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Oneiros posted:hoo boy people get really loving upset when they have to bag their own groceries This weirds me out because I've always felt more comfortable bagging my own groceries. If there is a dedicated bagger on my line I won't push him out of the way or anything, but I feel awkward standing there watching someone perform a menial task I could easily manage on my own. And I say this as a lazy, lazy person. I do understand the appeal of having someone else bag if there's a physical limitation or, poo poo if you're just tired from a long day. What I struggle with is the mind of someone who would get furious at the concept of having to do it themselves. That kind of petty power-trip seems completely alien to me.
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Nov 21, 2020 09:30
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Skippy McPants posted:If there is a dedicated bagger on my line I won't push him out of the way or anything Do those still exist?! I haven't seen a dedicated bagger working alongside the cashier in any store for at least 20 years.
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Nov 21, 2020 09:33
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Bloody Hedgehog posted:Do those still exist?! I haven't seen a dedicated bagger working alongside the cashier in any store for at least 20 years. my grocer has some but they serve multiple lanes (especially with reusable bags being allowed again but people having to self-bag if they bring them). i imagine budget places got rid of them long ago, tho.
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Nov 21, 2020 09:43
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Both the nearest grocery stores to me have some kind of 1:2 ratios of baggers to open lines. They kind of float around and speed up the situation when someone has a large order, continuing the bagging while the customer and cashier finish payment. Or that’s how it was before COVID. No idea what’s happening now. I haven’t set foot in those stores since March.
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Nov 21, 2020 09:46
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In my area, the 2:1 ratio is about right, pre-and-post COVID. Though even in the before times I'd try to go late a night when they're within an hour or two of closing, and it's often just 1:1 with the bagger doing other stuff around the store. The stores are still packed during the day, five or six checkers all with a line of people. The one time I made the mistake of going in the early afternoon I turned around and walked out; whatever I needed wasn't worth walking through that many people. It feels justified right now, but I do worry about how bad my social anxiety will be once the pandemic is over. Edit: and to be fair, the dedicated baggers are a must. Without them, the checkers have to do it all because not one customer in ten lifts a finger to help even when there's a line behind them.
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Nov 21, 2020 10:32
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Oneiros posted:my grocer has some but they serve multiple lanes (especially with reusable bags being allowed again but people having to self-bag if they bring them). i imagine budget places got rid of them long ago, tho. I'm sorry, what?
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Nov 21, 2020 11:09
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i get my groceries delivered goodbye
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Nov 21, 2020 11:10
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Biplane posted:I'm sorry, what? san francsico banned reusable shopping bags for a while due to the rona the massive increase in demand for paper bags meant a lot of places actually had to go back to plastic bags (i guess this was allowed somehow thanks to the rona too). the thinnest, shittiest plastic bags you can imagine. they were having to triple bag poo poo to avoid them breaking right there at the checkout counter Oneiros has issued a correction as of 11:13 on Nov 21, 2020 |
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Nov 21, 2020 11:10
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if you're looking to familiarize yourself with the phenomenon known as 'shrinkage' you don't want one of those little pissant regular size reusable grocery bags, you want the big ones from costco
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Nov 21, 2020 11:32
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SSJ_naruto_2003 posted:Here's a dystopia thing I've been thinking about. A retail worker at a store nearby me was laid off because they were putting in more self checkouts. This was going to leave him homeless. He held the managers and store manager hostage in the back for a while before shooting himself. bUt If we iNcReAsE tHe mIniMuM wAgE, pEoPlE wILl lOsE tHeIr JoBs!
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Nov 21, 2020 14:55
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Wheeee posted:if you're looking to familiarize yourself with the phenomenon known as 'shrinkage' you don't want one of those little pissant regular size reusable grocery bags, you want the big ones from costco What is the phenomenon known as shrinkage?
