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klosterdev posted:Bob (wear your mask) don't you work for a hospital or mental health facility or something? And they're saving its impossible their employees in a Healthcare facility couldn't catch it at work? quote:Will we get the COVID-19 vaccine? If so, will WORKPLACE require staff across the facility to be vaccinated? If we’ve already been positively diagnosed with COVID, do we need to be vaccinated? Once vaccinated, do we still need to wear masks? Also, re: mandatory PTO becuase of business being down quote:When will the mandatory time off end? Are holidays counted as days in this mandatory time?
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# ? Nov 19, 2020 13:44 |
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# ? May 28, 2024 10:47 |
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If they're going to pull that horseshit they can at least do what my workplace is doing and letting all employees go to negative two weeks of sick time with no consequences. (unless they quit before getting back to zero, in which the difference will be deducted from the last paycheck)
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# ? Nov 19, 2020 16:52 |
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The Iron Rose posted:Something similar happened to me and I had the same fears, so I’ll say to you what someone said to me. I'm taking the Bene Gesserit approach - recognizing and admitting my fear, letting it pass, and seizing the kalm afterward. Test scheduled for Sunday. 1-3 days after that for results. Stay at home for two weeks post-contact regardless of test results. Gotta find someone to pass off my in-person poo poo to.
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# ? Nov 19, 2020 19:33 |
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klosterdev posted:If they're going to pull that horseshit they can at least do what my workplace is doing and letting all employees go to negative two weeks of sick time with no consequences. (unless they quit before getting back to zero, in which the difference will be deducted from the last paycheck) Bob Morales posted:Also, re: mandatory PTO becuase of business being down This is evil, by the way. Just pure recklessness and malice.
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# ? Nov 19, 2020 19:37 |
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Maybe IT workers in the US can finally unionize...? Naaaah, who are kidding?
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# ? Nov 19, 2020 19:39 |
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Considering how easy it is for companies to skirt around the union busting laws and get away with firing anyone that so much as thinks the word 'union,' even if workers did organize it's never gonna happen. Sure, you can take them to court over it. But the only entity able to pay for the lawyers would be another corporation.
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# ? Nov 19, 2020 19:43 |
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dragonshardz posted:I'm taking the Bene Gesserit approach - recognizing and admitting my fear, letting it pass, and seizing the kalm afterward.
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# ? Nov 19, 2020 19:48 |
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"gently caress you, got mine" is alive and well, eh?
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# ? Nov 19, 2020 19:54 |
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xzzy posted:Considering how easy it is for companies to skirt around the union busting laws and get away with firing anyone that so much as thinks the word 'union,' even if workers did organize it's never gonna happen. I don't necessarily disagree with your sentiment, but I mean... unions exist, don't they? How did they do it?
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# ? Nov 19, 2020 20:02 |
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The Iron Rose posted:This is evil, by the way. Just pure recklessness and malice. Internet Explorer posted:Maybe IT workers in the US can finally unionize...? Our union employees don't fall under this because they are understaffed right now, they're actually mandated to be working overtime right now.
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# ? Nov 19, 2020 20:06 |
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Internet Explorer posted:I don't necessarily disagree with your sentiment, but I mean... unions exist, don't they? How did they do it? The vast majority of them did it before the U.S. became the capitalist hellscape it is now. Not to say it wasn't a capitalist hellscape in the early-mid-late 1900s, just less of one, that was a lot more permissive of unions. The Dubya administration destroyed a lot of that.
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# ? Nov 19, 2020 20:06 |
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quote:Because WORKPLACE is classified as a low risk facility for employee exposure hahahahhahahahha
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# ? Nov 19, 2020 20:06 |
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Bob Morales posted:Sales people can pull the trump card of THIS SALE A lot of it comes to how those departments are managed. A sales manager who only fixates on this quarter's revenue is going to produce a sales team of rampaging assholes. Better sales managers can produce an environment where sales people realize the rest of the company are also on the same team, and you get sales people who are less assholish. Same for marketing. Sales in particular get lots of sales managers whose qualifications were big numbers but no management skill what so ever.
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# ? Nov 19, 2020 20:11 |
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The big impediment to tech unions is that for a lot of people the “temporarily embarrassed millionaire” stereotype is, sometimes, rather close to being true. There’ll be a lot of pushback from highly paid devs and engineers who have made the system work for them, and are now making oodles of money on the backs of poorly paid gig workers. Obviously it’s worth the cost if it means people like Bob wear a mask, or so folks can actually take sick leave when they’re sick instead of working while infected harming others. The sheer human cost outweighs basically any salary arguments... but the FYGM in tech is very real and I worry it would be a death knell for unionization when the demand for talent is so strong you have people earning hundreds of thousands of dollars a year. Or again, this can all go back to the IT vs engineering split. When salaries are so so high... I question whether there are enough class allies to make a difference. The Iron Rose fucked around with this message at 20:16 on Nov 19, 2020 |
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The Iron Rose posted:
If they refuse to look us in the eyes, then you cut them off at the knees, so they have no other choice.
