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Infinite Karma posted:How about : I would do some bad things to get Rancor reprinted. IMO it's one of those staples that should be in at least every other Core Set. GoST and Port would both see play for sure, although I think Geist is not quite the slam dunk it used to be given how strong creatures are across the board now.
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hexproof mattered a lot more when doom blade was a maindeck playable card
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DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:hexproof mattered a lot more when doom blade was a maindeck playable card people play a ton of doom blade in standard rn what are you talking about
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Nov 21, 2020 03:51
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Sampatrick posted:people play a ton of doom blade in standard rn what are you talking about Oh sure, it just took no less than the banning of 8 separate cards for that to be a reasonable thing
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Sampatrick posted:people play a ton of doom blade in standard rn what are you talking about
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also IIRC the closest thing to a pyroclasm effect in that format was bonfire of the damned (once whipflare rotated), so the value of a 2/2 that couldn't targeted but you needed to untap with was a lot higher than in a format where cards like flame sweep or kozilek's return are available e: actually there was rolling temblor but that card was slow and narrow enough that it only really saw play in burning vengeance decks i think?
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Yawgmoth posted:how are people playing a card last reprinted in ixalan in standard you know exactly what i mean in that im talking about a 2 mana removal spell that more or less doesn't care about text boxes
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TheKingofSprings posted:Oh sure, it just took no less than the banning of 8 separate cards for that to be a reasonable thing i mean, sure, dont disagree with you that std has been a dumpster fire for a long time and in fact is still quite miserable due to the strength of rg but thats kinda irrelevant to whether or not doom blade is a main deck playable card; it is.
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The Klowner posted:FIRE stands for [insert marketing bullshit that doesn't matter here] but what it actually means is "every card at rare or mythic cannot be printed with feel-bad text." Which means that all creatures have on-rate stats with upside, all negative effects only ever affect opponents, all positive effects only ever affect the controller, and feel-bad mechanics like land destruction don't get printed. The result is that modern day standard decks are linear solitaire value piles where each creature and permanent that hits the board must swing the game wildly in one direction or the other to be competitive. There are no interesting decks because there are no powerful-with-drawbacks cards worth building around. Decks are essentially built for you. no i would say that the whole idea behind fire is that cards shouldnt just be out and out bad, unplayable garbage. the hope is that you have more cards that are song of creation and less cards that are fires of invention. the problem is that every time they miss the mark, it ends up being format warping because, although answers are generally stronger now than they were in the truly heinous days of like 2014 until like 2019, threats are much more diverse than they were before (and this was especially true before the bannings).
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Sampatrick posted:you know exactly what i mean maybe one day you will learn the meaning of "a joke"
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ungulateman posted:also IIRC the closest thing to a pyroclasm effect in that format was bonfire of the damned (once whipflare rotated), so the value of a 2/2 that couldn't targeted but you needed to untap with was a lot higher than in a format where cards like flame sweep or kozilek's return are available Yeah, I think the closest we got in Ravnica 2 Block was Mizzium Mortars since they were pushing Overload as the sweeper mechanic. It's why I remember such strong reactions when Anger of the Gods got spoiled for Theros.
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ungulateman posted:also IIRC the closest thing to a pyroclasm effect in that format was bonfire of the damned (once whipflare rotated), so the value of a 2/2 that couldn't targeted but you needed to untap with was a lot higher than in a format where cards like flame sweep or kozilek's return are available geist also wasn't incredibly good in INN/RTR standard. it was mostly at its best as a sideboard card at that point as well as in the bant hexproof deck. the peak of geist play was in delver decks alongside runechanter's pike and vapor snag. geist in general was a pretty overrated card for a long time.
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Sampatrick posted:geist also wasn't incredibly good in INN/RTR standard. it was mostly at its best as a sideboard card at that point as well as in the bant hexproof deck. the peak of geist play was in delver decks alongside runechanter's pike and vapor snag. geist in general was a pretty overrated card for a long time. Geist into verdict. A classic!
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Sampatrick posted:geist also wasn't incredibly good in INN/RTR standard. it was mostly at its best as a sideboard card at that point as well as in the bant hexproof deck. the peak of geist play was in delver decks alongside runechanter's pike and vapor snag. geist in general was a pretty overrated card for a long time.
