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Kinda been wanting to get back into this lately, is the expansion worth the coin for a primarily PvE person?
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Nov 19, 2020 23:12
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Can anyone confirm if stasis is actually healing overload champs unintentionally since it freezes their action cycles?
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Nov 19, 2020 23:17
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New patch is way better than I was expecting considering how soon it will hit. At least then we'll be able to use whatever in strikes. Still feels really bad about shadowkeep gear but, I just don't expect any big changes until later.
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Nov 19, 2020 23:17
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Capn Beeb posted:Kinda been wanting to get back into this lately, is the expansion worth the coin for a primarily PvE person? Roman fucked around with this message at 23:23 on Nov 19, 2020 |
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Nov 19, 2020 23:18
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Xenolalia posted:Still feels really bad about shadowkeep gear but, I just don't expect any big changes until later. Or maybe just dump the Lectern armor crafting stuff altogether and let you access the Pyramid some other way. No more making goofy moon armor and guns at all
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Nov 19, 2020 23:23
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I remember this game used to have cool looking guns? Now they look like cheap bits of pipe awkwardly stuck together? https://www.light.gg/db/items/4037745684/bonechiller/ https://www.light.gg/db/items/1197486957/high-albedo/ https://www.light.gg/db/items/3512349612/coriolis-force/ This game really is a disappointment-generating engine, isn't it?
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Nov 19, 2020 23:38
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The new guns have a lot more idle animations which I guess is neat. Only part of the gun I ever look at is the crosshairs anyways. 
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Nov 19, 2020 23:40
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Roman posted:If you're stuck in the house it's a bunch more stuff to do. And if you have to do any PVP at all you probably want to use Stasis right now Yeah I got next to no interest in PvP these days, but it seems this expansion revolves around my two favorite characters so I'm pondering it a bit more than I thought I would.
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Nov 19, 2020 23:41
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Capn Beeb posted:Yeah I got next to no interest in PvP these days, but it seems this expansion revolves around my two favorite characters so I'm pondering it a bit more than I thought I would.
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Nov 19, 2020 23:44
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Sample_text posted:I remember this game used to have cool looking guns? They sound phenomenal though. Thermal Erosion and the new Kinetic Pulse are both really, really enjoyable to fire.
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Nov 19, 2020 23:46
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Sample_text posted:I remember this game used to have cool looking guns? Hey do not disparage my Tonka Truck rear end video game guns.
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Nov 19, 2020 23:54
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Eej posted:Shoulder charges are almost universally better as movement abilities than actual melee attacks. Yep, died a lot trying to get shoulders off. It's great if you run across an unaware player, like in an ambush around a corner or someone preoccupied by another player, but if they spot you before you get into charging range you're dead.
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Nov 20, 2020 00:10
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T1g4h posted:They sound phenomenal though. Thermal Erosion and the new Kinetic Pulse are both really, really enjoyable to fire. Lol its true. Very satisfying
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Nov 20, 2020 00:17
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Stasis PvP is fun, part 2 https://i.imgur.com/uvS3byr.mp4 AAB posted:Can anyone confirm if stasis is actually healing overload champs unintentionally since it freezes their action cycles? Yes, Esoterickk (the insane solo challenge guy) had it in a BL tips & tricks video.
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Nov 20, 2020 00:23
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I've been using Severence Enclosure lately because I needed a new gimmick. Recalled that on release it was pure garbage, apparently at some point over the past several months the explosion effect now triggers on any powered melee strike. It's okay. Combined with bottom tree sunbreaker its quite fun because you can sun warrior your way into a shorter melee cooldown with half a room on fire. Kind of the opposite of Synthoceps where you want to punch the big ones first, you now want to punch something smaller to make everything evaporate. Doesn't replace any of the usual exotic good options for Titan but it's variation at least. Worthless if you're using stasis though, whether by oversight or design.
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Nov 20, 2020 00:47
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I accidentally abandoned a fragment quest thinking I could choose another one instead of doing Gambit, looks like I'm only unlocking 1 fragment this week.
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Nov 20, 2020 01:21
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Capn Beeb posted:Kinda been wanting to get back into this lately, is the expansion worth the coin for a primarily PvE person? As someone who had previously burned out on Destiny and Bungie's seemingly infinite capacity for bad decisions, forever quitting Shadowkeep after a few days, and only bought--or even looked at--Beyond Light because a friend was specifically wanting to pick it up and try Destiny again, I've enjoyed it. Beyond Light doesn't fix any of the game's myriad problems, and in botching sunsetting and adding new class builds that do heavy CC in PvP Bungie has created new problems. As well of course once you run out of the campaign and mission content it's back to grinding bounties and poo poo, as Destiny ever was, but within the very narrow context of Destiny 2 expansions, it's good. Forsaken was bigger so far, but Beyond Light is prettier and Europa is the best destination yet imo
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Nov 20, 2020 01:41
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Capn Beeb posted:Kinda been wanting to get back into this lately, is the expansion worth the coin for a primarily PvE person? Almost all of the content is PvE related. And, I think it's pretty great. I just finished my light level grind in prep for the raid, so we'll see how that goes. Also, seeing all the datamines and leaks so far, there is a lot more coming for PvE play, so i would say that is worth it if you are treating it as a game you play through the story and consume the post-game content for, but don't dive into grinding.
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Nov 20, 2020 01:56
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What was the point of leaving activision other than actively making the game worse but getting all of the money? Also new gambit is trash. Prime was way better. Apparent Destiny plays can't into anything harder than "shoot".