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# ? Nov 19, 2020 21:35 |
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I work in telecom, so their are unions for some things, but most computer work is defined as management. In a previous job there were different tiers, and the lower tiers were union since even though they were doing remote troubleshooting, they were following processes and such and really it was an outgrowth of central office work. At some point stuff changed from electronics to software and more and more of the job became knowledge work that wasn't just process. This lead to lower tiers being union, but higher tiers were A band management. It was a very interesting dynamic. You could get promoted out of the union tier to management, and you might get a raise, but you were salary and missed out on that sweet overtime. But it worked for a while. It started working less as the economy faltered and they stopped hiring lower tiers, promoted all they could into management, and then started hiring folks off the street for management level jobs. In this case management level meant software expert, good computer and troubleshooting skills. So the company was getting rid of union folks by attrition and job re-definition. And as there were less lower tiers, more work fell on the upper tiers. So there was a push to unionize the upper tiers. Over half the folks there started as union, so there were people open to it. On one hand we all had meetings with HR who wanted to know what our concerns were and tell us all about how awful unions were and how badly they would treat us. On the other hand, upper management started referring to their US employee base as 'resources in high cost geographies, with a pretty clear message that the outsourcing was coming. In the end, nothing happened. 2008 hit, a bunch of people left or got laid off, and they outsourced so much it damaged their brand. Fun times.
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# ? Nov 19, 2020 22:07 |
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Internet Explorer posted:I don't necessarily disagree with your sentiment, but I mean... unions exist, don't they? How did they do it? There was a lot of violence over many decades.
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# ? Nov 19, 2020 22:44 |
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So far 50 emails have come in on a reply-all storm from a mailing list that apparently includes hundreds to possibly thousands of employees/contractors' personal email addresses on it. Best part is that said mailing list absolutely should not allow replies from random people, but here we are regardless. So that's a great thing to have spamming the poo poo out of my personal email address on a Thursday evening. Edit: ten more came in while typing this, and there's also a separate "REMOVE FROM LIST" email chain going on concurrently so that's cool and good. Sheep fucked around with this message at 00:43 on Nov 20, 2020 |
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Sheep posted:So far 50 emails have come in on a reply-all storm from a mailing list that apparently includes hundreds to possibly thousands of employees/contractors' personal email addresses on it. Best part is that said mailing list absolutely should not allow replies from random people, but here we are regardless. Set an auto-reply-all to all emails that come in with that subject line, then set a rule that automatically deletes all emails with that subject line that come in. Bask in the chaos.
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# ? Nov 20, 2020 00:43 |
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I moved for a new job this past July. Found a reasonable house in a nice neighborhood and got moved in by the end of August. Quiet street, friendly neighbors, lots of people out walking dogs. There's a friendly old guy that walks his dog (I've never seen him, I work nights) who has advanced from waving at my kids as he passes by, to stopping and talking to them at street side, to coming right up to our fence to let them interact with his dog, and then today which finally set off Mrs Bastard's spider senses, he walked around the house and let himself into the back yard where the girls were playing. Checked the registry...he's a loving level 3 sex offender. Argh
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# ? Nov 20, 2020 06:35 |
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tactlessbastard posted:I moved for a new job this past July. Found a reasonable house in a nice neighborhood and got moved in by the end of August. Isn't that like an automatic "Get reported, go straight to prison" thing?
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# ? Nov 20, 2020 06:44 |
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Neddy Seagoon posted:Isn't that like an automatic "Get reported, go straight to prison" thing? We're going to find out!
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# ? Nov 20, 2020 06:46 |
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tactlessbastard posted:I moved for a new job this past July. Found a reasonable house in a nice neighborhood and got moved in by the end of August. On the one hand... ...actually, nope. No hands. Straight to
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# ? Nov 20, 2020 06:54 |
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0_0 Time for a camera system at home and a restraining order. Good luck.
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# ? Nov 20, 2020 06:59 |
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poo poo pissing me off: a warehouse employee - Dunning Kruger personified and a major source of gently caress-ups in our ERP about which he lies afterwards - mailing me (with the owner in CC) to request the status of the implementation of our new web shop and to be kept in the loop on any progress. My first three replies were "gently caress you" but I deleted those unsent. I'm just ignoring it for now.