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That was a fun Standard, I miss the days of stopping play to explain to my opponent why they really didn't want to equip something to their Phantasmal Image and Phyrexian Obliterator was such a fun card after Innistrad came out with how heavily they were pushing the new Fight mechanic.
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Infinite Karma posted:This is completely accurate IMO. Delver would destroy Standard, but Geist is strong while still requiring backup to do its thing. And as a pure Baneslayer, it's probably safe as far as running away with formats. Delver wouldnt be particularly good in this standard. Delver being so strong was honestly a perfect storm of all the cards that were in that format.
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The bar for Delver is pretty much is Ponder in the format If the answer is yes then Delver is probably good
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Sampatrick posted:geist also wasn't incredibly good in INN/RTR standard. it was mostly at its best as a sideboard card at that point as well as in the bant hexproof deck. the peak of geist play was in delver decks alongside runechanter's pike and vapor snag. geist in general was a pretty overrated card for a long time. It was annoying because if you shocked yourself once it could just kill you in 3 turns but the real pieces of poo poo were resto angel and the thragtusk in every deck.
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Mat Cauthon posted:I would do some bad things to get Rancor reprinted. IMO it's one of those staples that should be in at least every other Core Set. A Questing Beast wearing a Rancor is not something I would be particularly crazy about seeing right now.
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hatred on gruul spellbreaker would be extremely funny to watch
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ShaneB posted:Yo. The Dive Down, somehow, hit episode 100 this week. To celebrate, we did a live stream of the recording on Twitch where we did mini-dives into 100 decks throughout Modern's history. quoting this for new page. good job talk show host! i sometimes listen to your show and it's great
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I'm glad. It's a great card that helps clean up a lot of bullshit.
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I can't wait for someone at Wizards to declare it a color pie break
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Bell_ posted:I'm glad. It's a great card that helps clean up a lot of bullshit.
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lol who plays Modern rn, this means nothing Oh, and it's Goldfish, so it means double-nothing. This is the actual Modern Meta in the last two weeks: https://www.mtgtop8.com/format?f=MO&meta=54 https://www.mtgtop8.com/topcards?f=MO&meta=54 Most played cards. It did pass Uro in Creatures, so congrats I guess. Swifty (Burn) and Ballista are still above it though. Katana Gomai fucked around with this message at 14:04 on Nov 21, 2020 |
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Not surprising if that’s true. According to that list, Skyclave hits all of the other creatures below it, some with little to no consequences.
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I’m happy Skyclave Apparition is good, but every good ETB creature they print further widens the divide between being on the play vs on the draw, which I consider bad for the game.
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Katana Gomai posted:lol who plays Modern rn, this means nothing me hail to the goblin king, baby  
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Skyclave Apparition is cool, I was kind of medium on it when it got spoiled because of no flying and the small rear end but I’m glad it’s doing well. I hope they continue to play with giving White access to powerful permanent removal with downsides that aren’t just the O-Stone effect.
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It being a ghost with the word “sky” in its name and not being a flying creature is totally bogus
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Bust Rodd posted:I’m happy Skyclave Apparition is good, but every good ETB creature they print further widens the divide between being on the play vs on the draw, which I consider bad for the game. This is a reasonable complaint and something I would also be aware of were i a wotc designer
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If you can reliably create WW its foolish not to have three in your board v also tokens, goblins, Monoblack aggro Shrecknet fucked around with this message at 15:40 on Nov 21, 2020 |
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ilmucche posted:would not have expected auriok champion on that list auriok champ shits on burn which is supposedly in vogue rn
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It’s an amazing SB card. Indefinitely blocking and gaining 4-6 health just obliterates a lot of decks. Back when Humans was really good I always had 3 in my board and I was always thrilled to draw it.
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Attestant posted:I can't wait for someone at Wizards to declare it a color pie break Makes tokens for the opponent, and not in enemy colors? Outrageous.
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Shrecknet posted:If you can reliably create WW its foolish not to have three in your board The Klowner posted:auriok champ shits on burn which is supposedly in vogue rn I play 4 maindeck in tokens, but I wasn't aware it was popping up elsewhere. I guess death's shadow is rising in the meta so it makes sense.
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Hey when I click "play" on arena what are my opponents like? I don't want to be smashed by people who have the 75 they want before I have my first 60
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If you go into the "play" queue and not the ranked queue it will try to match you against similar strength decks. So if you have a new account and do that you should only occasionally get destroyed by someone with a way better deck.
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