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i say swears online posted:does this person find telesur acceptable? probably yes. I managed to break through and it's one hundred percent just not hearing non-western arguments
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dex_sda posted:you guys are cool, so full disclosure: im a lazy gently caress. But, I got a friend who's lefitst but very skeptical about Morales. He kinda bought the propaganda, so I wanna illustrate just how propaganda-ish the reaction of western media is. So, if you guys remember the articles that 'both sides' or outright 'fash sides' the thing from western mainstream media I'd like to have a short list. Similarly, for articles from mainstream LatAm media, which I know are much more reliable and show people are optimistic about Bolivia. I know spanish so that's fine. https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3890546&userid=179031&perpage=40&pagenumber=6
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 around page 60 of this very thread you can see the realtime reactions to the coup
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dex_sda posted:you guys are cool, so full disclosure: im a lazy gently caress. But, I got a friend who's lefitst but very skeptical about Morales. He kinda bought the propaganda, so I wanna illustrate just how propaganda-ish the reaction of western media is. So, if you guys remember the articles that 'both sides' or outright 'fash sides' the thing from western mainstream media I'd like to have a short list. Similarly, for articles from mainstream LatAm media, which I know are much more reliable and show people are optimistic about Bolivia. I know spanish so that's fine. Has your friend seen the MIT report about how the OAS claims were bullshit? It's not exactly what you're looking for, but I feel like it could be useful in getting him to realize Morales isn't the bad guy here.
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I read the "technical" report and it was bullshit even without being a sysadmin or something of that level of expertise edit: the OAS report specifically
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Nov 21, 2020 02:51
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There are definitely western sources that poo poo all over the oas "study"
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If your friend believes that Biden legitimately won the US presidential elections due to late reporting of mail-in ballots that traditionally lean democrat, they can believe Morales legitimately won the Bolivian presidential elections due to late reporting of indigenous rural areas which have overwhelmingly voted for the MAS-IPSP ever since it was created. Even the goddamn NYT shitted on the OAS report once it was safe for them to do so lmao.
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Whatever happened to that Swedish Guaido dude? Did he gently caress off after the CIA pulled his posting budget or what?
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Zedhe Khoja posted:Whatever happened to that Swedish Guaido dude? Did he gently caress off after the CIA pulled his posting budget or what?
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Nov 21, 2020 13:25
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Fnox or something who probably sticks to lp
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Fast Luck posted:https://twitter.com/kawsachunnews/status/1330145286426136580?s=21 I was super afraid of that happening lol thank goodness
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Jose posted:Fnox or something who probably sticks to lp i remember posting in D&D in high school and he once wrote like 3 paragraph long post @ me about why giving people healthcare isn't possible. the fact he's not even loving american lmao
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What caused the huge boom of evangelical christianity in Latin America? And why are countries like Mexico, and Bolivia seemingly less afflicted than say Central America? Also are rank and file evangelicals in rural areas right leaning or is there some sort of Evangelical equivalent to Liberation theology?
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US missionaries have specifically focused on Guatemala and Brazil but they're everywhere. turns out people are open to alternatives when they're desperate, the church is corrupt, and the government offers nothing. that's a reason why they haven't been as successful in Bolivia
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https://twitter.com/Sandra_Cuffe/status/1330247549953912832 anyone got a handle of what's going on there?
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https://twitter.com/AFP/status/1330305213341822977?s=20quote:Hundreds of Guatemalans partly burned the Congress building Saturday in a protest demanding the resignation of President Alejandro Giammattei, following the passage of a budget that has sparked outrage in the impoverished Central American nation. Yeah I just saw this story
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I might be mistaken, but I think Guatemala has been the most solid right-wing bastion in Latin America, at least as far as presidential elections go. Save for one or two exceptions, pretty much every (elected) president since the overthrow of Árbenz has been former military, evangelical fundie, or do-nothing centrist.
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Zedhe Khoja posted:Whatever happened to that Swedish Guaido dude? Did he gently caress off after the CIA pulled his posting budget or what? Maybe you mean Venezuelan Thor Halverssen, who lives in Norway? https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/rosiegray/is-this-the-face-of-a-new-global-human-rights-movement quote:Since the mid-2000s, Halvorssen has focused on his work with the Human Rights Foundation, which originally zeroed in on combating left-wing populist authoritarianism in Latin America and has since expanded its scope. The bulk of the activities, energy, and money, though, seems to go to the forum in Oslo, a city Halvorssen chose as his venue upon the recommendation of his uncle Olaf. It's the city of the Oslo Peace Accords, and it's where the Nobel Peace Prize is awarded. The Freedom Forum started small but has grown every year, and is now what one young staffer — Halvorssen has 11 and refers to them as colleagues instead of employees — described to me as the organization's Super Bowl.
