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Red Oktober
May 24, 2006

wiggly eyes!



Wolfsheim posted:

The parkour opening is also from CR!



It seemed like around that time every single action film needed to have a parkour scene in it somewhere.

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lurker2006
Jul 30, 2019
You'd think if it was going to primarily be a stealth game somewhat similar to hitman they could get that talent inhouse. The best hire would probably be some nameless former konami dev that worked on MGSV.

nexus6
Sep 2, 2011

If only you could see what I've seen with your eyes
My favorite part of QoS was the whole casino sequence.

Wolfsheim
Dec 23, 2003

"Ah," Ratz had said, at last, "the artiste."

nexus6 posted:

My favorite part of QoS was the whole casino sequence.

My favorite bit was the ending where Roger Moore turns to the camera and says "I thought Christmas only comes once a year" and winks

Brazilianpeanutwar
Aug 27, 2015

Spent my walletfull, on a jpeg, desolate, will croberts make a whale of me yet?
I have a question,will Hitman 3 be a standalone game or is it a continuation like Hitman 2016 to 2018?

Just wondering about save transfers and stuff.

Hedgehog Pie
May 19, 2012

Total fuckin' silence.

Wolfsheim posted:

"I thought Christmas only comes once a year"

I still think that this is the single worst/best Bond one-liner ever. 47 has some work to do if he wants to graduate beyond "Try these, they're... to die for".

Super No Vacancy
Jul 26, 2012

its a good line

Arist
Feb 13, 2012

who, me?


Brazilianpeanutwar posted:

I have a question,will Hitman 3 be a standalone game or is it a continuation like Hitman 2016 to 2018?

Just wondering about save transfers and stuff.

It's going to work the same way as 2 did, apparently. You will be able to transfer your save into it.

Brazilianpeanutwar
Aug 27, 2015

Spent my walletfull, on a jpeg, desolate, will croberts make a whale of me yet?

Arist posted:

It's going to work the same way as 2 did, apparently. You will be able to transfer your save into it.

Sweeeet,thanks.

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.

Strategic Tea posted:

Huh right you are, it's in CR. Well, parkour opening~ so there!

lmao

Pilchenstein
May 17, 2012

So your plan is for half of us to die?

Hot Rope Guy
The car chase at the start of QoS ending with him taking Mr White out of the boot is one of the all time great Bond moments tbh

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

Wolfsheim posted:

The parkour opening is also from CR!

QoS has the opening that's a car chase filmed with such bad shakycam that it seems like they just threw the camera down a nearby stairwell

From memory I think part of the reason that chase is so confusingly edited is because he starts being chased by more cars than he destroys by the time he reaches the finish, and they realized too late and had to edit the whole thing to hide the extra car?

That movie isn't great but it's way better than it has any right to be given it was apparently a cursed production.

BigHandsVince
Mar 30, 2007
Mamma Mia, my hands are huge!

I got hitman 2, and it allows you to play hitman 1 levels in it, so I started from the beginning.

Weird stuff keeps happening, for instance in the boat training level, I killed the white suited guy that meets the target and took his outfit. Then broke into the boat via the gate. I hid in a cupboard and the same character (white suit guy) walked right past me so I took him out again.

Similar thing happened in Morocco where I took out one of the painters and took his disguise, then he had reappeared with an Identical character model to me by the time we reached the school. I believe it happened on another occasion too.

Was it always this janky? I haven't noticed any similar behaviour in the first Hitman 2 level, just the imported ones so far.

Brazilianpeanutwar
Aug 27, 2015

Spent my walletfull, on a jpeg, desolate, will croberts make a whale of me yet?
Can’t say that’s happened to me(140 hours + playtime)

Hedgehog Pie
May 19, 2012

Total fuckin' silence.
I've also played the 2016 levels in Hitman 2 a whole bunch (PS4) and have never seen anything that crazy.

BigHandsVince
Mar 30, 2007
Mamma Mia, my hands are huge!

I will try and get video of it happening. It's like the game realises important character x is dead and resets them so the story doesn't break or something. It's giving me extreme pre -2016 hitman jank vibes.

Mierenneuker
Apr 28, 2010


We're all going to experience changes in our life but only the best of us will qualify for front row seats.

