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bowmore posted:Wouldn't be surprised if rupert paid for the bots himself Easiest way to find some bots in a massive petition is to name them something you remember when you set them up to be found.
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So are Aussie war crimes investigated by the AFP, or is it done by an international body? I.e. What's the likelihood of Channel Seven paying for defence lawyers at The Hague?
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Jerk Burger posted:So are Aussie war crimes investigated by the AFP, or is it done by an international body? I.e. What's the likelihood of Channel Seven paying for defence lawyers at The Hague? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_indicted_in_the_International_Criminal_Court Hm, looks like there's going to be an "internal investigation" by the perpetrating state! The Peccadillo fucked around with this message at 13:20 on Nov 19, 2020 |
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bandaid.friend posted:The Australian can reveal a Bangladeshi man was paid $58 by a whistleblower — who wanted to test the vulnerabilities of parliament’s e-petition system — to generate 1000 fake signatories in less than 12 hours. Those signing petitions are required to be Australian citizen or residents. tl:dr a dude added bunch of fake names to the petition and then told the australian there are a bunch of fake names on the petition. great job
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Jerk Burger posted:So are Aussie war crimes investigated by the AFP, or is it done by an international body? I.e. What's the likelihood of Channel Seven paying for defence lawyers at The Hague? AFP. So we already know the outcome. No Interviews, No charges and No justice.
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quote:The Australian can reveal a Bangladeshi man was paid $58 by a whistleblower — who wanted to test the vulnerabilities of parliament’s e-petition system — to generate 1000 fake signatories in less than 12 hours. Those signing petitions are required to be Australian citizen or residents. I wonder who this mystery blogger is. quote:We are The Turncoats. Turning the coat on the politically correct, the traditional, or simply the “conventional” ways of covering stories, news or current affairs. To go against the grain, drop some bombs (figuratively speaking), shake things up, but most importantly, we strive to find the truth or as close to it as we can possibly get. Good thing we have responsible whistleblowers who care deeply about the e-petition process integrity and it just so happens that they brought this up to undermine an investigation into Murdoch media  The facebook page is also just a cesspool of posts about how Democrats are stealing the election from Trump.
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Comstar posted:AFP. Nonsense, there are already charges and interviews... ...against the journo who reported the crimes in the first place.
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Comstar posted:AFP. The CFMEU just needs to make all the war criminals members, and then they'll investigate.
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I knew we should have fortified our western border
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Electric Wrigglies posted:Wearing masks and practicing hand washing helped reduce the infection rate of cohabitating people significantly compared to those that cohabitated and were not explicitly told to wear masks practice extra hygiene. Enough of a difference that even though we can never be sure, it is a chance that the Adelaide outbreak might not have allowed the release into the wider population. I suggest this because if everyone had washed their hands and had a mask on to enter each shop like happens where I live, it might not have spread further. You want all 25 million people in Australia to wear masks inside their own homes at all times on the off-chance there's a local COVID outbreak?
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Heard Angus Houston (I think) on the radio saying that this whole thing creates more motivation for extremists. At first I thought he was criticising even whistleblowing/prosecuting this, but I think he was concurring that doing war crimes is bad - but only because it might place our own forces or people at further risk. Gave me a Howard-era War on Terror flashback to the notion that we mustn't ostracise Muslims because they're our "greatest resource" in the fight against terror - not because they're fellow Australians and human beings or anything, just because they're a resource to be utilised for our own advantage.
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bandaid.friend posted:Kevin Rudd’s Bangladeshi ‘bots’ in media royal commission petition Why is this being framed as a problem with Kevin Rudd's integrity instead of a problem with the government's petition system? I wonder if it has something to do with the reason the petition was put up in the first place...
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freebooter posted:Heard Angus Houston (I think) on the radio saying that this whole thing creates more motivation for extremists. At first I thought he was criticising even whistleblowing/prosecuting this, but I think he was concurring that doing war crimes is bad - but only because it might place our own forces or people at further risk. Gave me a Howard-era War on Terror flashback to the notion that we mustn't ostracise Muslims because they're our "greatest resource" in the fight against terror - not because they're fellow Australians and human beings or anything, just because they're a resource to be utilised for our own advantage. So how much is the right amount of motivating extremists, war crimes is too much, but presumably not invading the Middle East to begin with is too little
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Solemn Sloth posted:So how much is the right amount of motivating extremists, war crimes is too much, but presumably not invading the Middle East to begin with is too little No use crying over spilt milk. Or the milk we are gonna spill in Iran next.
