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jarofpiss posted:taintrunner is a trophy husband for some nyc millionaire woman lmfao no poo poo
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is kate aronoff even in the dsa
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am I even in the dsa?
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IM DAY DAY IRL posted:am I even in the dsa? maybe
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i'll have to check my spreadsheet
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upon further inspection the $1 that i paid to national so that i could have voting rights if/when i return to meetings is still valid so yeah, i'm a Card Carrying Socialist like taintrunner
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lumpentroll posted:is kate aronoff even in the dsa idk who she is
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jarofpiss posted:idk who she is some writer
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I guess a lot of people figure that twitter posts are official communication from the president of DSA.
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lmao he got me too, i havent been in the dsa in years, since i realized they're a careerist fundraising org and i wanted to do actual organizing (edit: in my city, at least) personally i love his gimmick of going hard at biden supporters as white supremacists and rape apologists - because its true - but laughing at loud at larping as a poor person online croup coughfield has issued a correction as of 20:50 on Nov 21, 2020 |
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Antifa Turkeesian posted:I guess a lot of people figure that twitter posts are official communication from the president of DSA. dunno what to expect from someone who started their career of posting in this stupid thread with 'wow the outraged twitter mobs are going to cancel righteous and good comrade danny fetonte'
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loving dying laughing at "i just want to eat, and make a living wage!" and then dropping like fifty bucks on avis
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taintrunner is just trying doing their part to inject some stimulus funds into jeffrey's forums while also giving formerly av-less posters like jar of piss a nice image next to their name. its called mutual aid sweaty
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glad that my $5 donation to the forums was preemptively double-matched by a wealthy benefactor looking to buy a little good PR for their niche political education endeavor
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I don’t even think I antagonized him that much. I wasn’t really trying to.
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yelling at/in defense of north star et al trying to wink-nudge endorse biden has been like 80% of the dsa forums posts for months, everyone itt has missed out on some real fun 
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No one in my chapter's leadership signed that. Just two random members. And one of them is a very solid union organizer who leads all kinds of campaigns, and I've never heard of the other person. Nathan Robinson is a member of my chapter, but he only joined very recently. He's more of a high-profile socialist than a DSA leader. Like, we're having a general meeting right now, and I don't see him in the participant list.
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We have local elections in two weeks with a big campaign against the city taking money from the public library to put it in an "economic development" slush fund and a reform DA candidate. So naturally, we're heavily debating whether we should do land acknowledgment statements at the beginning of meetings.
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PostNouveau posted:land acknowledgment statements ?
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It's something that seems in vogue right now. It's like "The history of this region goes back to [insert local tribes] and they were [insert whatever the local atrocity committed against the natives was], and we should all acknowledge that we're colonizers."
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the DSA did not endorse joe biden and in my experience those who have tried to mobilize people to campaign for him anyway are in a minority and have faced pretty sharp internal criticism. maybe that's just true in my specific organizing bubble but we were quite clear in the last convention that no one but bernie even stood a chance of getting our national endorsement, no matter how the dem primary went
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I mean either way at this point what’s done is done and if your going to cancel everyone that votes for a democrat you aren’t going to get anywhere.
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look as an actual poor person lmbao if you ever expected much besides awareness raising from the dsa. for a lot of reasons, some of them economic, this is far more an activist org than a mass movement, and therefore it's full of liberals and other flavors of white person. sorry if that shocks you but it's fairly obvious that a big tent org will be full of morons both intentional and unintentional when the only entry requirement is being polite at meetings and paying $5.
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also as a poor person I’m not sure your point. Raise awareness is functionally all politics outside getting elected
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CharlestheHammer posted:also as a poor person I’m not sure your point. yeah so who cares that a couple of liberal morons posted some stupid endorsing biden letter. that was my point.