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Nov 20, 2020 01:57
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Sample_text posted:I remember this game used to have cool looking guns? https://twitter.com/apsisprops/status/1328376137190354945?s=21 Also the raid weapons look amazing are you blind
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Nov 20, 2020 02:09
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Eej posted:https://twitter.com/apsisprops/status/1328376137190354945?s=21 Hmm now I'm really tempted to find a shader that can turn them into Milwaukee tools.
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DrNutt posted:Hmm now I'm really tempted to find a shader that can turn them into Milwaukee tools. https://twitter.com/ApsisProps/status/1328718092499890178?s=19
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Nov 20, 2020 02:23
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RBX posted:What was the point of leaving activision other than actively making the game worse but getting all of the money? Activision was just going to put out a garbage tier annual pass (the Y3 seasonal content was pre-planned... and yes, it Worthy would have been Worthy), with no Shadowkeep content as Activision wanted Bungie to stop work on D2, period. Beyond Light would have been Destiny 3, and would have been a full reset of the sandbox like Destiny 2 was. Basically, it would have been exactly what we got, just worse in every way. Instead of sunsetting, all the stuff would have been deleted.
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Nov 20, 2020 02:26
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RocketRaygun posted:Activision was just going to put out a garbage tier annual pass (the Y3 seasonal content was pre-planned... and yes, it Worthy would have been Worthy), with no Shadowkeep content as Activision wanted Bungie to stop work on D2, period. Beyond Light would have been Destiny 3, and would have been a full reset of the sandbox like Destiny 2 was. but without sunsetting, the new loot wouldn’t come with a hardcoded expiration date we might even have more than a couple of machine guns to choose from
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Nov 20, 2020 02:30
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RocketRaygun posted:Activision was just going to put out a garbage tier annual pass (the Y3 seasonal content was pre-planned... and yes, it Worthy would have been Worthy), with no Shadowkeep content as Activision wanted Bungie to stop work on D2, period. Beyond Light would have been Destiny 3, and would have been a full reset of the sandbox like Destiny 2 was. How is any of that bad. You guys support sunsetting bit somehow a whole new game with a not lovely engine full of bugs and new armor and weapons and enemies is worse than the same mess with the same reskinned enemies and useless loot? Our stuff wouldn't be "deleted" it's a new game. I dont understand what's so hard about that. Activision saw they can't reskin poo poo forever on this garbage engine and tried to make them actually make new stuff.
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Nov 20, 2020 02:33
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I mean, it would be the same poo poo as before. Reprinted D1 and D2 guns with whatever new perks they come up with. Personally, I think its just the same thing but explained different. Activision didn't want to do expansions, so it was extremely likely that everything would just expire yearly anyway as they release whatever yearly Destiny game they are up to.
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Nov 20, 2020 02:38
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Fly Molo posted:but without sunsetting, the new loot wouldn’t come with a hardcoded expiration date Yearly releases would be the hardcoded expiration. Activision wanted to do to Destiny what they did with Call of Duty. Yearly releases.
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Nov 20, 2020 02:39
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RBX posted:How is any of that bad. because why do you think any of that would happen like why do you think it'd be new enemies. why do you think there'd be no bugs. and a big part of the vaulting is so they can start updating things to their new engine, which apparently has already started paying off or like, bungie's already struggling making content, how are they gonna do a full game's worth? ps. sunsetting sucks and is dumb
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Yeah, I'm not defending sunsetting at all. I'm just saying you'd have literally the same thing as sunsetting, except exotics would be included and you have to pay $60 for the pleasure of having everything removed. Is the current system good? gently caress no. This sucks. Is the current system better than what Activision wanted to? absolutely yes. Yearly Destiny releases (or every other year releases) would have been awful. Also, Activision didn't abandon this plan. They did exactly what they were going to do, and put VV and High Moon on Call of Duty games.
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Nov 20, 2020 02:48
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Calus Du'uty
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RBX posted:How is any of that bad. WHO?! I WANT NAMES!
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Nov 20, 2020 03:01
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sunsetting is soft coded just like the loot pool
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Sunsetting is a cool idea but only if they carry through on making the new guns actually desirable. There's some interesting guns this season but there's no felwinter's lie or NF in there. So that part of sunsetting is pretty lame.
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xzzy posted:Sunsetting is a cool idea but only if they carry through on making the new guns actually desirable. There's some interesting guns this season but there's no felwinter's lie or NF in there. In short: the new guns are worse than the old guns. But now we have to use them! I’m so glad we avoided power creep: aka powerful new guns that feel great and are worth chasing.  There’s no point introducing sunsetting if your new guns feel better than the old guns: it’s redundant. Sunsetting is only useful if the new guns are mediocre, or crappier than the old guns, or if you want to force people to keep grinding for the same old gnawing hunger.
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RocketRaygun posted:Yeah, I'm not defending sunsetting at all. I'm just saying you'd have literally the same thing as sunsetting, except exotics would be included and you have to pay $60 for the pleasure of having everything removed. I was under the assumption they'd still have help. Mazerunner posted:because why do you think any of that would happen I'd assume better of them like any other developer? I see no difference in their engine currently. If they can't do basic things everybody expects like you guys say then whatever. It's a lost cause.
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Nov 20, 2020 03:22
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The engine changes are all background stuff to make developing easier for them and you shouldn't be noticing an in game difference.
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I definitely haven't noticed them having an easier time developing new content lol
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Nov 20, 2020 04:00
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Activision wanted Bungie churning out a Forsaken size expansion every fall with a Destiny numbered sequel every 3rd Fall. Annual content would be in line with BA, JW, Opulence. Bungie said no because they don't do crunch time and wanted to develop the game in house
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