crew are just specialists and we'll probably keep seeing them in those roles. Ussop has defeated two really broken Devil Fruit users already in a way only he can, Franky seems like he can handle himself but isn't going after top tier opponents, Robin seems to be content with gathering Intel, Chopper and Nami are uh......Navigating and Doctoring.

One Piece has a massive cast of characters, it's kind of hard to give all of them a spotlight but I feel like Oda's fights have just been secondary lately to the worldbuilding/lore. Compared to My Hero Academy where even minor characters can get good fights based off their quirks/abilities, I don't think the Straw Hats have been used to their potential since Enies Lobby.

Electric Phantasm posted:

Nami is going to get back Zeus and get Prometheus AND get Big Mom's fruit somehow
But what about Monet's fruit that's definitely growing on Nami's orange tree on the ship???

Electric Phantasm
Apr 7, 2011

YOSPOS

Nami infuses it with a soul and now Monet is back as an orange.

Last Celebration
Mar 30, 2010

RealFoxy posted:

Straw Hat crew is still kinda hard to judge based on power levels. Sanji keeps attacking people way out of his league and losing, Zoro keeps fighting people way beneath him and barely lifting a finger. Brooke has shot way up because Big Mom's Devil Fruit and Queen's poison do nothing against him but he's really not taking one on one fights, just surviving things by circumstance. We still have no gauge on how strong Jinbei is, because he's never had a one on one that mattered either.

I'd say outside of Luffy/Sanji/Zoro/Jinbei the rest of the crew are just specialists and we'll probably keep seeing them in those roles. Ussop has defeated two really broken Devil Fruit users already in a way only he can, Franky seems like he can handle himself but isn't going after top tier opponents, Robin seems to be content with gathering Intel, Chopper and Nami are uh......Navigating and Doctoring.

Tbh I feel like the power levels are mostly consistent with what we’ve seen of the crew preskip since Sanji’s generally always had a glass jaw compared to Luffy/Zoro; Luffy and Zoro are the monster duo, Sanji is OU BL, Franky, Brook and Robin are pretty capable in a fight even if they can’t wreak the mayhem Luffy/Zoro/Jinbei can, and Nami/Chopper/Usopp are the weaklings who are still way stronger than any normal person.

Sanji used to be more likable but tbh he’s never really had consistently strong showings the way Luffy and Zoro have.

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012
Usopp and Nami have never had any particular talent for close-in brawling, but that doesn't make them weak overall. They need planning, preparation, and a generous dose of opportunism to properly gently caress people up, but when they do, the results are spectacular. They're the artillery stuck on the front lines. Of course things are going badly for them at the moment.

Eustace
Feb 26, 2009
Where are people getting that sanji lost to king? They havent even really fought yet, Sanji just got knocked down and came up completely unscathed thanks to the suit

mabels big day
Feb 25, 2012

was rereading wano to remember details on act 2, and I came across this bit of foreshadowing

A Bug
Nov 26, 2008

MOM GET THE CAMERA!
:potg:
Can't wait for Carrot to get Kanjuro's devil fruit so we get weaponized shoujo drawings.

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Teriyaki Koinku
Nov 25, 2008

Bread! Bread! Bread!

Bread! BREAD! BREAD!
Here's a crazy theory, guys, just hear me out...

Kai D. Ou

Kai means something-or-other (like King Kai) in Japanese, and Ou means king. I think I'm onto something here.

Teriyaki Koinku fucked around with this message at 00:35 on Nov 18, 2020

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