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Larry Parrish posted:yeah so who cares that a couple of liberal morons posted some stupid endorsing biden letter. that was my point. oh I see yeah I agree. if you expect an org to be perfect you are going to fail
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CharlestheHammer posted:Raise awareness is functionally all politics outside getting elected 
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drat the thread's fun today, we got weird poo poo comin every which way
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I will just say as someone who goes on the DSA forums the last 6 months have basically been a bunch of Old People going "You gotta vote Biden to get rid of Trump" The Socialist Majority Caucus was also trying to find work arounds the "Bernie or Bust" resolution that was passed at convention mainly due to how much that caucus has leadership that is tied with progressive NGOs. https://www.tempestmag.org/2020/10/biden-pledge-spits-at-dsas-democracy/ Basically I agree with what Andy wrote in this article. As for my chapter this week has been long; I did something I never thought I would ever do, chair the general meeting; did most of the turnout with updating the website to make RSVPing easier, made the text campaigns, got the ball rolling on the Monthly Email Newsletter; had 130 folks RSVP and 80 showed up  (need to be better at time management). Going to have 2 t shirt designs ready soon with our new store that should be up soon. This one I hope doesn't get C&D'd. Finally got a Comms Coordinator after a year of searching so hopefully I can lighten the load on my back.https://twitter.com/AchillesF6/status/1328892387700191233/photo/1 Our committees are doing a lot of good; our abolition & anti-imperialism committee is teaming up with Elections and Pressure Campaigns Committee has launched a new campaign to Defund the Police in Allegheny County (for reference there are 130 Police Budgets in the county because almost every municipality gets them) I did some of the data collection of budgets and it's sobering seeing my hometown of 30,000 people is spending like 30% of it's budget on the cops. Or one where they 500,000$ when their budget is 1,300,000 and they are actually going over at 1,500,000 spending https://pghdsa.org/defundthepolice/ Wish we could get involved in more electoral campaigns, but what sucks is when the right wing of your chapter leaves to form UNITE PAC with the grifter electoral wonk at the helm of it, they kind of hold a grudge and make it their mission to blackball you from decent campaigns/candidates. The funniest part is when they talk about how toxic the chapter is and how they were purged when they can post freely on the chapter slack. It's very big Juan Guaido energy. Doesn't help that a lot of national people have axes to grind, especially folks in SMC because of how we "mistreated" our former co-chair when she made a scene at local convention when we approved restructuring leadership and abolishing the co-chairs position, calling her out for how she poorly conducted herself during the Antwon Rose Jr BLM protests, and ultimately when we had to send a chapter email to the entire membership that she and another member were expulsed from the chapter (the other member was for different reasons). You'd think something that happened nearly 2 years ago would have been something dead and buried, but nope still dealing with people writing articles on how bad the chapter is or that it is run by PMC people. Sorry this is a lot of text saying that the chapter is doing great despite struggles.
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https://twitter.com/J_muck/status/1113254095001755649?s=20 https://twitter.com/ChicagoCityDSA/status/1331299717465124866?s=20 https://twitter.com/KenzoShibata/status/1331316942079193090?s=20 So a politician can join DSA without being endorsed by DSA?
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Atrocious Joe posted:https://twitter.com/J_muck/status/1113254095001755649?s=20 It's extremely easy to join DSA. There's basically no barrier to entry.
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I've posted about this in other threads, but there were two DSA members running for that ward's seat. We endorsed one (long-term member, very active in the chapter), he lost, and in the runoff we endorsed the other one (basically a paper member), and he won (barely). His seat probably isn't safe for 2023, and he's moved towards the center to try to build a base with the local wealthy libs. e: https://twitter.com/ChicagoCityDSA/status/1331324635506413568
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Atrocious Joe posted:So a politician can join DSA without being endorsed by DSA? Yes? We pretty much just had this conversation. You can be a DSA member and do whatever you want. There's not some sort of background check you have to go through. We are having a similar issue, at a much smaller scale, in our chapter. Just because someone is a DSA member does not mean they are endorsed by DSA either locally or nationally.
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Larry Parrish posted:to be fair centralism is kind of the exact opposite of a big tent organization. so they kind of have it coming. That said there is a process to actually kick him out and apparently they are doing that in addition to the mere censure. So that's good.
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I prefer a medium tent to be honest; or if continuing the tent metaphors Big tent to get people in but there is a medium tent within which looks cooler and you can only get in if you are an anarchist and/or communist.Internet Explorer posted:Yes? We pretty much just had this conversation. You can be a DSA member and do whatever you want. There's not some sort of background check you have to go through.
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