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Solemn Sloth posted:So how much is the right amount of motivating extremists, war crimes is too much, but presumably not invading the Middle East to begin with is too little The right amount is what it takes to justify the defence budget this year in the mind of the electorate
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LIVE AMMO COSPLAY posted:No use crying over spilt milk. *kicks over milk* NO USE CRYING OVER IT *goes on milk spilling rampage* NO CRYING
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The fact that NewsCorp is kicking up so much and obviously about this is a sign that they're scared of it, which honestly I don't understand because with the current government they're never gonna do anything substantial.
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Who the gently caress lies to a contact tracing team? Edit: Context is that someone in SA mislead the contact tracing team. From media "The lie was -the person claimed that they had purchased a pizza from the pizza shop, where in fact they were working there and had been working there for several shifts" Edit2. Almost hoping the stuff-up is the tracing team asking the person did you order a pizza from the shop and the person not clarifying that they worked there. That kind of stupidity would almost seem better than malice. Actually thinking about it how didn't the contact tracing team get the names of everyone that worked at the pizza bar days ago? Surely the business would of provided the team with the details of all of their workers. RichardA fucked around with this message at 02:45 on Nov 20, 2020 |
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RichardA posted:Who the gently caress lies to a contact tracing team? Someone who is gonna need the equivalent of witness relocation after this. Probably something like being paid cash in hand and worried about ramifications from that.
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Senor Tron posted:Probably something like being paid cash in hand and worried about ramifications from that. That would explain a lot. And if so make Marshall a bastard for not including the business in the statement. RichardA fucked around with this message at 02:52 on Nov 20, 2020 |
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Nov 20, 2020 02:47
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Senor Tron posted:Probably something like being paid cash in hand and worried about ramifications from that. It's always this, and if we had a Labor Party with any teeth they'd be bringing it up every single day
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"Hey I was sick and working food prep" Even if they didn't know they were sick, they're probably terrified of ending up on the front page of every newspaper as the new Typhoid Mary.
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Hey, you know that extremely important job on one of those frontlines people love talking about? The one where you're the wall and the watchtower holding back a plague? What if it didn't pay that well and you had to work a second job. Just a thought.
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Sierra Madre posted:Hey, you know that extremely important job on one of those frontlines people love talking about? The one where you're the wall and the watchtower holding back a plague? What if it didn't pay that well and you had to work a second job. Just a thought.  To dumb to live.
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Megillah Gorilla posted:"Hey I was sick and working food prep" 
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bell jar posted:putting the decision to go into hyperlockdown onto one guy at a pizza shop instead of the contact tracer who mistook inconsistent data with super saiyan covid, simply excellent. you love to see it They had a positive case that they couldn't trace beyond that pizza shop being the closest point of contact, can't blame them.
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Senor Tron posted:They had a positive case that they couldn't trace beyond that pizza shop being the closest point of contact, can't blame them. The possibilities were that 1) SA had imported some hitherto unknown hyper-virulent strain of COVID or 2) there was misleading information supplied to contact tracers. Given the numbers in the state (outside of one large family unit) were what they were, the decision for total lockdown looks very premature and probably undermines public acceptance of future lockdowns.
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EoinCannon posted:I was being a bit flippant with the jab at Crossfit, seems like it gets people fit. There does seem to be a bit of acceptance of bro science in and around it though. A bit late but absolutely. There's this documentary/reality show on Netflix about some Crossfit gyms and the community around it and I thought they captured the vibe quite well - loads of really normal people, but also a few fitness freaks. freebooter posted:Heard Angus Houston (I think) on the radio saying that this whole thing creates more motivation for extremists. At first I thought he was criticising even whistleblowing/prosecuting this, but I think he was concurring that doing war crimes is bad - but only because it might place our own forces or people at further risk. Gave me a Howard-era War on Terror flashback to the notion that we mustn't ostracise Muslims because they're our "greatest resource" in the fight against terror - not because they're fellow Australians and human beings or anything, just because they're a resource to be utilised for our own advantage. I am genuinely unsurprised by this. The biggest thing I've learnt doorknocking for the Greens is that your priorities are probably not the same as other peoples, and you have to tailor the message accordingly. People don't give a poo poo about the Biloela family, but they might give a gently caress the government is spending literally millions on keeping them in gaol, and same goes here - they don't give a poo poo about some foreigner in a place they can't point out on a map, but they do give a poo poo about how it might radicalise someone at home and abroad. People are hosed and there's a good number of people who operate with the world they have rather than they one they'd like (not saying that's the case here, though).
