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Was there ever an episode in any of the Trek series where all the aliens were effected by something and the human(s) of the group was the only one who was unaffected enough to save the day?
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Nov 19, 2020 03:30
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Chomp8645 posted:Was there ever an episode in any of the Trek series where all the aliens were effected by something and the human(s) of the group was the only one who was unaffected enough to save the day? This is more up Farscape's alley.
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Nov 19, 2020 03:40
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Chomp8645 posted:Was there ever an episode in any of the Trek series where all the aliens were effected by something and the human(s) of the group was the only one who was unaffected enough to save the day? yea this was the whole viidian arc in voyager
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Nov 19, 2020 03:41
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Chomp8645 posted:Was there ever an episode in any of the Trek series where all the aliens were effected by something and the human(s) of the group was the only one who was unaffected enough to save the day? Crighton's eyesight was so poor compared to the other character on Moya that he was going slightly less insane.
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Nov 19, 2020 03:56
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Trast posted:Crighton's eyesight was so poor compared to the other character on Moya that he was going slightly less insane. Who are you calling "deficient!?"
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Nov 19, 2020 04:20
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thinking about the notion in star trek and other sci fi where there are races that seemingly have a monolithic division of labor, e.g., a race of bounty hunters, a race of warriors, a race of farmers, a race of computer programmers, a race of pro wrestlers, etc. and wondering if there is room for a race of pornographers
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Nov 19, 2020 04:29
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Mulaney Power Move posted:thinking about the notion in star trek and other sci fi where there are races that seemingly have a monolithic division of labor, e.g., a race of bounty hunters, a race of warriors, a race of farmers, a race of computer programmers, a race of pro wrestlers, etc. and wondering if there is room for a race of pornographers Didn't they have that on the Orville? Or was it just the one guy?
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Nov 19, 2020 04:41
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not while worf has access to a climate control machine
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Nov 19, 2020 04:42
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GolfHole posted:1 god 1 starship 1 bridge 1 bridge 1 Riker, 1 bridge!!! [growls in Klingon]
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Nov 19, 2020 04:47
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Mulaney Power Move posted:thinking about the notion in star trek and other sci fi where there are races that seemingly have a monolithic division of labor, e.g., a race of bounty hunters, a race of warriors, a race of farmers, a race of computer programmers, a race of pro wrestlers, etc. and wondering if there is room for a race of pornographers That’s humans.
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Nov 19, 2020 04:51
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a race of pro bassmasters. terroforming planets into artificial bass environments and holding tournaments.
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Nov 19, 2020 05:02
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Mulaney Power Move posted:thinking about the notion in star trek and other sci fi where there are races that seemingly have a monolithic division of labor, e.g., a race of bounty hunters, a race of warriors, a race of farmers, a race of computer programmers, a race of pro wrestlers, etc. and wondering if there is room for a race of pornographers Those blond people in jumpers who get killed if they crush flowers. Edit: Also Risans.
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Nov 19, 2020 06:24
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gimme the GOD drat candy posted:it's interesting to compare crusher and geordi. there's no fundamental difference between how they solved problems: technobabble, technobabble, and more technobabble. flipside: Geordi managed to not get haunted by Casper the Horny Ghost which probably makes them about even. Johnny Aztec posted:They should never have made it possible to "come back" from being Borged.
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Nov 19, 2020 07:55
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Bev owned, she is the best doctor and as much as I liked Siddig, Bashir is probs the worst. Though I like his holodeck Bond eps but that's more due to Garak.
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Nov 19, 2020 09:28
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Johnny Aztec posted:They should never have made it possible to "come back" from being Borged. I thought Voyager did the 7 of 9 arc pretty well. She's never quite human again, there's a constant push/pull over individual vs the collective and Jeri Ryan sells the role pretty well.
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Nov 19, 2020 09:33
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Dr. Yinz Ljubljana posted:I thought Voyager did the 7 of 9 arc pretty well. She's never quite human again, there's a constant push/pull over individual vs the collective and Jeri Ryan sells the role pretty well. Lol no. Jeri Ryan performs well episode-to-episode, but Seven-of-Nine develops and reverts in her development randomly as the plot demands.
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Nov 19, 2020 10:00
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Chomp8645 posted:Was there ever an episode in any of the Trek series where all the aliens were effected by something and the human(s) of the group was the only one who was unaffected enough to save the day? Enterprise had an episode of T'Pol going nuts because of some compound that only affects Vulcans I think
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Nov 19, 2020 11:53
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Space Madness seems like a good reason for a multi-species crew.
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Nov 19, 2020 12:08
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Flipswitch posted:Bev owned, she is the best doctor and as much as I liked Siddig, Bashir is probs the worst. bashir was murdered far more thoroughly than jadzia. fuckin' genetic engineering out of nowhere.