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Nov 21, 2020 15:40
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SSJ_naruto_2003 posted:Yeah but Walmart is literally expanding into every aspect of shopping, online, etc. Lots of people have no other option now. Walmart's growth is generally a good tracker of short term economic decline, so, nice. That said I'm not convinced this form of automation is that much of a winner in terms of labor costs. Cashiers are incredibly efficient, profit-wise. The benefits for the automated checkout are striking fear into your workers, tighter physical space (aka reduced land costs), and being attractive to socially anxious customers. Leon Sumbitches posted:What is the phenomenon known as shrinkage? Corporate speak for shoplifting.
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Nov 21, 2020 15:50
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Leon Sumbitches posted:What is the phenomenon known as shrinkage?
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Nov 21, 2020 16:10
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Leon Sumbitches posted:What is the phenomenon known as shrinkage? I just got out of the POOL, ok?!
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Nov 21, 2020 17:26
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Bloody Hedgehog posted:Do those still exist?! I haven't seen a dedicated bagger working alongside the cashier in any store for at least 20 years. I live in a small town and our store they have baggers who will walk the cart out and load it into your car for you. I always tell them "nah I got it" because jesus christ
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Nov 21, 2020 20:06
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Peanut President posted:I live in a small town and our store they have baggers who will walk the cart out and load it into your car for you. I always tell them "nah I got it" because jesus christ Scab
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Nov 21, 2020 20:30
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I used to spiral into panic attacks at the dilemma of letting my groceries get bagged by the virtuous worker thereby increasing demand for their labor or rolling up my sleeves because of my social conditioning to do any work whatsoever and desire to not be served by members of my class thereby becoming a class traitor that gets the wall. Fortunately a global virus situation arrived and destroyed everything and joe biden is president-elect, i am now very relaxed
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Nov 21, 2020 20:34
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gay_crimes posted:I used to spiral into panic attacks at the dilemma of letting my groceries get bagged by the virtuous worker thereby increasing demand for their labor or rolling up my sleeves because of my social conditioning to do any work whatsoever and desire to not be served by members of my class thereby becoming a class traitor that gets the wall. Fortunately a global virus situation arrived and destroyed everything and joe biden is president-elect, i am now very relaxed That’s partially the dilemma I have with full service gas in my state. It’s weird to have to get an attendant to do it but it’s nice to not have to get out of the car on a cold rainy night. Really it works out to artificially create jobs for folks who wouldn’t really fit in well elsewhere but they’re also breathing those fumes all day for $13/hour. The guy who works the gas station I tend to pick up cigarettes from got fired recently for drinking on the job, but he got a good two or three years in brown bagging it before anyone caught him. Not many other jobs where that kind of addiction wouldn’t get you let go real quick. Anyway it’s loving ridiculous that we have to do this bullshit make work crap so people can scrape by, but also given the state of the world getting rid of it would be problematic.
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Nov 21, 2020 21:48
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Leon Sumbitches posted:What is the phenomenon known as shrinkage? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldUZvxjKMGs
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Nov 21, 2020 21:56
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FacebookEmpathyMom posted:That’s partially the dilemma I have with full service gas in my state. It’s weird to have to get an attendant to do it but it’s nice to not have to get out of the car on a cold rainy night. Really it works out to artificially create jobs for folks who wouldn’t really fit in well elsewhere but they’re also breathing those fumes all day for $13/hour. The guy who works the gas station I tend to pick up cigarettes from got fired recently for drinking on the job, but he got a good two or three years in brown bagging it before anyone caught him. Not many other jobs where that kind of addiction wouldn’t get you let go real quick. Anyway it’s loving ridiculous that we have to do this bullshit make work crap so people can scrape by, but also given the state of the world getting rid of it would be problematic. unions help protect people in these situations more than anything. I'm not being facetious, having a union behind you is immensely helpful for addicts to figure out their lives.
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Nov 21, 2020 22:08
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Inceltown posted:Scab i mean that dude gets paid to stand around instead of cart my groceries out to the truck so if anything I'm helping him steal time from his boss or whatever
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Nov 21, 2020 22:15
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Peanut President posted:i mean that dude gets paid to stand around instead of cart my groceries out to the truck so if anything I'm helping him steal time from his boss or whatever their boss makes them sweep and clean the parking lot and collect carts and empty garbage cans when they're not delivering groceries. also: they're probably not allowed to take tips but offer them $5 anyway when you're out there
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Nov 21, 2020 22:23
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poo poo POST MALONE posted:unions help protect people in these situations more than anything. I'm not being facetious, having a union behind you is immensely helpful for addicts to figure out their lives. Oh for sure but I’m not even sure how you’d organize gas station attendants. Each location is so lightly staffed.
