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ContinuityNewTimes
Dec 30, 2010

Я выдуман напрочь

keep punching joe posted:

Not surprised to hear that, have you had any contact with http://www.englishscotsforyes.org/ out of interest?

Not that I'm aware of

430 is the number of seats the NIP is going to win at the next general election

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Nothingtoseehere
Nov 11, 2010


Finally, a goon political party.

ContinuityNewTimes
Dec 30, 2010

Я выдуман напрочь

Nothingtoseehere posted:

Finally, a goon political party.

Gaming chairs on the nhs

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
https://twitter.com/wariotifo/status/1328687036228923393?s=20

edit: its a reference to this

https://twitter.com/l_attfield/status/1328668621355298823?s=20

Jose fucked around with this message at 14:22 on Nov 17, 2020

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

The slightest touch from a Gol-Shogeg will result in Instant Death!
ahahaha that reads like a loving parody

gently caress var of piss in the ear

Also how is his stupid loving thing gonna deal with candidates who weren't old enough to call for the xpulsion of militant?

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
great to see what twitter really though its majority user base wanted was for nazi's to be able to tweet offensive bannable stuff at people in a way that vanishes before they can get banned. jack really loves his nazis

https://twitter.com/TwitterComms/status/1328685679367294976?s=20

Doctor_Fruitbat
Jun 2, 2013


Continuity RCP posted:

Excellent work by Njan

The NIP was absolutely not started as a joke, we just did some jokey stuff with our first twitter material.

For people who were asking what the left should do if they abandon Labour: it's this kind of thing.

jabby
Oct 27, 2010

Honestly the idea of independent disciplinary body is ridiculous from the start. Nobody is independent of political opinion, and only centrists/'moderates' are dumb enough to think they are.

sebzilla
Mar 17, 2009

Kid's blasting everything in sight with that new-fangled musket.


Doctor_Fruitbat posted:

For people who were asking what the left should do if they abandon Labour: it's this kind of thing.

What if you live in a part of the country with little to no regional identity?

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

sebzilla posted:

What if you live in a part of the country with little to no regional identity?

owned lol

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

The slightest touch from a Gol-Shogeg will result in Instant Death!

Jose posted:

great to see what twitter really though its majority user base wanted was for nazi's to be able to tweet offensive bannable stuff at people in a way that vanishes before they can get banned. jack really loves his nazis

https://twitter.com/TwitterComms/status/1328685679367294976?s=20

wasn't this what twitter was always supposed to be int he first place? An ephemeral communication method?

Wonder how soon it'll be before it turns out they save every single fleet so that they can be used in evidence for libel trials or whatever.

His Divine Shadow
Aug 7, 2000

I'm not a fascist. I'm a priest. Fascists dress up in black and tell people what to do.

Jose posted:

great to see what twitter really though its majority user base wanted was for nazi's to be able to tweet offensive bannable stuff at people in a way that vanishes before they can get banned. jack really loves his nazis

https://twitter.com/TwitterComms/status/1328685679367294976?s=20

Someone has already started building a service that thrawls through and autosaves fleets for posterity.

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

The slightest touch from a Gol-Shogeg will result in Instant Death!

Oh holy poo poo I just noticed the Bevin/Bevan question.

Like.

I've never loving heard of Bevin, I had to look him up and he seems fine, but Bevan was instrumental in probably the single biggest socialist AND Labour achievement... ever, in the entire world.

But then, Akehurst isn't a socialist, is he?

josh04
Oct 19, 2008


"THE FLASH IS THE REASON
TO RACE TO THE THEATRES"

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Oh, Bevin is the one that Lord Adonis keeps shilling his lovely hagiography of.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
akehurst loving loves bombing brown people and selling weapons to make bombing brown people easier. he's really, really unpleasant even among the labour right

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


thespaceinvader posted:

Oh holy poo poo I just noticed the Bevin/Bevan question.

Like.

I've never loving heard of Bevin, I had to look him up and he seems fine, but Bevan was instrumental in probably the single biggest socialist AND Labour achievement... ever, in the entire world.