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Nov 19, 2020 12:09
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Yeah that character arc sucked rear end but I think also kinda works as his earlier stuff where Siddig played him awkwardly means he didn't try to hide his augments as much or something. Maybe I'm giving it too much credit. At least he had more to do in Ds9 than game of thrones lol
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Nov 19, 2020 18:39
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womb with a view posted:To be fair, she was right, Data wouldn't have felt anything about her being mean to him That's the thing though. Data does have emotions. He has faith that he's not just a computer. He tries and wants to fit in and feels a need to do that. He feels bad when he hurts others and he feels concern about his friends' wellbeing. He misses people and likes some people's company over the company of others. He felt visibly hurt, however slightly, when his mother said in the cavern about leaving him behind (the second time, not the time in ten forward). It has been shown, time and time again, that Data does have emotions. And with Pulaski, he felt a need to display to her that he was not a robot, and did not like her using the wrong pronunciation of his name. Someone completely without emotions wouldn't do any of that. There is no need to correct Pulaski about his name, there is no logical reason for him to want to be human versus accepting he is a computer, for missing people or preferring one person over another, or wanting to fit in. And there wasn't a logical reason for going into Starfleet, his reason was emotional -- they turned him on (not sexually lmao) and saved him, and he felt ties towards their benefaction, that's an emotional reason. In addition, it is clear he has sexuality and emotions because otherwise the alcohol virus could not have affected him. It's also referenced by his mother that Soong gave him sexuality, and a creative drive. I argue that someone without emotions would not feel the need to have sex regardless of how much alcohol had lowered their inhibitions, especially when the priorities he had were ensuring the safety of the crew, and helping Doctor Crusher work on a vaccine. What he doesn't have is emotional extremes. He can't get frustrated and doesn't jump to feeling angry or happy. He doesn't feel elated, he is just content. All of his emotions are extremely muted, but they exist. alexandriao fucked around with this message at 19:35 on Nov 19, 2020 |
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Nov 19, 2020 19:32
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alexandriao posted:Data does have emotions.  he was just more aware of his internal processes than other people and thought feelings were magic
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Nov 19, 2020 19:39
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oh but seriously I posted:
Ahh that's such a good way to frame it! Yeah! He's extremely sensitive to how other people feel and behave, and picks up on anomalies very easily. Just because he is doing statistical correlation and developing theories by hand, doesn't mean poo poo because that's also what your brain is doing, you just don't notice it. Comparing knowledge and inferences you have observed and built and correcting them with new observation, while using those as predictions to figure out how your friend is going to react, and whether how they are reacting right now matches with what you have observed previously. Neddy Seagoon posted:Lol no. Jeri Ryan performs well episode-to-episode, but Seven-of-Nine develops and reverts in her development randomly as the plot demands. Uhhhh, do you think recovering from trauma is a straight linear graph? It's more of a spiral. You get better then something happens and you instinctively revert to old ways of being, then you realise and get better and you figure out how to stop that from happening again. You will forget stuff you learned last week because it's habit for you to not do xyz, or it still feels strange and human memory is super malleable :/ Sure this is partly a lovely plot, but it's also unintentionally realistic. alexandriao fucked around with this message at 19:51 on Nov 19, 2020 |
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Nov 19, 2020 19:46
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You have plenty of De-borg'ed people examples that were just fine. 7of9's deal was that she was borged when she was a small child
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Nov 19, 2020 20:01
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Uh, Picard clearly said that there was no way of de-Borging someone in First Contact, and then he shot a guy in the process of being Borged
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Nov 19, 2020 20:20
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Mulaney Power Move posted:thinking about the notion in star trek and other sci fi where there are races that seemingly have a monolithic division of labor, e.g., a race of bounty hunters, a race of warriors, a race of farmers, a race of computer programmers, a race of pro wrestlers, etc. and wondering if there is room for a race of pornographers I might be hallucinating, but didn't Space Quest have a race of Sleazenaks or whatever?
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Nov 19, 2020 20:45
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Flipswitch posted:At least he had more to do in Ds9 than game of thrones lol I did not recognize him in GoT. That's wild.
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Nov 19, 2020 21:52
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infernal machines posted:Uh, Picard clearly said that there was no way of de-Borging someone in First Contact, and then he shot a guy in the process of being Borged The only ethical de-assimilation is my de-assimilation.
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Nov 19, 2020 22:33
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Johnny Aztec posted:You have plenty of De-borg'ed people examples that were just fine. They all had trauma, iirc. Picard being a notable example, even if he repressed it. infernal machines posted:Uh, Picard clearly said that there was no way of de-Borging someone in First Contact, and then he shot a guy in the process of being Borged No he said that they wouldn't want to be de-Borged. Which is uhhh. rich coming from someome who has been de-Borged and lived a full life afterwards Also kudos to my phone's autocorrect for putting de-Borged in as an autocomplete for "de-" after using it once.
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Nov 19, 2020 23:30
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"This place will be completely filled with enterprises within three days" is a gem of a line imho
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Nov 19, 2020 23:32
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alexandriao posted:Ahh that's such a good way to frame it! Yeah! I do wonder how much was intended, and how much was just a byproduct of the character being kind of impossible on paper.
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Nov 20, 2020 00:11
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I always just felt like those were reactions data had to try and mimic humanity. Basically trying to fake it till you make it. Cause when he gets his 2nd girlfriend and they break up he basically just deletes all the girlfriend routines and 
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Nov 20, 2020 00:14
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MikeJF posted:Crusher's big trait people often forget was that she was the absolutely morally incorruptible one, even compared to everyone else on the Enterprise-D. Other people would be like 'hmm maybe we should turn this disconnected borg drone into a weapon' and she's like 'dude no gently caress you he has rights'. When Worf wanted to kill himself Picard was pretty much okay with it lol
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Nov 20, 2020 00:22
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwtcNhA72zk Oh Odo, you just can't stop being a cop.
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Nov 20, 2020 00:22
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the best thing about data being an an android is that it countermanded all of spiner's dogshit terrible acting instincts
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Nov 20, 2020 00:22
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oh but seriously I posted:the best thing about data being an an android is that it countermanded all of spiner's dogshit terrible acting instincts 
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Nov 20, 2020 00:33
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I can't recall seeing spiner in anything else where he did badly tho
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Nov 20, 2020 00:33
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CainFortea posted:I can't recall seeing spiner in anything else where he did badly tho The Star trek movies?
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Nov 20, 2020 00:35
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CainFortea posted:I can't recall seeing spiner in anything else
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Drink-Mix Man posted:The Star trek movies? Eh. He was fine. Enterprise ID4 He was one of the voices in Gargoyles (like most of the rest of the cast)
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Nov 20, 2020 00:43
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