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Nov 21, 2020 22:30
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poo poo POST MALONE posted:their boss makes them sweep and clean the parking lot and collect carts and empty garbage cans when they're not delivering groceries. there is no outdoor cart corral, thats the reason the guy goes out with you, im basically saving the guy from having to go out in the rain in his mandatory uniform of t-shirt and slacks
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Nov 21, 2020 23:39
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https://twitter.com/taylorlorenz/status/1330532826798821376?s=21
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Nov 22, 2020 18:14
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I'm pretty sure here in the UK that poo poo would get you at least a very sternly worded letter, if not an arse kicking.. We take queueing very seriously!
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Nov 22, 2020 21:41
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Making poor people wait in line with a high probability of nearby covid infection. Cool cool man
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Nov 22, 2020 21:52
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Gods_Butthole posted:Making poor people wait in line with a high probability of nearby covid infection. Cool cool man but it's are freedumb! 
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Nov 22, 2020 22:12
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CVD-19r
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Nov 22, 2020 22:13
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silentsnack posted:but it's are freedumb! It's better than that, you get to be a job creator
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Nov 22, 2020 22:36
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For grocery stores, at least where I am, it seems that there are far more people doing the shopping for curbside than any other position in the store. So much so that I'd have to assume they're employing more people on the whole than they were prior to the pandemic. Usually there are more employees "shopping" than there are actual shoppers.
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Nov 22, 2020 22:50
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taqueso posted:It's better than that, you get to be a job creator Finally I get some goddamned respect in this hell hole
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Nov 22, 2020 23:22
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lobbyists pay homeless people to stand in line for them at congressional hearings and this is long standing normal practice lmao
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Nov 23, 2020 00:06
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I read about this years ago in Singapore where people recruit immigrant workers to line up for iPhones but lining up for covid tests is I agree, way more dystopia n
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Nov 23, 2020 01:54
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comedyblissoption posted:lobbyists pay homeless people to stand in line for them at congressional hearings and this is long standing normal practice lmao yeah but consider how high testing positivity rates are. there are guaranteed to be covid positive people in that line.
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Nov 23, 2020 01:57
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Sing Along posted:yeah but consider how high testing positivity rates are. there are guaranteed to be covid positive people in that line. When I went to get my Covid test in the Netherlands only around 50% of the people in line were even wearing face masks, and the person telling you to go inside for the test was wearing theirs without the nose covered 
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Nov 23, 2020 02:13
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when i was in grade 1 we had a big fight in the school yard over line cutting. the issues on the table were can you: 1) save a spot with your backpack 2) save a spot for another person both were deemed to be cutting by the schoolyard court of justice 
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Nov 23, 2020 02:17
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ekuNNN posted:When I went to get my Covid test in the Netherlands only around 50% of the people in line were even wearing face masks, and the person telling you to go inside for the test was wearing theirs without the nose covered It is for this reason that I’m not going to get tested if I don’t need medical intervention. If I didn’t have the virus, hanging around dozens of people who did would be a good way to get it. If I did have the virus, I wouldn’t want to put anyone else at risk to prove it as long as I’m in a condition to walk or drive to a testing site.
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Nov 23, 2020 02:31
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don't get tested unless you get symptoms, have a healthcare job, or need to be super on top of it for health reasons. plus it's pretty uncomfortable to do just for lols
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Nov 23, 2020 06:40
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T-man posted:don't get tested unless you get symptoms, have a healthcare job, or need to be super on top of it for health reasons. we have free drive-up/walk-up testing where you don't come within 6ft of anyone and everyone is in full PPE, outdoors, with the walk up areas tarped off and sanitized between everyone, and an oral swab test. when things were looking like they were calming down and protests were happening all the time I was getting tested every couple weeks.
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