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SatoshiMiwa
May 6, 2007


Hirez posted:

What's the best Wrestling show's theme/year in your own opinion - personally I've always been a huge mark for

All Japan's Theme music no question

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6q_Ptv7EDo

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Ganso Bomb
Oct 24, 2005

turn it all around

Holy poo poo, I had forgotten all about that theme and it all came rushing back when I heard "DIESEL COOL".

Benne
Sep 2, 2011

STOP DOING HEROIN
The Wrestle Kingdom theme slaps so loving hard

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__xqL-F8uTw

Hirez
Feb 3, 2003

Weber scored 49 points?

:allears: :allears: :allears:

Ganso Bomb posted:

Holy poo poo, I had forgotten all about that theme and it all came rushing back when I heard "DIESEL COOL".

yea, after that i heard Diesel Cool, Undertaker... Shawn Michaels... [i started singing the rest until I got to Hakushi and marked out and had to restart...

It's that saturday morning programming child memory, just like remembering the Xmen cartoon theme, Saved By Bell theme, etc etc

Dimebags Brain
Feb 18, 2013





Dragon Storm and all the variants Dragon Gate has used throughout the years is the hypest theme.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3O6Qyqsjcg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H21IXzVYBR4

ChrisBTY
Mar 29, 2012

this glorious monument

Bob Backlund, Tito Santana (who who still active in the AWF in the early-mid 90s) and Yokozuna come to mind.
(Oh wait, Santana and Yoko each wrestled exactly one WCW match ever. And Yoko did it when it was still JCP).
Doing a little research you have both Smoking Gunns, both members of T and A and Tom Pritchard as well.

ChrisBTY fucked around with this message at 06:50 on Nov 17, 2020

Edge & Christian
May 20, 2001

Earth-1145 is truly the best!
A world of singing, magic frogs,
high adventure, no shitposters

ChrisBTY posted:

Doing a little research you have both Smoking Gunns, both members of T and A and Tom Pritchard as well.
Billy Gunn did a series of jobs in 1989-1990 as Kip Montana.

Dr. Tom appeared a few times in interpromotional SMW/WCW matches, most notably at Superbrawl III.

Test and Albert both seem like edge cases (similar to the Rock or Mark Henry) in the sense that both of them started wrestling even later than Rock or Henry; both of them had their first matches in late 1997 and by early 1998 had signed developmental deals with WWF.

ChrisBTY
Mar 29, 2012

this glorious monument

Wow yeah. Keeping track of all the dudes who did random JCP jobs is pretty rough. Didn't know WCW co-promoted with SMW though.

Pope Corky the IX
Dec 18, 2006

What are you looking at?
RAW IS WAR'S A THORN

IN YOUR EYE

Ganso Bomb
Oct 24, 2005

turn it all around

I'm gonna guess Bob Backlund never showed up in WCW.

Maybe also The Headbangers? Bradshaw? Val Venis? Godfather?

Minidust
Nov 4, 2009

Keep bustin'

Pope Corky the IX posted:

RAW IS WAR'S A THORN

IN YOUR EYE
The old raw theme is credited to "Slam Jam," which according to Discogs includes "two rappers from german crossover kings Such A Surge." So now I'm wondering if everything aside from the title line is actually unintelligible German, rather than unintelligible English. Those lyrics remain one of the great unsolved mysteries of our time.

Vince MechMahon
Jan 1, 2008



Minidust posted:

The old raw theme is credited to "Slam Jam," which according to Discogs includes "two rappers from german crossover kings Such A Surge." So now I'm wondering if everything aside from the title line is actually unintelligible German, rather than unintelligible English. Those lyrics remain one of the great unsolved mysteries of our time.

Apple Music has the full, I would guess correct, lyrics for the old raw song.

Pope Corky the IX
Dec 18, 2006

What are you looking at?
And why aren't you sharing them?!

Vince MechMahon
Jan 1, 2008



Pope Corky the IX posted:

And why aren't you sharing them?!
Putting these in spoiler tags cause I had to take pictures cause there's no way to just copy the text.







Hedgehog Pie
May 19, 2012

Total fuckin' silence.
It's the like with the back with the sword of me,
Put your soul in my arms with the soul of Vince,
But you aren't passing with my lame-brain spear!
(...)
God drat cracked the crawl,
If you hide!

