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Mr. Nice! posted:From the conversation during the hearing, he didn't say that. She looked up his phone number on whitepages.com or something similar and then looked up that he worked at K&E. Aww that sucks for him then.
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evilweasel posted:Aww that sucks for him then. If it makes you feel any better, the judge didn't say fire him. He said it wasn't sanctionable conduct and a managing partner should go have a talk with him if they haven't already about not doing that poo poo again. It seemed like the judge was giving him a pass.
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sullat posted:It wasn't bad for a pro se soc cit trying to defend himself, I'll grant him that. I got strong pro se vibes off some of that. Showing up with new "evidence" that you haven't shared, interrupting the judge, knowing nothing about the legal issues but ranting angrily about how you've been wronged. It could be many of my past cases. The difference is my cases were for peanuts and not national news. Surreal.
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eviltastic posted:Can't get this Oglaf strip out of my mind after all that.
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Rudy's entire bit was performing his Election Fraud Greatest Hits for an audience of one during his opening comments for long enough to be sure Trump had lost interest in listening and changed back to the gorilla channel, whereafter Rudy floundered for the remainder of the proceedings, meandering from general position to general position in reaction to his limited intuition that the questions he was being asked indicated a fundamental problem for his case.
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blarzgh posted:Rudy's entire bit was performing his Election Fraud Greatest Hits for an audience of one during his opening comments for long enough to be sure Trump had lost interest in listening and changed back to the gorilla channel, whereafter Rudy floundered for the remainder of the proceedings, meandering from general position to general position in reaction to his limited intuition that the questions he was being asked indicated a fundamental problem for his case. Lol just remembering at the end that the judge was trying to make an appeal-proof record on a timeline for the defense to respond to the altered complaint and Rudy was like, "Can't you just take it as is?" He couldn't even read between the lines that the judge was low-key acknowledging to the defense that the argument was nonsense. It was literally the judge equivalent of the judge and defense going, "This guy, am I right?" to each other. Also lost in all this was how poorly the family law attorney repping Trump did.
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Mr. Nice! posted:If it makes you feel any better, the judge didn't say fire him. He said it wasn't sanctionable conduct and a managing partner should go have a talk with him if they haven't already about not doing that poo poo again. It seemed like the judge was giving him a pass. the judge didn't say fire him, but the judge said reprimand him and if you're a junior K&E attorney that reprimand from a federal judge that made national news in the legal community is going to come in a "no bonus for you, find a new job" note
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Eh, at least he has a good story on why he didn't make it there. Worse ways to go than telling a Trump lawyer to gently caress themselves.
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Haha I forgot about the gorilla channel
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The best people https://twitter.com/nycsouthpaw/status/1329200499652956160?s=20 https://twitter.com/nycsouthpaw/status/1329202240813457411?s=20
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Phil Moscowitz posted:It’s US Marshals not marshalls Still, it’s very on brand for the Trump legal team to take an unnecessary L due to their own incompetence.
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Time for a big photoshoot in front of the US Marshalls Service (the return desk at the discount department store).
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GamingHyena posted:Still, it’s very on brand for the Trump legal team to take an unnecessary L due to their own incompetence. 
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Vox Nihili posted:Time for a big photoshoot in front of the US Marshalls Service (the return desk at the discount department store). GamingHyena posted:Still, it’s very on brand for the Trump legal team to take an unnecessary L due to their own incompetence. The Bash Brothers over here
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Can I get an invite to the law discord, and also how do you guys handle invites to people not Platinum and can't receive PMs adrenal #3563
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i fly airplanes posted:Can I get an invite to the law discord, and also how do you guys handle invites to people not Platinum and can't receive PMs Sorry,
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Discendo Vox posted:Sorry, ahem I was lawgoon vip on irc
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I'm bored of accounting. I'm technically a lawyer but haven't practiced in like 10 years and even when I did practice it was like, lmao shitlaw stuff. Is it possible to return to legal practice after so long away? I'm not even sure I want to but I am just so uninterested in what I'm doing right now, and if I'm like "OK what comes next" I should at least take a cursory glance at law since I have the debt and the degree.
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You'd have to hang a shingle or go to a non-lawyer profession where having a jd is a pay boost like banking or govt Edit: oh hey this isn't the accounting thread
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Nonexistence posted:You'd have to hang a shingle or go to a non-lawyer profession where having a jd is a pay boost like banking or govt Yeah, that's what I was thinking. No firm is going to be like "hey a 40 year old who took the bar in Obama's first term, let's hire him!" I dunno unless there are some brain drain states that can't staff public defenders. But I probably don't want to live in one of those states.
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Hellblazer187 posted:even when I did practice it was like, lmao shitlaw stuff. What is this new legal specialty of "shitlaw" and how well does it pay?
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TheWordOfTheDayIs posted:What is this new legal specialty of "shitlaw" and how well does it pay? That's what we used to call personal injury or really low dollar family law stuff. At least I think that was slang used ITT or at least in very online spaces for lawyers circa 2009. Maybe my brain invented memories of this slang and it didn't really exist. It's pretty apt tho. To answer your question about pay, my first job out of law school paid $29k with no benefits.
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Nonexistence posted:You'd have to hang a shingle or go to a non-lawyer profession where having a jd is a pay boost like banking or govt Or find a solo attorney whose business is taking off faster than they can manage and they don't relish the thought of hiring a very young person who went straight to law school out of college. I am finishing law school as an old person and found such a situation. You could also consider forensic accounting.
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I pay forensic accountants big dollars to figure out easy poo poo like balances of 401(k) on date of divorce.
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GrandmaParty posted:I pay forensic accountants big dollars to figure out easy poo poo like balances of 401(k) on date of divorce. This sounds good. This sounds very good. Big dollars and easy poo poo are like, the two things I want out of life.
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My wife is a forensic accountant and can confirm dope practice area and probably easier to transition into from your current work but kind of niche so you may be hunting a while
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Hellblazer187 posted:This sounds good. This sounds very good. Big dollars and easy poo poo are like, the two things I want out of life. Do poo poo tier family law and make it known around the community that you know this poo poo and you should be ok.
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i fly airplanes posted:ahem I was lawgoon vip on irc What the gently caress is an irc? You just made that up.
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Hellblazer187 posted:This sounds good. This sounds very good. Big dollars and easy poo poo are like, the two things I want out of life. You may have to duel other experts in your reports and testimony, which won't always be easy, but you get to charge tens of dollars for that too.
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Honestly the hardest part of forensic accounting is probably dealing with rebutting other experts and them doing the same to you, and getting cross-examined by lawyers, so being able to credibly pitch that you get the trial strategy aspect of it is a big plus.
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Hellblazer187 posted:This sounds good. This sounds very good. Big dollars and easy poo poo are like, the two things I want out of life. You could try specialty prosecution. Medicaid fraud is state level, very accounting based, and an easy gig. DHHS AUSA or any of the OIG federal guys who do a lot with money might work.
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Thank you for the input everyone. I'll be looking into these options. Probably I'll just become a math teacher or a drug dealer instead though.
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Hellblazer187 posted:Thank you for the input everyone. I'll be looking into these options. Probably I'll just become a math teacher or a drug dealer instead though. Each is better for society than practicing law.
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Hellblazer187 posted:Thank you for the input everyone. I'll be looking into these options. Probably I'll just become a math teacher or a drug dealer instead though. Do both. Those are complimentary professions.
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Nice piece of fish posted:What the gently caress is an irc? You just made that up. thanks for making me feel old
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