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Brucolac posted:The possibilities were that 1) SA had imported some hitherto unknown hyper-virulent strain of COVID Not entirely impossible given how many places have given up on contact tracing at this point, and was backed up by the fact the initial breach of quarantine seems to have come from someone who had no direct contact with an infected person. They were treating it as very infectious based on the evidence available but it could have also been something like an infectious person with atrocious hygiene spreading so much fluid on pizza boxes, drink bottles etc that it was easily spread. quote:or 2) there was misleading information supplied to contact tracers. Given the numbers in the state (outside of one large family unit) were what they were, the decision for total lockdown looks very premature and probably undermines public acceptance of future lockdowns. Premature isn't the right wording here. If they had waited to finish doing all the tracing (which is explicitly what uncovered this lie within a couple of days) and it had turned out to be spreading in the community then it would have been too late and we would have been in Melbourne territory for the next 3 months. Yeah this whole situation sucks, but even if there was a 50/50 chance of it being an incorrect tracing connection then the cost of a few days of lockdown is worth it to avoid the risk of months of lockdown. Plus if they had waited and it turned out really bad I'm sure a bunch of people like you would be criticising them for having signs that it was a dangerous situation and doing nothing.
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Senor Tron posted:Not entirely impossible given how many places have given up on contact tracing at this point, and was backed up by the fact the initial breach of quarantine seems to have come from someone who had no direct contact with an infected person. They were treating it as very infectious based on the evidence available but it could have also been something like an infectious person with atrocious hygiene spreading so much fluid on pizza boxes, drink bottles etc that it was easily spread. A good post, so I'm empty quoting it.
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bell jar posted:putting the decision to go into hyperlockdown onto one guy at a pizza shop instead of the contact tracer who mistook inconsistent data with super saiyan covid, simply excellent. you love to see it Again you see the trend where public servants will leak/provide information to the media to defray responsibility from the services and push it onto someone not in a position to defend themselves effectively. freebooter posted:You want all 25 million people in Australia to wear masks inside their own homes at all times on the off-chance there's a local COVID outbreak? No, I don't think it is necessary for the broader population to wear masks at all times in their own homes. I did not suggest that.
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Senor Tron posted:Premature isn't the right wording here. If they had waited to finish doing all the tracing (which is explicitly what uncovered this lie within a couple of days) and it had turned out to be spreading in the community then it would have been too late and we would have been in Melbourne territory for the next 3 months. Absolutely. After what Victoria just went through I don't fault any premier for erring extremely on the side of caution. Nor do I envy them having to make these decisions. I do however believe it's well past time we re-examined our two-birds-with-one-stone policy of enforcing quarantine by bailing out the hotel industry. Electric Wrigglies posted:No, I don't think it is necessary for the broader population to wear masks at all times in their own homes. I did not suggest that. You alluded to a study about how masks decreased transmission between co-habitants. Other than that you suggested people should have to wear masks when entering retail, which I don't think is crazy at all but I do think it's excessive as a just-in-case measure when a region has eliminated the virus. Aside from places like the US where you should be walking outside in a spacesuit if possible, masks are a great addition to strict lockdown measures like Victoria had. They start feeling silly once bars and restaurants are safely open for dining i.e. the way Australia is doing it, once virus transmission is at zero or in single figures and you're confident in your contact tracing - not the way the US or Europe are doing it where they decided they just don't give a poo poo. It's self-evidently pointless for somebody to have to walk down the street wearing a mask if they're passing al fresco tables full of people happily eating, drinking and chatting away without masks.
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Senor Tron posted:Premature isn't the right wording here. If they had waited to finish doing all the tracing (which is explicitly what uncovered this lie within a couple of days) and it had turned out to be spreading in the community then it would have been too late and we would have been in Melbourne territory for the next 3 months. quote:Yeah this whole situation sucks, but even if there was a 50/50 chance of it being an incorrect tracing connection then the cost of a few days of lockdown is worth it to avoid the risk of months of lockdown. Plus if they had waited and it turned out really bad I'm sure a bunch of people like you would be criticising them for having signs that it was a dangerous situation and doing nothing. I'm very glad the government acted so quickly to implement restrictions based around the discovery of the cluster. But I do question implementing the second lockdown phase based on one case that didn't fit the pattern when all other observed vectors of transmission seemed normal. Brucolac fucked around with this message at 10:36 on Nov 20, 2020 |
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