But then, Akehurst isn't a socialist, is he?

Bevin was a huge figure in the Labour Party but guarantee all Akehurst knows about him is he was on the right of Labour because his understanding of politics is infantile

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

I'm not sure that making the north independent would achieve the socialist revolution the NIP wants.

ContinuityNewTimes
Dec 30, 2010

Я выдуман напрочь

OwlFancier posted:

I'm not sure that making the north independent would achieve the socialist revolution the NIP wants.

We're not trying to establish a Soviet, we'd like to have a working NHS and maybe some nice trains

E: and not murder the poor

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


Continuity RCP posted:

We're not trying to establish a Soviet, we'd like to have a working NHS and maybe some nice trains

E: and not murder the poor

Good to have a long term goal though. Don't end up with the SNP obsession about a broad church

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

OwlFancier posted:

I'm not sure that making the north independent would achieve the socialist revolution the NIP wants.

gonna have to cut boro off from the north for this

Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

c l o u d k i t t e n
Grimey Drawer

OwlFancier posted:

I'm not sure that making the north independent would achieve the socialist revolution the NIP wants.

You just don't call your policies 'socialist'. You instead implement good working class policies such as free public travel, healthcare, public housing, strong welfare systems. All good manly working class British stuff.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Yes but what I mean is I don't really see a link between independence > better government.

ContinuityNewTimes
Dec 30, 2010

Я выдуман напрочь

Regarde Aduck posted:

You just don't call your policies 'socialist'. You instead implement good working class policies such as free public travel, healthcare, public housing, strong welfare systems. All good manly working class British stuff.

This is essentially our plan.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

OwlFancier posted:

Yes but what I mean is I don't really see a link between independence > better government.
I think it's mostly a reminder that Westminster can't take the North for granted, and if it continues to then there's an alternative.

ContinuityNewTimes
Dec 30, 2010

Я выдуман напрочь

OwlFancier posted:

Yes but what I mean is I don't really see a link between independence > better government.

The idea is that a northern government won't be neglecting the north, or offering Manchester a poverty furlough in the middle of a pandemic

Ash Crimson
Apr 4, 2010

Continuity RCP posted:

This is essentially our plan.

leaking this to the guardian and you will be arrested for communism

ContinuityNewTimes
Dec 30, 2010

Я выдуман напрочь

Ash Crimson posted:

leaking this to the guardian and you will be arrested for communism

Our MI5 officer already knows

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!

thespaceinvader posted:

Oh holy poo poo I just noticed the Bevin/Bevan question.

Like.

I've never loving heard of Bevin, I had to look him up and he seems fine, but Bevan was instrumental in probably the single biggest socialist AND Labour achievement... ever, in the entire world.


Ernie Bevin was the 'Bevin's Boys' guy - where men were conscripted to work in the coal mines.

ED: interesting, just looked him up on Wiki: "According to declassified British intelligence files, the Irgun and Lehi attempted to assassinate Bevin himself in 1946.[43][44][45]"

Jaeluni Asjil fucked around with this message at 15:52 on Nov 17, 2020

Skarsnik
Oct 21, 2008

I...AM...RUUUDE!




https://news.sky.com/story/officer-may-be-sacked-for-sticking-7p-carrot-barcode-on-krispy-kreme-doughnuts-box-12134500

ACAB?

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
https://twitter.com/laurenevie_/status/1328411260023672833

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

I think if the last few years have demonstrated anything it's that people are very good at projecting human traits onto orange things.

suck my woke dick
Oct 10, 2012

:siren:I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!:siren:

Put this cum-loving slave on ignore immediately!

but those carrots are white

Borrovan
Aug 15, 2013

IT IS ME.
🧑‍💼
I AM THERESA MAY


jabby posted:

Nobody is independent of political opinion, and only centrists/'moderates' are dumb enough to think they are.
Hence the spreadsheet:-
Liking Corbyn=bias, CoI, unfit to make decisions;
Disliking Corbyn=Just Common Sense

e: I've put together a spreadsheet of every1 in the UK & it turns out that the only person fit to make impartial decisions is *opens envelope* ...me? Well, it was unexpected but not undeserved