RenegadeStyle1
Jun 7, 2005

Baby Come Back
I guess this is more about the community itself but what got you into the backstage stuff of wrestling? Why did it appeal to you? For me my first board was the gamefaqs wrestling message board.

RC and Moon Pie
May 5, 2011

I think one of the old wrestling mags I had referenced The Grandstand, which was technically run by/in agreement with some internet provider. The Grandstand was connected to the official ECW site. I got internet in mid-1996. Beyond the ECW site, I can't remember how I found the AltaVista search engine, but started leading to some stuff.

Email newsletters were the big thing back then.

Halloween Jack
Sep 12, 2003
I WILL CUT OFF BOTH OF MY ARMS BEFORE I VOTE FOR ANYONE THAT IS MORE POPULAR THAN BERNIE!!!!!

RenegadeStyle1 posted:

I guess this is more about the community itself but what got you into the backstage stuff of wrestling? Why did it appeal to you? For me my first board was the gamefaqs wrestling message board.

Now that I think about it, e-feds probably got me more interested in the idea of booking and by extension the whole backstage aspect of it. I would also wonder a lot about how much of the gimmick reflected the wrestlers' real personalities, same as people wonder about musicians and actors.

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010
I think I wanted RAW results and ended up at Scoops or Rantsylvania

Trying
Sep 26, 2019

El Gallinero Gros posted:

I think I wanted RAW results and ended up at Scoops or Rantsylvania

similar. once you have *****CLICKED*HERE*FOR*MORE~!***** you are lost to a life of ruin

Red
Apr 15, 2003

Yeah, great at getting us into Wawa.

Red posted:

That's a tough call, because he basically followed the same formula for 20 years.

However, I love all of his singles matches with Orndorff, because they sold the feud as being so personal, and Orndorff was such a great foil. Most were booked with Hogan acting like a jerk, unfortunately, which hurt the feel, because the point of the feud was that Orndorff felt Hogan was a lovely friend. Still, they kept interest in the series high and milked it for every penny.

I think I have to go with the Warrior WM6 match, because he got such a great match out of Warrior (who was otherwise awful at everything), and because Hogan put someone else over, and helped create a new star.

Besides that, I have a special place in my heart for the Survivor Series '89 match featuring DiBiase, Zeus, Warlord, and Barbarian versus Hogan, Jake, and Demolition. That match, had Hogan put DiBiase over, would've made Ted into a megastar. As it is, Ted still looks like a million dollars (pun intended).

Going back to Hogan's best matches, he had amazing chemistry with the Big Bossman (Boss Man? Bossman?), and their series of matches were all pretty great, and the crowds ate it all up. There's a really fun one in the Boston Garden where Hulk cuffs Slick, and abuses him repeatedly as a replacement for restholds, and the match is just nonstop action.

Edit: Also, their SNME cage match, where Hogan cuffs Bossman to the ropes so he can escape, and they showed actual blood!

Amazing that Bossman looked like a big fat guy in his 20s, but could really go, but looked like he was in much better shape in the late 90s, but had become pretty immobile. Who knows what the gently caress he was doing that he died of a heart attack at 41.

Red fucked around with this message at 23:32 on Nov 18, 2020

DeathChicken
Jul 9, 2012

Nonsense. I have not yet begun to defile myself.

He was moving around pretty well in the 90s. That was when we got nutty poo poo like his top rope crossbody to Earthquake, where he got caught like a sack of potatoes

Edit: Oh, *late* 90s. Yeah, by then he was probably cooked physically

Trying
Sep 26, 2019

what you have to remember about these old "lazy" wrestlers is they were working 320+ nights a year and a lot of them were jacked up to the gills

MJeff
Jun 2, 2011

THE LIAR
How were Kenny and Kota as draws in DDT? I assume Budokan Peter Pan was their peak, how were they besides that?

Insert a Name Here
Nov 1, 2020

]Heres comes a wild chalen-gerlrllr~
I have an answer to an age old wreslting question; why isnt NWA a large major promotion?