Hedgehog Pie posted:

I've also played the 2016 levels in Hitman 2 a whole bunch (PS4) and have never seen anything that crazy.

I have, but it involves knocking someone out, taking their disguise, having their body be found by others and that person eventually running to a closet to recover their outfit.

That usually takes a couple minutes though. And of course both not killing the person and not hiding the body.

Hedgehog Pie
May 19, 2012

Total fuckin' silence.

Mierenneuker posted:

I have, but it involves knocking someone out, taking their disguise, having their body be found by others and that person eventually running to a closet to recover their outfit.

That usually takes a couple minutes though. And of course both not killing the person and not hiding the body.

I can definitely see this sort of thing happening, it happened all the time in Blood Money.

EDIT: the most common bugs I've seen in the new games are prompts simply not appearing for certain actions/items. Frustrating, but usually reloading a save fixes it.

Elendil004
Mar 22, 2003

The prognosis
is not good.


Skyfall might not be the perfect bond but it's probably the most beautiful.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

Elendil004 posted:

Skyfall might not be the perfect bond but it's probably the most beautiful.

This Roger Deakins fellow might have a future!

I love Skyfall, sure the bad guy suffers a bit from Dark Knight Joker-level "EVERYTHING WAS HIS PLAN!" stuff, but they put together an incredible crew and made a beautiful film. I have no idea what the gently caress happened with Spectre.

Nakar
Sep 2, 2002

Ultima Ratio Regum
So a hacker has found some way, via dark sorcery, to reconstitute Elusive Target maps as contracts. If you check the Trending tab on PC, you'll be able to find The Undying, The Deceivers, The Prince, and The Stowaway. They play exactly like the ETs (restricted starts, Diana dialogue, altered layouts and NPCs, etc.), except that the targets are highlighted in red like normal for Contracts Mode.

Pretty cool.

Pilchenstein
May 17, 2012

So your plan is for half of us to die?

Hot Rope Guy
That's pretty sweet lol

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

Goddammit I would love to gently caress about again in those levels without having to worry about loving things up, but I also value the amount of HD space I cleared when I finally uninstalled Hitman 2.

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.

Nakar posted:

So a hacker has found some way, via dark sorcery, to reconstitute Elusive Target maps as contracts. If you check the Trending tab on PC, you'll be able to find The Undying, The Deceivers, The Prince, and The Stowaway. They play exactly like the ETs (restricted starts, Diana dialogue, altered layouts and NPCs, etc.), except that the targets are highlighted in red like normal for Contracts Mode.

Pretty cool.

IO should really loving do this themselves.

Like I cannot imagine why they don't make it so you can't just retry them. They could remove the ability to get rewards after failure if they wanted to.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

Yeah, if they really want the "you only get one chance thing" then just make it that your first attempt is your only scored attempt (with the same ability to exit out before meeting any of the objectives as currently exists) but let you replay it over and over again afterwards just for fun and to try out a bunch of different things.

Pilchenstein
May 17, 2012

So your plan is for half of us to die?

Hot Rope Guy
I think they recognise that the overwhelming majority of Hitman players do not give a gently caress about the score you get at the end of a level and so rely on FOMO to drive sales. They should totally just make them replayable in 3 though.

Nakar
Sep 2, 2002

Ultima Ratio Regum

Zaphod42 posted:

IO should really loving do this themselves.

Like I cannot imagine why they don't make it so you can't just retry them. They could remove the ability to get rewards after failure if they wanted to.
This is even more interesting than that: These versions of the maps are substantively different from the versions as normal. The Deceivers has different layouts and trespassing areas in the lawyer office (in addition to all the new guards) and interactive objects on the congressman's route. The Prince features the graveyard gate being closed and different trespassing and outfit restrictions in the sewers and church. The Undying has unique items and mission stories, even!

And all of these function in Contracts Mode. That means they could totally make variant maps and Elusive Targets available for contract creation. If a hacker can register The Prince as a contract, then there's no reason it couldn't be set up such that different NPCs could be selected as targets on that particular map variation instead. There is no technical limitation on this; it is clear that, as long as the map variant can be loaded in some capacity, contracts function as normal. Imagine how much variety we could have if these sorts of things could be selected! Hell, throw in a time of day adjuster too, it's clear there's a dynamic lighting system since we have five different versions of Sapienza.