Borrovan fucked around with this message at 16:26 on Nov 17, 2020

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

suck my woke dick posted:

but those carrots are white

Boris Johnson posted:

Looking at the diverse wedding crowd, and thinking of this planet's multicultural future, I have been brooding about carrots. It is a fact that the British carrot used to be white. It was a pale, delicate, Anglo-Saxon root. As anyone who has eaten Indian carrot halva will know, Indian carrots are red, the colour of blood oranges. It probably follows that at some stage the dark red carrots of the subcontinent cross-fertilised with our indigenous carrots, to produce the modern orange cross. Yes, folks, the next time you chomp on a carrot, reflect that it is a half-caste. It is the result of rampant miscegenation. Look at the modern British carrot, and you behold the future of the human race.

bump_fn
Apr 12, 2004

two of them
we did it guys

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

I assume he was busy banging an Indian woman when he wrote this?

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

Independent Peoples Republic of London Party when

Edit: also miscegenation is great can recommend op

suck my woke dick
Oct 10, 2012

:siren:I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!:siren:

Put this cum-loving slave on ignore immediately!

Borrovan posted:

Hence the spreadsheet:-
Liking Corbyn=bias, CoI, unfit to make decisions;
Disliking Corbyn=Just Common Sense

e: I've put together a spreadsheet of every1 in the UK & it turns out that the only person fit to make impartial decisions is *opens envelope* ...me? Well, it was unexpected but not undeserved

what if someone joins labour now and writes "to end capitalism, vote against the useless centrists and nationalise jezza" into the text box

do they just immediately get kicked back out

Borrovan
Aug 15, 2013

IT IS ME.
🧑‍💼
I AM THERESA MAY


feedmegin posted:

Independent Peoples Republic of London Party when
Be the change (unironically, this would be awesome)

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Breath Ray
Nov 19, 2010

ronya posted:

the goss seems to suggest that tactically a big chunk of the party leadership really believed post-2017 narratives that people don't care about Brexit and care about cuts to local services, and assumed this would continue to be true even as the deadline loomed

the other chunk really believed that hyper-cautious triangulation wot won it

we're talking Corbyn loyalists here, not the PLP

given the two, Corbyn was never really going to embrace Brexit - the choices were between continued triangulation or continued triangulation with a different messaging. Neither would have risked allowing the party membership to force an unambiguously pro-EU position either

it might cheer my fellow corbyn-friendly lexiters to read in https://www.prospectmagazine.co.uk/magazine/who-killed-soft-brexit-eu-european-union-no-deal that it was starmer the charmer who pushed jerermy towards the doomed strategy of the People's Vote

Jill Rutter and Anand Menon posted:

Labour was of course divided. While some at least talked about compromise, others hoped stalemate would reopen the door for Remain. The People’s Vote campaign was able, by March 2019, to organise a huge protest through central London as well as a petition signed by six million people—displaying a passion for EU membership never before seen in Britain. The hope of many who took to the streets was that this could be converted into a mandate to end the Brexit process. Yet to achieve this, it was as important for the People’s Vote crowd as it was for the ERG Brexit ultras to kill off the idea of a soft Brexit. Unreconciled Labour Remainers like David Lammy and Ben Bradshaw (together with Conservatives like Dominic Grieve, and also the Liberal Democrats) played their part in ensuring that, when parliament held “indicative votes” to test which options might carry support, various soft Brexit compromises went down to defeat. Sadly for them, so too did the proposal for another referendum. All British politicians could agree on, it seemed, was to agree on nothing. Ultimately Keir Starmer, then Labour’s Brexit spokesman, used the paralysis to wear Corbyn down until he accepted a People’s Vote as the Labour platform—hoping that the cul-de-sac would turn into an exit route from Brexit. It was a high-stakes, winner-takes-all gamble—and they lost, with a softer Brexit being the collateral damage.

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