Well, here it is. NwA does "built to fold" promos for anything from 6 months to about 2 years. Sometimes it's a large independent get together, sometimes it's an all act based one(during CYBER SPACE almost everyone was an alien or robot*but a few folks wanted to focus on getting themselves started so just did tights and a t shirt) and it's the low rent king of leagues for it. If it's not an xtrme stunt based one, it's got National Wreslting Alliance written on the paperwork somewhere.


*or a conspiracy theorist whackjob alien robot.

Cornwind Evil
Dec 14, 2004


The undisputed world champion of wrestling effortposting

Pope Corky the IX posted:

RAW IS WAR'S A THORN

IN YOUR EYE

I remember a recapper that I read around the time who would come up with a different mondegreen for the theme every week, though the only one I remember is "RAW IS WAR'S ALONE WITH THAT GUY!"

Speaking of old memories, I remembered a candid (?) interview with Anthony Norris ie Ahmed Johnson in WWE Magazine (or maybe their more adult side magazine, Raw, I forget) where he talked about his childhood which as he presented it was horrifically abusive, with his father being an utterly monstrous POS who did stuff like pour boiling water on Ahmed's stomach (because no one was allowed to touch 'his' food, but his siblings were starving so Ahmed broke the rules and got out some of 'his' hot dogs, and his father caught him and did that as a punishment) amongst other things: the abuse was so bad that Ahmed candidly said that when he was an adult he attempted to kill him twice, only to be stopped by his sister IIRC.

Buttttttt Ahmed also supposedly got discharged from the military for striking a superior officer, claimed to play for the Dallas Cowboys whereas the Cowboys say they have no records of him, and there's more than one story about him acting as a pimp and being just as abusive to the women he oversaw in his own ways (I think there was a claim posted in the infamous "Sleaziest Stories Of Pro Wrestling" that he said he had his girls 'so pimped' that he was 'able to use their tongues as toilet paper'). Remembering that interview and these claims just made me wonder what the real deal with Norris was. A sad victim of the cycle of abuse? A liar? Or somewhere in the middle?

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010

Cornwind Evil posted:

I remember a recapper that I read around the time who would come up with a different mondegreen for the theme every week, though the only one I remember is "RAW IS WAR'S ALONE WITH THAT GUY!"

Speaking of old memories, I remembered a candid (?) interview with Anthony Norris ie Ahmed Johnson in WWE Magazine (or maybe their more adult side magazine, Raw, I forget) where he talked about his childhood which as he presented it was horrifically abusive, with his father being an utterly monstrous POS who did stuff like pour boiling water on Ahmed's stomach (because no one was allowed to touch 'his' food, but his siblings were starving so Ahmed broke the rules and got out some of 'his' hot dogs, and his father caught him and did that as a punishment) amongst other things: the abuse was so bad that Ahmed candidly said that when he was an adult he attempted to kill him twice, only to be stopped by his sister IIRC.

Buttttttt Ahmed also supposedly got discharged from the military for striking a superior officer, claimed to play for the Dallas Cowboys whereas the Cowboys say they have no records of him, and there's more than one story about him acting as a pimp and being just as abusive to the women he oversaw in his own ways (I think there was a claim posted in the infamous "Sleaziest Stories Of Pro Wrestling" that he said he had his girls 'so pimped' that he was 'able to use their tongues as toilet paper'). Remembering that interview and these claims just made me wonder what the real deal with Norris was. A sad victim of the cycle of abuse? A liar? Or somewhere in the middle?

IIRC the pimping story turned out to be another man named Tony Norris

Take the vast majority of the sleaze thread with a grain of salt.

Whether he was abused, I really don't know

Sandman from ECW
Sep 6, 2011

Insert a Name Here posted:

I have an answer to an age old wreslting question; why isnt NWA a large major promotion?

Well, here it is. NwA does "built to fold" promos for anything from 6 months to about 2 years. Sometimes it's a large independent get together, sometimes it's an all act based one(during CYBER SPACE almost everyone was an alien or robot*but a few folks wanted to focus on getting themselves started so just did tights and a t shirt) and it's the low rent king of leagues for it. If it's not an xtrme stunt based one, it's got National Wreslting Alliance written on the paperwork somewhere.


*or a conspiracy theorist whackjob alien robot.

What

Vince MechMahon
Jan 1, 2008



Cornwind Evil posted:

I remember a recapper that I read around the time who would come up with a different mondegreen for the theme every week, though the only one I remember is "RAW IS WAR'S ALONE WITH THAT GUY!"