Pilchenstein
May 17, 2012

So your plan is for half of us to die?

Hot Rope Guy
It's nice to see hackers do something useful with the game for a change instead of just recording impossible level times :v:

Wolfsheim
Dec 23, 2003

"Ah," Ratz had said, at last, "the artiste."
Maybe one of the draws of the Hitman 3: Ultimate Assassin Legendary Full-On Edition will be non-hacked repayable versions of the former ETs? I mean I'm buying it anyway eventually but still, would be neat!

where the red fern gropes
Aug 24, 2011


the hacker goes by the moniker "Kevin Rudd" and is active in the contract/modding scene

he has a number of other contracts on escalation versions of maps, as well as patient zero and tutorial levels

Nakar
Sep 2, 2002

Ultima Ratio Regum
The Undying Restriction Run: Suit Only + No Loadout + No Knockouts

where the red fern gropes posted:

the hacker goes by the moniker "Kevin Rudd" and is active in the contract/modding scene

he has a number of other contracts on escalation versions of maps, as well as patient zero and tutorial levels
I'm not friended with him on Steam I don't think, you got any links?

Aoi
Sep 12, 2017

Perpetually a Pain.
I've been playing suit-only, no loadout, no helpful UI stuff or HUD on screen (so no dots above enforcers' heads, no instinct, no no 'being alerted' arrows, no map, etc) for a few months now.

Not because I'm great at the game and trying to show off, because, well, it's a single player game. But because it's fun, in its own way.

Sometimes, if I just want to gently caress around, though, I do turn on one or two elements. You do still get the audio 'hiisssssss' of enforcers beginning to spot you, too, and the map is still available in the map screen. No way to turn off interaction cues that I've found, too.

Dabir
Nov 10, 2012

That's understandable, I played Assassin's Creed 1 that way. The only thing you really need the UI for in AC1 is your throwing knives and you can actually see them strapped to Altair if you know where to look. It's neat to just wander around and get immersed in medieval Jerusalem, such as it is.

where the red fern gropes
Aug 24, 2011


Nakar posted:

The Undying Restriction Run: Suit Only + No Loadout + No Knockouts

I'm not friended with him on Steam I don't think, you got any links?

https://www.hitmanforum.com/t/hitman-2-contracts-from-hmf-members/26307/4243

should be a link to his posts in the hitmanforum contracts thread, around the correct time i think? his 378th post in that thread, if the link doesn't work

repiv
Aug 13, 2009

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIrNz7v4xrc

Dabir
Nov 10, 2012

Sounds like elusives are coming back then.

ZearothK
Aug 25, 2008

I've lost twice, I've failed twice and I've gotten two dishonorable mentions within 7 weeks. But I keep coming back. I am The Trooper!

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2021


Are saves/stats locked to your IO account or the Steam one? Just wondering since I finally got around to playing the Legacy levels in the 2 engine and it just dawned on me that Epic might have Season 2 as a giveaway when 3 is released next month, and I'd like to keep my progress.

Zaffy
Sep 15, 2003


ZearothK posted:

Are saves/stats locked to your IO account or the Steam one? Just wondering since I finally got around to playing the Legacy levels in the 2 engine and it just dawned on me that Epic might have Season 2 as a giveaway when 3 is released next month, and I'd like to keep my progress.

Go to: https://account.ioi.dk/ and link both your epic and steam accounts. You probably created an account when you played Hitman 1 on steam, if you 're not sure, check in game under options and IOI account.

They've said that stuff should migrate from steam to epic, but I'm not sure about details of that.

ZearothK
Aug 25, 2008

I've lost twice, I've failed twice and I've gotten two dishonorable mentions within 7 weeks. But I keep coming back. I am The Trooper!

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2021


Zaffy posted:

Go to: https://account.ioi.dk/ and link both your epic and steam accounts. You probably created an account when you played Hitman 1 on steam, if you 're not sure, check in game under options and IOI account.

They've said that stuff should migrate from steam to epic, but I'm not sure about details of that.

Thanks! Yeah, it was already linked to Steam by default, but I hadn't done it for Epic.

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Hedgehog Pie
May 19, 2012

Total fuckin' silence.
Some of these Sgail challenges though.

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