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https://twitter.com/evoespueblo/status/1330889964087881730?s=21Evo Morales posted:Happy birthday, dear soul brother and fighting partner @NicolasMaduro . Those of us who fight for the liberation of the peoples know of your great solidarity and your revolutionary will, together with your people, who have won every battle imposed by the empire. Long life 
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looking at the biden appointments for foreign policy, i'd be sweating if i was a left-wing south american
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I mean realistically you should always be sweating as long as America exists
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I'm actually curious about what chilean (and non-chilean but paying attention) goons think about Jiles. My 2 cents (chilean btw): she's an outsider to the male-dominated circlejerking politician class, so she is getting poo poo thrown from everywhere, specially the  center-'left'. Like, just today, i saw 2 news 'articles', from otherwise decent sites (elmostrador and eldesconcierto) grasping at anything to put her on a bad light. She has few assistants which is apparently weird and bad?? you are actually supposed to have a bunch of people on your payroll doing your job for you so you can gently caress off and be on tv all the time i guess?? She is hard to negotiate with which i guess means she should just do whatever the hell Frente Amplio is doing? which is nothing, at all, ever (unless jumping on bandwagons counts, they are really good at doing that. 18/10 was all them obviously). Some old-school DC senators i.e. the ones that got in when all you needed to do was 'make some anti-pinochet noise, but not too much that you would be labelled a commie' refused to refer to her as a member of parliament. The more they poo poo on her, the more i like her basically. And yes, Trump comparions have been drawn because they are both outsiders with Twitter Presence. She is not, however, a scummy billionare with lovely worldviews so, i dunno. thanks for reading my blog post
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Nov 24, 2020 07:05
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I wish I could be the ambassador for drugs
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Nov 24, 2020 07:40
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Naruto is bad and therefore she is bad. If it were one piece however,
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nabo posted:I'm actually curious about what chilean (and non-chilean but paying attention) goons think about Jiles. there's this reply to the populism updates tweet that's hidden in the "see more replies" option https://twitter.com/crankymissmary/status/1330987464413093892
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I think the problem right now is everyone is focusing on her Naruto run, either as a positive or to poo poo n her. but o haven’t seen anyone mention her policies one way or another
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CharlestheHammer posted:I think the problem right now is everyone is focusing on her Naruto run, either as a positive or to poo poo n her. like even if she's chile's answer to fidel castro it doesn't matter because if she wins the election it won't be a victory for socialism or the working class - it will be a victory for running around like an idiot there's no substance there - no mandate. if you're scrying her post history trying to figure out if she's good then you're falling into the trap of great woman theory
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Well thats what shes known for in America. She might be more known for positions in Chile?
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MSDOS KAPITAL posted:that's why it sucks see this is what I mean I’m interested in her policies not stupid pearl clutching about purity you can like or think it ruins the purity of electoral politics, I don’t care
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Zedhe Khoja posted:Well thats what shes known for in America. She might be more known for positions in Chile? CharlestheHammer posted:see this is what I mean I’m interested in her policies not stupid pearl clutching about purity
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If the way to take steps towards communism or socialism involves dabbing and anime poses then so be it
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MSDOS KAPITAL posted:Well if she is, it's not what got her to second place. see what are her policies tho, in the end if you win that’s all that matters. I get whining online is fun but at least make it about something that matters
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Man you guys are going to hate when zoomers start getting elected to office in the US
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Neurolimal posted:If the way to take steps towards communism or socialism involves dabbing and anime poses then so be it But this isn't materialist politics. This is performative. This is without substance (and again, that is not to say that she is without substance - just that whatever has propelled her to the top, is). And I hope I don't have to remind you what sort of politicians thrive in an environment sucked dry of any actual meaning.
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CharlestheHammer posted:see what are her policies tho, in the end if you win that’s all that matters. Let me put it another way: if a loving Naruto run can propel her to the top, then something else just as asinine can sink her career. Even if elected, she will not be able to govern with the kind of mandate you think she will, because everyone even remotely familiar with how power actually works, will know her support is skin deep. Reactionaries will work on a way to make her look bad, and they will eventually find a way, and when they do find a way, her popular support will vanish, because it was all smoke and mirrors in the first place. Cup Runneth Over posted:Man you guys are going to hate when zoomers start getting elected to office in the US
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