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# ? Nov 20, 2020 08:56 |
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Bob Morales posted:My thing is I get bored quickly. I’ve worked for companies who probably could have gotten away with just using an MSP. I'm in this situation at my current job, I do everything. I've also been there for 10 years and it's really hampering my job search, I feel.
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tactlessbastard posted:We're going to find out! Tell him, in no uncertain terms, to never come near your family again.
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# ? Nov 20, 2020 10:50 |
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I love it when people manage to get IT systems into the workplace without telling me and then expect me to run around supporting them. That'll be a big fat nope.
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# ? Nov 20, 2020 13:23 |
Pissing me off: C suite politics I've gotten lucky enough in my career to do advisory work at that level pretty frequently for SME companies. And the one thing that always blows me away is how it is how often the dynamics are just as sophomoric (or way, way more) as any other group in an organization. I'd say I need to move on and get into really big dog enterprises to see how it's really done but I also sort of doubt it would make any difference.
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# ? Nov 20, 2020 15:05 |
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The months long $250,000 AV project that I was not involved in is slowly coming to an end. I've been asking for documentation for two months, and what I just received is amateurish, sloppy, and written by someone who is obviously not fluent in English. It is a cornucopia of bad grammar, spelling mistakes, and bizarre formatting. (Ex: "Windows" is spelled "windos" over and over again.) I am not looking forward to having to teach people how to use this cumbersome, stupid beast of a system.
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# ? Nov 20, 2020 15:11 |
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Our wonderful little company has no cert server for internal poo poo. It's not like it's THAT hard to set up. Boss finally agreed we need one after a bunch of software changes. It still hasn't even been started on as far as I know.
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# ? Nov 20, 2020 15:35 |
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I have two iPads at my desk that the maintenance department is going to end up using at some point to run WorxHub Someone walks in our office, asks if we have any iPhone chargers. Boss comes over and grabs one of the iPad charger off my desk and gives it to her.
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# ? Nov 20, 2020 18:27 |
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And since you don't wear your mask at your desk , you could have spread the virus onto the charger, and now your boss and colleague are at risk!
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# ? Nov 20, 2020 18:32 |
Well actually his boss already had coronavirus and probably gave it to Bob in the first place
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# ? Nov 20, 2020 18:33 |
Bob Morales posted:I have two iPads at my desk that the maintenance department is going to end up using at some point to run WorxHub Taking bets on if the boss announced he was coming over and gave Bob the chance to mask up before coming into close physical proximity.
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# ? Nov 20, 2020 18:40 |
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Let's dial it back a notch. We've got the thread title and Bob has his nice new shiny red text. Bringing it up every time he posts in the thread isn't going to make for an enjoyable thread. Unless he wants to do something stupid and become a punching bag again, of course.
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# ? Nov 20, 2020 19:02 |
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My boss sent an email with our schedule for next week, with me at HQ. Uh...yeah, don't think that's gonna work.
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# ? Nov 20, 2020 19:13 |
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I'm so sick of AnyConnect and ASAs. God drat. Always stop working when it's least convenient.
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# ? Nov 20, 2020 19:38 |
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angry armadillo posted:I'm between a rock and a hard place. In theory if people can work from home, they should. In practice, our place of work doesn't have a WFH culture at all so when genuine examples of people who could go home appear, management don't back it for fear of all the people that just accept the culture and sit there going "ner ner ner why did ~team member~ get a laptop" etc. As far as I'm aware everyone is totally on ball with getting on their work and taking things seriously, at most I've had to deal with one time waster who is already notorious for constantly loving around with his equipment anyway. And yet I had a LinkedIn head hunter talk to me about some Perforce admin job which was out of my commute comfort zone, and when I said it would pretty much have to be 100% remote with the odd visit because of the distance and commitments with my kids, it was met with "Yeah they want someone in the office at least 3 days a week"
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Earlier this week, our CFO volunteered to have the accounting department take calls for the most COVID-stricken wing of the building. Basically people calling to check in on their elderly family members or whatever. So this involves taking the front desk in that area, all the outside calls, and forward those to a newly created ring group with a couple people from accounting in it. Internal calls still ring their front desk. Setup ringing limits, destinations for the calls to go to or ring back if nobody picks up. And then put this on a schedule from 8:30-4:30 Kind of a pain in the rear end to do, but not a huge deal, since we aren't in the phone system all that often. Anyway, I get it all working, and then maybe 1 hour later I get the call. 'Undo it.' I could have told you by the tone of voice on the accounting peoples voices when I made my test calls, that this wouldn't work. I don't know how many calls came in but this kept them from being able to get any work done.
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