Speaking of old memories, I remembered a candid (?) interview with Anthony Norris ie Ahmed Johnson in WWE Magazine (or maybe their more adult side magazine, Raw, I forget) where he talked about his childhood which as he presented it was horrifically abusive, with his father being an utterly monstrous POS who did stuff like pour boiling water on Ahmed's stomach (because no one was allowed to touch 'his' food, but his siblings were starving so Ahmed broke the rules and got out some of 'his' hot dogs, and his father caught him and did that as a punishment) amongst other things: the abuse was so bad that Ahmed candidly said that when he was an adult he attempted to kill him twice, only to be stopped by his sister IIRC.

Buttttttt Ahmed also supposedly got discharged from the military for striking a superior officer, claimed to play for the Dallas Cowboys whereas the Cowboys say they have no records of him, and there's more than one story about him acting as a pimp and being just as abusive to the women he oversaw in his own ways (I think there was a claim posted in the infamous "Sleaziest Stories Of Pro Wrestling" that he said he had his girls 'so pimped' that he was 'able to use their tongues as toilet paper'). Remembering that interview and these claims just made me wonder what the real deal with Norris was. A sad victim of the cycle of abuse? A liar? Or somewhere in the middle?

I don't think one thing being true discounts the other if they're true. Hurt people hurt people.

DeathChicken
Jul 9, 2012

Nonsense. I have not yet begun to defile myself.

It was CRZ who did the constantly changing Raw intro. RAW IS WAR'S A PORN IN YOUR STY

Spuckuk
Aug 11, 2009

Being a bastard works



Question?

Who's the oldest regularly working wrestler in any decent sized promotion? Because I was astonished to find out Billy Gunn is 57 and still going at it.

CopywrightMMXI
Jun 1, 2011

One time a guy stole some downhill skis out of my jeep and I was so mad I punched a mailbox. I'm against crime, and I'm not ashamed to admit it.

Spuckuk posted:

Question?

Who's the oldest regularly working wrestler in any decent sized promotion? Because I was astonished to find out Billy Gunn is 57 and still going at it.

Joke answer: Luchasaurus

Real answer: Billy seems right, if you count him as a regular performer. Dustin Rhodes is also 50+ and Jericho just turned 50. WWE has a few oldies who show up to beat the younger talent from time to time but they’re not really regulars.

Smoking Crow
Feb 14, 2012

*laughs at u*

Spuckuk posted:

Question?

Who's the oldest regularly working wrestler in any decent sized promotion? Because I was astonished to find out Billy Gunn is 57 and still going at it.

negro casas is 60 and killing it

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010
I think Tatsumi Fujinami is still wrestling fairly regularly

Cavauro
Jan 9, 2008

Great Kojika is 78

Red
Apr 15, 2003

Yeah, great at getting us into Wawa.

Spuckuk posted:

Question?

Who's the oldest regularly working wrestler in any decent sized promotion? Because I was astonished to find out Billy Gunn is 57 and still going at it.

I swore Butcher from AEW had to be in his mid to late 50s, but nope, early 40s.

Minoru Suzuki is only 52, and I swear he's been 50 forever.

Undertaker's last "match" was right around his 55th birthday.

Ken Shamrock is in Impact, and he's 56.

So Billy Gunn still going is goddamn impressive.

STING 64
Oct 20, 2006

whats crazy is not only is billy still going, but go watch his matches on AEW Dark. he wrestles every week, gets a lot of shine and heat moments in matches, remains very mobile and can for the most part hang with nearly everyone on the roster. i look back at tanahashi picking him for his IC Title Defense when he wrestled stateside in a much different light now.

Spuckuk
Aug 11, 2009

Being a bastard works



El Gallinero Gros posted:

I think Tatsumi Fujinami is still wrestling fairly regularly

Fujinami is the guy I had in mind for oldest guy wrestling at all, but AFAIK he's mostly retired?

Admiral Joeslop
Jul 8, 2010




Shamrock looks like a golem made of veins and wrinkles, I refuse to believe he's a year younger than Billy Gunn.

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jesus WEP
Oct 17, 2004


someone post the gif of shamrock shoot powerbombing filthy tom tia

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